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| [url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id=6158&type=1Faz out, Tuson in[/url
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| Same 17 as last week for me.
I just wonder whether Hock playing in last night's 9's means Tuson will get a recall. Or it may just be that they want to give Hock as much game time as possible.
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| what's the deal with Farrell? is he just out of favour with Maguire right now?
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Same 17 as last week for me.
I just wonder whether Hock playing in last night's 9's means Tuson will get a recall. Or it may just be that they want to give Hock as much game time as possible.'"
Given the way he was blowing at the end of the game on Saturday I reckon he'll be kept back for Cas. I'd imagine essentially three games in 7 days is too much of a risk.
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"what's the deal with Farrell? is he just out of favour with Maguire right now?'"
Not hurting people enough in the tackle I am hearing.
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| Farrell will be back sooner rather than later im sure of that, but he must have done something to be being kept out of the team.
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| Same team as last week Goulding and Tuson to miss out. Hock should continue to play to build his match fitness up.
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| Quote ="pie eater and proud of it"Not hurting people enough in the tackle I am hearing.'"
And yet Tuson is?
Liam Farrell is a machine and a far, far, far better player than Chris Tuson IMO.
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| Quote ="cadoo"And yet Tuson is?
Liam Farrell is a machine and a far, far, far better player than Chris Tuson IMO.'"
Spot on. A better prospect than any other of our backrowers were at his age.
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| Would Farrell have played anyway? i don't think so. Hock to keep his place.
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| Same as Friday Tuson to miss out Leeds Hock to miss out Cas
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| What people must realise is that with the use of the GPS system at Wigan now data is readily available to the Wigan coaching staff regarding distance run, speed of collision and tackle impact. It's no longer just a matter of how many tackles or how many runs etc there is a lot more science to it nowadays.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"What people must realise is that with the use of the GPS system at Wigan now data is readily available to the Wigan coaching staff regarding distance run, speed of collision and tackle impact. It's no longer just a matter of how many tackles or how many runs etc there is a lot more science to it nowadays.'"
Thats fair enough and it must be handy but sometimes I think you can make calls with your own eyes. IMO Farrell has comfortably outperformed Tuson in games this year and no amount of computer data could convince me otherwise.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Thats fair enough and it must be handy but sometimes I think you can make calls with your own eyes. IMO Farrell has comfortably outperformed Tuson in games this year and no amount of computer data could convince me otherwise.'"
i pretty much agree with what you said, so i went to the opta stats just for a reference :
based on 10 games for CT and 13 for LF, the key points are
Games - 10 v 13
Tries - 0 v 2
Meters - 378 v 905
carries - 63 v 134
tackles - 197 v 423
marker tackles - 39 v 85
missed tackles - 11 v 14
offloads - 2 v 2
breaks - 0 v 5
pens - 4 v 8
errors - 8 v 4
so faz is miles ahead on all stats bar offloads, and well ahead in mtrs/carry, tackle success and errors
there must be some other reason why he is being rested, because i cant see it in eiuther the stats or when watching games
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| Quote ="ShortArse"
there must be some other reason why he is being rested, because i cant see it in eiuther the stats or when watching games'"
peapoi has alluded to it above.
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| Why do we see this as anything sinister?... We are blessed with SR's, and they are being rotated. Keeps players fresh and on their toes... For me, its to be applauded.
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| Quote ="cadoo"And yet Tuson is?
Liam Farrell is a machine and a far, far, far better player than Chris Tuson IMO.'"
Dont shoot the messenger pal
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"peapoi has alluded to it above.'"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"peapoi has alluded to it above.'"
I can see something in that. When Faz tackles he does it all with great technique and the minimum fuss. He isn't the sort of person to rush attackers and throw the shoulder at them but he hardly ever misses and the attacker rarely makes any ground at all.
He's all arms and uses hardly any body in the tackle but he gets the job done.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I can see something in that. When Faz tackles he does it all with great technique and the minimum fuss. He isn't the sort of person to rush attackers and throw the shoulder at them but he hardly ever misses and the attacker rarely makes any ground at all.
He's all arms and uses hardly any body in the tackle but he gets the job done.'"
perhaps its a case of H being back to be the machine, so using the bench for a different style player ?
fwiw i would play hock instead of tuson.
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| I think what Madge is doing with Faz is extremely clever. He is keeping Faz on his toes, dying to get on the scene. I bet any money as soon as the Wire semi comes along (same time as the business end of the season) Faz will be straight back in like a caged dog with a point to prove.
He was doing a similar thing with Mossop last year untill he got injured. Hopefully we will get to reap the benefits of it this year.
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| Ive actually commented on that to my mate that he seems to make the tackle but hes the only one that doesnt offer "big hits" but at the end of the day he is way ahead of Tuson in practically every facet of his game and it isnt like Tuson offers "big hits" is it?
Ah well we will see what happens ey I just hope he hasnt done anything silly and its just rotation.
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| I reckon we'll see the the same 17 tomorrow as last week and Hock rested against Cas with either Faz or Tuson coming in
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| Same 17 as last week allows possibility of bringing farrell back in to rest hoffman or o'loughlin for the quins game and get everyone fresh for the cup game
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| Quote ="Sihill88"Would Farrell have played anyway? i don't think so. Hock to keep his place.'"
He needs the match practice to get up to speed.
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