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| Did everyone notice koukash walking out early, the traffic is pretty bad getting out te stadium but...
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| Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Did everyone notice koukash walking out early, the traffic is pretty bad getting out te stadium but...
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He has heard that Billy Boston,Johnny Whiteley and Roger Millward are all availabe
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| Quote ="fc baldy"He has heard that Billy Boston,Johnny Whiteley and Roger Millward are all availabe'"
I will bet that Dr CockRash has never heard of these players.
He is just a here today-gone tomorrow rich, egotistical w@nker.
Money might buy short term success.
For CockRash it has just bought him over-the-hill greedy has-beens.
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| Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Did everyone notice koukash walking out early, the traffic is pretty bad getting out te stadium but...
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He was on his way to see IL to see if he could persuade him to take Harris back in part exchange for Shaun Wane.
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| He was on his way to see Greg Inglis at Franky & Benny's
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| I find it hard to understand the vitriol of fans against him. There is no evidence that he will walk away. He has fought all his life for what he has and like many self made men is bit too impatient. However, one of the constant criticisms on these boards is the lack of investment in Rugby League. Here is a bloke who is new to the game who has generated a lot of interest in a short time in a club that would be a basket case in the way that London and Bradford have become.
Ok he's made some questionable decisions and for an intelligent man he certainly says some stupid things, but let's face it his mutterings on twitter create a lot of followers from RL. And he's backed his coaches with money and they have bought whatever talent was available.
Of course you can't buy success, but youth programmes take years to develop and by then it may be too late.
Give the guy a break. I hope he doesn't walk away - if he does I wouldn't blame him. The crowd of 3,500 was pitiful and suggests that he may have chosen the wrong club, but I think he's a fighter and won't give in.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"I find it hard to understand the vitriol of fans against him. There is no evidence that he will walk away. He has fought all his life for what he has and like many self made men is bit too impatient. However, one of the constant criticisms on these boards is the lack of investment in Rugby League. Here is a bloke who is new to the game who has generated a lot of interest in a short time in a club that would be a basket case in the way that London and Bradford have become.
Ok he's made some questionable decisions and for an intelligent man he certainly says some stupid things, but let's face it his mutterings on twitter create a lot of followers from RL. And he's backed his coaches with money and they have bought whatever talent was available.
Of course you can't buy success, but youth programmes take years to develop and by then it may be too late.
Give the guy a break. I hope he doesn't walk away - if he does I wouldn't blame him. The crowd of 3,500 was pitiful and suggests that he may have chosen the wrong club, but I think he's a fighter and won't give in.'"
Totally agree. I suspect some of the dislike stems from envy in that Koukash is more able to splash the cash than a good many other SL chairman, and significantly less prudent than our own owner when it comes to spending on players (whether that's the way to go or not, is a different argument).
But I too am bewildered that so many fans seem to hate him. Do we really just want to swim about endlessly in this non-ambitious 'working class' rut that so many of us seem to think is the only thing RL can ever be?
We should be far more welcoming to colourful characters with money who want to buy into the British game.
But I also agree about the support he's getting in Salford, which is astonishingly poor. If an ambitious new owner with loads of cash won't bring the fans in, you've got to wonder who will. I'm starting to wonder if RL is finished as serious entertainment in Manchester.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Totally agree. I suspect some of the dislike stems from envy in that Koukash is more able to splash the cash than a good many other SL chairman, and significantly less prudent than our own owner when it comes to spending on players (whether that's the way to go or not, is a different argument).
But I too am bewildered that so many fans seem to hate him. Do we really just want to swim about endlessly in this non-ambitious 'working class' rut that so many of us seem to think is the only thing RL can ever be?
We should be far more welcoming to colourful characters with money who want to buy into the British game.
But I also agree about the support he's getting in Salford, which is astonishingly poor. If an ambitious new owner with loads of cash won't bring the fans in, you've got to wonder who will. I'm starting to wonder if RL is finished as serious entertainment in Manchester.'"
Ditto.
He's the sort of cartoon character that is so easy to lampoon. I couldn't help thinking that the only thing missing when the cameras were on him at Magic was a white Persian cat with a diamond collar.
I suspect he's genuinely interested in making something of Salford, but he's winding up everyone else by attempting to poach players & I question his grasp of the real grass-roots nature of our game (perhaps he thinks of himself as some sort of horsey Abramovich).
If Salford fans are now having a real pop at the guy, they've only got to look at what's gone on at Odsal or (continuing the wendyball theme) Fulham with Michael Jackson's biggest fan leaving. Be careful what you wish for.
If he gets some proper advice & engages the brain before opening his mouth (or wallet) then he could well be a proper asset to more than just the Barton Bridge Bashers.
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| I think he's great, hes just a bit of a gob$hite
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| Would be very interesting to see what he would do if they got relegated
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| Quote ="FIOS"Would be very interesting to see what he would do if they got relegated'"
I think they're safe this year, unless the RFL roll over for Bradford on their appeal. If the Bulls do get some points back, though, it could make things interesting...
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| I guess it's just me that thinks we don't need pantomime villans as owners.
We need serious people like IL who talk business and don't joke around on twitter.
If Koucash simply shut his gob and quietly went about his business there wouldn't be this level of anger directed towards him.
Moran at Wire has implemented a similar policy in the past and he signed some big names. He didn't however make himself look like a tool doing it. Then again he didn't have to as the Wire fans are perfectly capable filling the tool role.
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| is the overseas quote still in force, it seemed like Salford had plenty of overseas players playing last night?
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"I find it hard to understand the vitriol of fans against him. There is no evidence that he will walk away. He has fought all his life for what he has and like many self made men is bit too impatient. However, one of the constant criticisms on these boards is the lack of investment in Rugby League. Here is a bloke who is new to the game who has generated a lot of interest in a short time in a club that would be a basket case in the way that London and Bradford have become.
Ok he's made some questionable decisions and for an intelligent man he certainly says some stupid things, but let's face it his mutterings on twitter create a lot of followers from RL. And he's backed his coaches with money and they have bought whatever talent was available.
Of course you can't buy success, but youth programmes take years to develop and by then it may be too late.
Give the guy a break. I hope he doesn't walk away - if he does I wouldn't blame him. The crowd of 3,500 was pitiful and suggests that he may have chosen the wrong club, but I think he's a fighter and won't give in.'"
I was surprised by that crowd, I thought they were attracting 3-4k home fans plus there must've been 1500 Wigan fans there last night. Would've expected 5k minimum, even for a Thursday Sky game. Easiest I've ever got off that car park though!
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"I was surprised by that crowd, I thought they were attracting 3-4k home fans plus there must've been 1500 Wigan fans there last night. Would've expected 5k minimum, even for a Thursday Sky game. Easiest I've ever got off that car park though!'"
Ever noticed that at Salford there always seem to be more cars than fans?!!!
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| Quote ="Cruncher"
But I also agree about the support he's getting in Salford, which is astonishingly poor. If an ambitious new owner with loads of cash won't bring the fans in, you've got to wonder who will. I'm starting to wonder if RL is finished as serious entertainment in Manchester.'"
The stadium isn't in Manchester, that's a main part of the problem. If it was easy to walk up or travel to the stadium, I'm convinced that there is a market to tap. As it is it's as easy to travel to Warrington or Wigan from Central Manchester than to the AJ Bell or what ever it's called.
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| Quote ="Finfin"The stadium isn't in Manchester, that's a main part of the problem. If it was easy to walk up or travel to the stadium, I'm convinced that there is a market to tap. As it is it's as easy to travel to Warrington or Wigan from Central Manchester than to the AJ Bell or what ever it's called.'"
It desperately needs the proposed Metrolink expansion, but that's probably 15 years or more away (if it actually happens).
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"It desperately needs the proposed Metrolink expansion, but that's probably 15 years or more away (if it actually happens).'"
Never gonna happen - even the proposed extension for 2019 only goes as far as the Trafford Centre & the extension to the extension (to "Port Salford"icon_wink.gif is still looking for a "maybe possible" - unless Peel stump up considerable dosh, this current ConDem mob won't look at it twice.
Salford stated that they need some 5k for each game to break even, so if they're only raising 2/3 - 3/4 of that then there's big problems not that far round the corner.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Totally agree. I suspect some of the dislike stems from envy in that Koukash is more able to splash the cash than a good many other SL chairman, and significantly less prudent than our own owner when it comes to spending on players (whether that's the way to go or not, is a different argument).
But I too am bewildered that so many fans seem to hate him. Do we really just want to swim about endlessly in this non-ambitious 'working class' rut that so many of us seem to think is the only thing RL can ever be?
We should be far more welcoming to colourful characters with money who want to buy into the British game.
But I also agree about the support he's getting in Salford, which is astonishingly poor. If an ambitious new owner with loads of cash won't bring the fans in, you've got to wonder who will. I'm starting to wonder if RL is finished as serious entertainment in Manchester.'"
Many a true word there Cruncher
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| Quote ="nikos"is the overseas quote still in force, it seemed like Salford had plenty of overseas players playing last night?'"
Another one announced in todays M.E.N is that Michael Dobson has signed for Salford for next season.
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"Another one announced in todays M.E.N is that Michael Dobson has signed for Salford for next season.'"
How many half backs do they want? Sneyd, Chase, Fages, Smith and Dobson.
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| Quote ="nikos"is the overseas quote still in force, it seemed like Salford had plenty of overseas players playing last night?'"
Junior S`au
Meli (been here long time)
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So 7 born outside the UK but probably only 3 on quota --- (Mullaney (Oz) , McPherson (Oz) & Fages (Fr) also born outside UK not playing.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Junior S`au
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So 7 born outside the UK but probably only 3 on quota --- (Mullaney (Oz) , McPherson (Oz) & Fages (Fr) also born outside UK not playing.'"
Quota is irrelevant and has been for some time. It's fed or non-fed trained now, all of those would be non-fed although the ones that have been here longer may be excempt from when it was first introduced. They're allowed 7 anyway.
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| I Luje the bloke and think he is good for the game, he brings attention to the sport he is ambitious and thinks out if the box.
He clearly knows bugger all about the game but he will learn. I wonder how long it will before he throws some real money at a top coach like he should have done from the start.
He is clearly passionate about Salford, I don't see him walking away, I like the fact he has shaken up the establishment. Good luck to him.
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| Quote ="jonh"I Luje the bloke and think he is good for the game, he brings attention to the sport he is ambitious and thinks out if the box.
He clearly knows bugger all about the game but he will learn. I wonder how long it will before he throws some real money at a top coach like he should have done from the start.
He is clearly passionate about Salford, I don't see him walking away, I like the fact he has shaken up the establishment. Good luck to him.'"
I posted on another thread that it's arguably going to take 10 years to before they even realistically challenge. There's no magic wand to be waved and money will only get you so far. Wire have Hudds are well down the path Salford are embarking on and neither have won the big one yet.
Will the DR hold out for that long? Arguably with his big mouth and outlandish statements he's going to be under more scrutiny than any other owner in the league. That type of exposure and pressure will make for interesting viewing.
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