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Quote ="Owdpopularsider"Just Id thought Id share my correspondence with the club with all boys and girls..
Owdpop.....
So IL has a few questions to answer....
1. Tomkins signed a 5year deal in Nov 2011 that stopped him SPEAKING to ANY club for 3 years. In Sept 2013 he has SIGNED for NZ Warriors. How and why has the happened??
2. Why have you announced this 4 days before the most important game if the year??
3. What do you propose to do with the reported £1M the club has made in transfer fees this year??
Wigan Warriors....
the first 2 can be answered from todays press conference;
1. Wigan accepted a world record transfer bid from NZ Warriors and gave the club permission to talk to the player.
2. Both deals were finalised last week, so it was right that the fans were informed before Sams last home game.
3. Remains to be seen
Owd Pop.......
1. This then shows the Wigan club to be very weak IMO. To have fans believe back in Nov 2011 that SAMs not going anywhere for at least 3 years and then to let him go after 20 months is taking the proverbials out of the paying fans.
2. So the club has now created the 'Sam is leaving circus' before Fridays game. When all the fans should be concentrating is on backing the side onto victory. I couldn't care less about waving good bye to a player that doesn't honour his commitments to my club.
3. Well it would be nice to know.
Wigan Warriors....
The transfer bid could have come at any time and it was up to the Club whether or not to accept it. Due to the figures suggested, the offer was obviously too good to turn down.
Read the link below for more details on the deal;
www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 674&type=1
Thanks,
Admin
Owdpop...
I appreciate the replies I really do. The reasons you give for the sale leaves me extremely worried about my club and the sport in the UK. It seems any bid for our players that seem too good will now be accepted. This hardly leaves fans wanting to buy season tickets for next year does it. Why sell your prize asset when we still have a salary cap in place? It's not as if we can just go around splashing the cash is it?? The reason given by IL for the sale gave the perception that Sam was the main driver and he was desperate to leave, whilst your answer suggest otherwise. It's all rather sad for the fans of our once great club.
So IL was the main driving force behind the deal not Sam as he was the first port of call. It remain to be seen what happens with all that lovely money...'"
So the deal was initiated by WIGAN not Sam................?
Not what IL says in the official statement.
"When we realised that Sam was not able to be persuaded to stay a further year at Wigan - having won 2 Challenge Cups, 2 League Leaders Shields and 1 Grand Final, with the chance shortly of that being 2, together with Man-of-Steel and Junior Player of the Year Awards - we have had an open dialogue with him about New Zealand Warriors"
So which is it?
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Quote ="Owdpopularsider"Just Id thought Id share my correspondence with the club with all boys and girls..
Owdpop.....
So IL has a few questions to answer....
1. Tomkins signed a 5year deal in Nov 2011 that stopped him SPEAKING to ANY club for 3 years. In Sept 2013 he has SIGNED for NZ Warriors. How and why has the happened??
2. Why have you announced this 4 days before the most important game if the year??
3. What do you propose to do with the reported £1M the club has made in transfer fees this year??
Wigan Warriors....
the first 2 can be answered from todays press conference;
1. Wigan accepted a world record transfer bid from NZ Warriors and gave the club permission to talk to the player.
2. Both deals were finalised last week, so it was right that the fans were informed before Sams last home game.
3. Remains to be seen
Owd Pop.......
1. This then shows the Wigan club to be very weak IMO. To have fans believe back in Nov 2011 that SAMs not going anywhere for at least 3 years and then to let him go after 20 months is taking the proverbials out of the paying fans.
2. So the club has now created the 'Sam is leaving circus' before Fridays game. When all the fans should be concentrating is on backing the side onto victory. I couldn't care less about waving good bye to a player that doesn't honour his commitments to my club.
3. Well it would be nice to know.
Wigan Warriors....
The transfer bid could have come at any time and it was up to the Club whether or not to accept it. Due to the figures suggested, the offer was obviously too good to turn down.
Read the link below for more details on the deal;
www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 674&type=1
Thanks,
Admin
Owdpop...
I appreciate the replies I really do. The reasons you give for the sale leaves me extremely worried about my club and the sport in the UK. It seems any bid for our players that seem too good will now be accepted. This hardly leaves fans wanting to buy season tickets for next year does it. Why sell your prize asset when we still have a salary cap in place? It's not as if we can just go around splashing the cash is it?? The reason given by IL for the sale gave the perception that Sam was the main driver and he was desperate to leave, whilst your answer suggest otherwise. It's all rather sad for the fans of our once great club.
So IL was the main driving force behind the deal not Sam as he was the first port of call. It remain to be seen what happens with all that lovely money...'"
So the deal was initiated by WIGAN not Sam................?
Not what IL says in the official statement.
"When we realised that Sam was not able to be persuaded to stay a further year at Wigan - having won 2 Challenge Cups, 2 League Leaders Shields and 1 Grand Final, with the chance shortly of that being 2, together with Man-of-Steel and Junior Player of the Year Awards - we have had an open dialogue with him about New Zealand Warriors"
So which is it?
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"It wasn't the post about you that got the ban.
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If it was about me, I'm sorry I missed it!!!
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Personally I'm sad he is banned, and sad he and others have this irrational disdain for the present management. Nothing is perfect, and i would doubt that a single poster on this board is happy about the Sam situation. It's also sad that if you don't wander around with flaming torches and pitchforks, you are regarded as a "Happy Clapper", I don't find it insulting, I'm happy i can see both sides, a point some seem to miss. If they really want to moan and be happy, I'm sure they would be welcomed at MANY other clubs in SL who have genuine reasons to moan.
BTW, we are the current Challenge Cup holders, and 80 mins from Old Trafford.. Who would not have taken that at the start of the season... as for Sam, the king is dead, long live the king, move on.'"
If Sam had of stayed it wouldn't have stopped the moaners from moaning or the clappers from clapping. There is a lot of frustration in our game and you can't blame Sam and the Moose for wanting to go over to Oz for a decent wage and pitting their talents against tougher competition. I do genuinely believe IL is the best thing to happy to Wigan for a long time and he's fighting on all fronts and he doesn't have to do it, he can quit at any time but he loves the club. When the economic climate improves and the opportunities arise, that money will pay dividends for the club not IL
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| Quote ="jonh"Some people are living in a total fantasy world. Market forces dictate trade. Super League at the moment is a weak market compared to other competing markets.
It's all well and good quoting great overseas players from the past we have signed but it simply is not a realistic proposition at the moment, because of the open market.
We have signed so far 2 NRL based players, 1 who will be a very strong powerful dynamic back row forward and 1 world class player, who has been playing some of the best rugby of his career this season.
Look at the good Dr. over at Salford, I have seen comments on here about him and his recruitment plans etc and despite being linked with some world class names they hold a press conference to announce a load of OAP's from SL and a few NRL lads of a similar pedigree or lower than Eddie Petteybourn.
Growth from within is the way to succeed in times like this, market and both the coach and IFL are doing a great job in relation to that.
To be a top player you do not have to have an Antipodean accent. Saw a post lamenting the loss of Lima, and how he had not been replaced. Jesus as good as he was in his first year, he was gash in his second year generally, give me Scott Taylor any day, who did replace him.
The more you moan and complain an out being "short changed" or quote such things as ""IFL is mugging the fans off" or words to that effect the more moronic you look.
We as a club, are trading in a weak market, we are dealing with that the best way we can.
If you want to see a team littered with established World Class players at the height if their powers, put your hand in your pocket and get Premier Sport, then also an added advantage will be you will actually know something about the overseas players we have recruited rather than form an opinion on them based on zero evidence, or even better do yourself a favour get down to the Academy Final tomorrow if you want to see our future marquee players in action. Players that IFL is investing in and nurturing through the system to ensure we as a club are prepared for all trade conditions, now and in the future.'"
And that fellow Wigan fans is that.
Well said that man.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"I thought my spelling was bad, but not that bad as to ban someone from this forum lol. Anyway, life goes on. Carry on clapping...actually thats a good catchphrase'"
Should that not be "carry on with the clap?"
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"Should that not be "carry on with the clap?"'"
As opposed to "Carry on with the usual claptrap"?
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