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| bring shaun edwards back to our game as national coach
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| wouldn't want him, would be crap, IMo we need a current NRL coach who knows all the up to date training methods
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| It's the quality PLAYERS we need!
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| Can Edwards play please?
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"wouldn't want him, would be crap, IMo we need a current NRL coach who knows all the up to date training methods'"
We need to implement it at club level, there's sod all the international coach can do in a few training sessions a year.
We're behind the NRL at club level massively, their play has moved on and the flat line attack you see over here is long gone in the NRL. The players go into the Aussie and Kiwi sqauds already well drilled. All the coach has to do is pick the right team and tweak a few tactics. The overall style of play is already in place, and not cocahed into them prior to running out with their national shirts on.
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| Quote ="flyingkelvin"It's the quality PLAYERS we need!'"
that as well
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| Quote ="ChrisA"We need to implement it at club level, there's sod all the international coach can do in a few training sessions a year.
We're behind the NRL at club level massively, their play has moved on and the flat line attack you see over here is long gone in the NRL. The players go into the Aussie and Kiwi sqauds already well drilled. All the coach has to do is pick the right team and tweak a few tactics. The overall style of play is already in place, and not cocahed into them prior to running out with their national shirts on.'"
But surely a coach who has come from the NRL would be better at getting us prepared for their style of play rather than a coach from over here
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| Quote ="flyingkelvin"It's the quality PLAYERS we need!'" CORRECT
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"wouldn't want him, would be crap, IMo we need a current NRL coach who knows all the up to date training methods'"
Totally disagree. If after a full domestic season (not to mention their career as a player) the players need skills coaching then we have no chance.
An international coach should bring with him a massive amount of man management and the ability to gel players as a unit in a very short space of time.
Tactical coaching is a must, but the abilty to create a team spirt is more important IMO.
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| Put MM in charge anyone?
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"But surely a coach who has come from the NRL would be better at getting us prepared for their style of play rather than a coach from over here'"
Thats the last thing we need in-charge of England another Aussie. What we need is a Full time English coach someone who has the passion to beat the Aussies.
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| Dear Shaun,
Can you please rescind your heartily recompensed WRU contract, for a meagre salary as England RL coach?
Regards
Richard Lewis
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"Put MM in charge anyone?'"
No chance we need him full time at Wigan
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Thats the last thing we need in-charge of England another Aussie. What we need is a Full time English coach someone who has the passion to beat the Aussies.'"
English coaches are so far behind in modern coaching techniques it is a joke, or do you not watch the mediocre flat pass crap that is served up every week in SL, maybe add a passionate assistant coach to an up to date Aussie coach much like what we now have at Wigan
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| Quote ="rochdale warrior"No chance we need him full time at Wigan
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Ah but he can work miracles didn't you know ?
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"icon_lol.gif
English coaches are so far behind in modern coaching techniques it is a joke, or do you not watch the mediocre flat pass crap that is served up every week in SL, maybe add a passionate assistant coach to an up to date Aussie coach much like what we now have at Wigan'"
You cannot change allegiances that easy if your Australian. Maybe have on as an adviser but not as coach i think Smith is proving this.
By the way i have been to all the England games of this series including the warm up game. I also go to at least 1 game a week during the season so yes i do see it but my point still stands.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"You cannot change allegiances that easy if your Australian. Maybe have on as an adviser but not as coach i think Smith is proving this.
By the way i have been to all the England games of this series including the warm up game. I also go to at least 1 game a week during the season so yes i do see it but my point still stands.'"
but to be fair Big Nose has been over here long enough to gain British citizenship, what i'm saying is bring a coach directly over from Oz, somebody that is out of contract, give him 2/3 years then bring another one in, either that or line up a British coach and send him down under for a year or so to acquaint himself with the way they do things before bringing him back
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| Quote ="eric smith"bring shaun edwards back to our game as national coach'"
Unless Shaun Edwards can find us an English Greg Inglis , Israel Folau and Billy Slater he wouldnt be able to do much
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Unless Shaun Edwards can find us an English Greg Inglis , Israel Folau and Billy Slater he wouldnt be able to do much'"
Spot on there! I do believe we have the best pack in the competition but the backs with the exception of Tomkins and Eastmond is very ordinary to say the least.
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| Thinking about it Edwards would be perfect for the England RL job as it would suit both parties to the ground.
Edwards wants to stay down in the London area for his son. The international job would allow him this option as he doesn’t have to be based or stuck in one location as he would be if he took a club role.
He’s been out of the game for a while so taking the England job would be a very good way to come back into RL as like another poster mentioned earlier it’s not as technical coaching wise as a day to day club coach role is.
An international coach probably does about 6-10 weeks of proper coaching a year at push? Most of the skills you need you as an intentional coach are the ability to man manage effectively and being able to foster a good team atmosphere. Edwards is a top coach in RU and the above skills are easily transferred through the two sports imo.
Add to that the type of person Edwards is I’m positive he’d throw himself feet first into developing his RL coaching skills 2.
He’s exactly the type of person we need imo and it would be a very astute and good move to get a guy like him in.
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| Two reasons why Smith got the job.
1, Edwards turned the GB/England job down when offered it.
2, Leeds wanted him out.
Who would replace Smith is the problem. There is not an obvious candidate.
Forget about Edwards and try and think of a credible alternative to Smith.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Two reasons why Smith got the job.
1, Edwards turned the GB/England job down when offered it.
2, Leeds wanted him out.
Who would replace Smith is the problem. There is not an obvious candidate.
Forget about Edwards and try and think of a credible alternative to Smith.'"
The way we are regressing as a team the next coach has to be one that can get them fired up, believing in themselves and be able to put club allegiances aside and make the big decisions that need to be made.
Has Smith completely ruined the idea of a part time coach who has a club already???
There are no credible alternatives are there
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| I was at a wedding with a Wasps player recently and asked him what he thought of Edwards.
The guy was in absolute awe of him. The respect (and fear) was written all over his face - he spoke of intensity, passion, perfection, motivation - all the values we've known Edwards has in bucketloads.
He also mentioned Edwards is obsessed with his weight. He told me about one day when the players were all in the gym having a weights session, the door burst open and a stark bollock naked Shaun Edwards stormed in with a look of thunder on his face, over to the scales. He weighed himself, shouted, "for 's sake", and stormed out again, slamming the door behind him. He was 2 pounds overweight.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Can Edwards play please?'"
brilliant player and a really nice bloke as well....bring him back so he can guide tomkins...if tomkins is quarter as good as shaun then bingo...
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| Heard from a very good source yesterday at the France v New Zealand game that there is no way Edwards will come back to the north and virtually no chance he'll leave rugby union. He loves it in London and is getting paid to do something he loves, coach. I was also told that Gizmo still prefers to watch league and finds union boring most of the time.
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