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| Feels like a new "loans" team about to be announced for Sunday. Harvey Makin first in. Totally passed me by that he appeared once for London last year.
I'm not very enthused at bringing in young players not yet ready for teams in the same league and on short term loans. Ethan Natoli looks like it will be May before he's available. Reiss Butterworth won't play against his own team even if we extended.
Now wondering if missing that final tackle at Hull turns out to be the closest we get to a victory this season. Becoming increasingly difficult to see how the team will become more competitive, especially since a big issue is size and physicality, not something that can be resolved through coaching, tactics, selection etc.
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| Quote ="Smithers99"Feels like a new "loans" team about to be announced for Sunday. Harvey Makin first in. Totally passed me by that he appeared once for London last year.
I'm not very enthused at bringing in young players not yet ready for teams in the same league and on short term loans. Ethan Natoli looks like it will be May before he's available. Reiss Butterworth won't play against his own team even if we extended.
Now wondering if missing that final tackle at Hull turns out to be the closest we get to a victory this season. Becoming increasingly difficult to see how the team will become more competitive, especially since a big issue is size and physicality, not something that can be resolved through coaching, tactics, selection etc.'"
Tend to agree. Wigan’s young players are clearly very good, hard working and professional but loaning players short term from one SL to another is bizzare. It’s a real admission of where we are and difficult to see how we build a culture with short term loans no matter how good. I wonder if we could do it again we would just sign a few players at start of season who were happy to play anywhere even London (shock horror) in exchange for a SL spot and FT salary. Would that really have been so bad? Everyone is on a one year now and we appear to be heading back to the Championship anyway so changes would have been inevitable. I also begin to fear that we won’t see much in the way of competitive performances unless we recruit.
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| Hi
Giants fan here.
Just found out that we have been re-located from the north stand to the south stand for Sunday's "rivals round" game (even though quite a long way apart but I suppose someone's got to do it). Is this now nearer the pub in the ground? What goes on after the game? Is the bar open after the final whistle so fans can mingle?(I remember going to the stoop and staying afterwards in a bar with live music - good times.)
Any info gratefully appreciated.
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| Marginally further away but no more than a brisk three minute stroll through what is styled the fan zone. You’re a bit nearer the concessions and the open air bar. A reasonable amount of choice food wise at the moment but all a bit pricy as you’d expect. I believe the by the horns pub does remain open after the game. Hope that helps.
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| Quote ="BigTime"Marginally further away but no more than a brisk three minute stroll through what is styled the fan zone. You’re a bit nearer the concessions and the open air bar. A reasonable amount of choice food wise at the moment but all a bit pricy as you’d expect. I believe the by the horns pub does remain open after the game. Hope that helps.'"
Ugh misread your post it’s the other way around. Basic point getting to the pub or an open air bar in the fan zone is no inconvenience whether in south or north stand. Enjoy your day.
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| Hi
Thanks for taking out time to reply & for the information.
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| This is the third season in a row we have recruited players who are not of the required standard preseason. It can't be easy to bring in quality during the season so I have no idea why the club take this approach.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"This is the third season in a row we have recruited players who are not of the required standard preseason. It can't be easy to bring in quality during the season so I have no idea why the club take this approach.'"
In fairness to the club for the 2022 season they were just taking the pxxx. This year I suspect the IMG decision, which was entirely predictable, may have impacted on their thinking. I’d like to think it was that not incompetence.
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| Quote ="BigTime"In fairness to the club for the 2022 season they were just taking the pxxx. This year I suspect the IMG decision, which was entirely predictable, may have impacted on their thinking. I’d like to think it was that not incompetence.'"
You are generous to a fault BT, but hard to know for sure with the existence of the Broncos Omertà.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"You are generous to a fault BT, but hard to know for sure with the existence of the Broncos Omertà.'"
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| Quote ="Smithers99"Feels like a new "loans" team about to be announced for Sunday. Harvey Makin first in. Totally passed me by that he appeared once for London last year.
Reiss Butterworth won't play against his own team even if we extended.
yet ready for teams in the same league and on short term loans. '"
Fenton Rogers of course. Not Butterworth who becomes an issue next week against Hull KR.
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Oh dear indeed. Is there no end to what these northerners will do to get back to their mums!
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Oh dear indeed. Is there no end to what these northerners will do to get back to their mums!
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| Fenton causing chaos. Not the first time.
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| I found that really dispiriting primarily because, and I don’t mean this in a snide way-possibly they had injuries, they were pretty mediocre for at least half of that game and ended up with an easy win.
We really should have made that a closer run thing and we also benefitted from Livett not being able to hit a cow’s backside with a banjo on the extra points but we didn’t take our chances, gifted them points and ran out comfortable losers. Really difficult to see a less revved up side turning up at Plough Lane so am beginning to think we may actually not win this season. I thought Leyland played pretty well but does anyone understand what that short drop thing he does is. Did we gift them a try and two point penalty from it or is my memory failing. Again I’ll have to see the replay but that effort by Walker to ground the ball appeared to be comical in its ineptitude resulting in their first score.
Who are our creative players these days? Is it Meadows and Leyland. I may not agree with the comic who shouted out “what’s the point to you Meadows” but I think he has some way to go before he’s a strong SL player and if the only partner he’s going to have is Campo the he too needs to step up ASAP because I’ve not seen that much from him (once he comes back from what I assume is an injury-information black hole from the club on that). Basically if we don’t bring some in I struggle to see many positives this season.
I should add that Kershaw played on one leg for 75 minutes. He did pretty well but that can’t have done him any good and Butler looks a bit shot. I suspect he’s carrying a knock and could really do with a few games off. Lowell’s leg is all bandaged up but he seemed pretty lively I thought.
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| At least we got a taste of what it’s like to score first.Inevitable that they would eventually steam roll us.Atmosphere went from quite good to throughly disinterested 2nd half which reflected the game.Crowd back to Championship levels.Roughly 350 Huddersfield.A few usual faces missing due to it being Easter.There was a young couple sat near me who didn’t even know what sport they were watching,so don’t know where they were dragged from.Eccles said that he’d offered to take Kershaw off but he’d insisted he was ok to carry on
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| Quote ="Leicester"At least we got a taste of what it’s like to score first.Inevitable that they would eventually steam roll us.Atmosphere went from quite good to throughly disinterested 2nd half which reflected the game.Crowd back to Championship levels.Roughly 350 Huddersfield.A few usual faces missing due to it being Easter.There was a young couple sat near me who didn’t even know what sport they were watching,so don’t know where they were dragged from.Eccles said that he’d offered to take Kershaw off but he’d insisted he was ok to carry on'"
Yes attendance was down but still quite a few new faces and families so that is good - although as we’ve all said on here heavy defeats are less likely to encourage people to return. Not a huge number of Giants fans but they made some noise. As you say volume from Broncos fans drifted away as the game did. Really unclear where we go from here.
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| I didn't hear an announcement on the number attending. I'd guess about 2000? I sat in front of a couple of union fans first half who said they had acquired free tickets. Oddly for Easter Sunday all my transport options were working..i guess we will witness quite a few more results and performances like that. I can see crowds like yesterday being the norm as we move into summer and people have more options of things to do at the weekend.
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| Beginning to feel sorry for Cakeman, he's trying to talk a good game but as each defeat slides by, it sounds more hollow by the minute. Unless I've missed it, I'm surprised none of the journos have asked why the squad is so poor. Doubt they'd get much of an answer though.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Beginning to feel sorry for Cakeman, he's trying to talk a good game but as each defeat slides by, it sounds more hollow by the minute.
Couldn’t agree more: and on both aspects. He’s definitely got the team playing for him and they go the full 80 but very little flair and not enough beef. I found his list of big forwards missing that was offered as a reason why we were struggling to match other teams to not be particularly credible. B Leyland, Waine and Natoli were great for us last year in the Championship but I’m not they are in the category of huge forwards other teams have. Bienek is a miss and Butler not being fully fit is also a problem but even so we are short in that department and have not replaced either Norman or Whare which leaves us a top end but not TOP championship side. Grim.
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| Quote ="Hockley Bronco"I didn't hear an announcement on the number attending. I'd guess about 2000? I sat in front of a couple of union fans first half who said they had acquired free tickets. Oddly for Easter Sunday all my transport options were working..i guess we will witness quite a few more results and performances like that. I can see crowds like yesterday being the norm as we move into summer and people have more options of things to do at the weekend.'"
All things told and with weekend traffic etc I thought a pretty decent turnout although obviously down on previous weeks. If they are handing out free tickets, and I think they are, I’d avoid doing so for the upcoming Wigan , Saints and Wire games as it is self defeating to do so as they’ll not return off the back of embarrassingly heavy defeats.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Unless I've missed it, I'm surprised none of the journos have asked why the squad is so poor. Doubt they'd get much of an answer though.'" That's a question for Hughes really. Suspect he just can't afford it these days.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"That's a question for Hughes really. Suspect he just can't afford it these days.'"
Well, he holds the purse strings but coaches in all sports are asked about the quality of their squads so it's something that should be put to him. If he says speak to Hughes, then they should do that & if Hughes refuses to engage in any meaningful way, then report that. None of that, you would think, might come under the heading of sensitive business information.
Unlike Football & Union, where owners tend to stay in the background & let their Coach/Manager do the talking, RL owners like to have their say, so come on, Hughes address the concerns we all have.
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| Firstly....another depressing watch where the lacklustre performance of the opposition made us look far better than we were. Not sure where a win will come from but I suspect Castleford will see us as their saviours this year.
Secondly, the reason we are so short of quality is mainly down to 2 things. Our logistical attractiveness to players (ie...too far from mums cooking) and IMG basically saying we could win SL, The Challenge Cup, The NRL and State of Origin and we'd still be relegated, so why spend any of the £1.8 million or so central funding on anything as pointless as quality players.
Lastly. Giving away tickets to curious locals and union fans would have been far better done year one at plough lane. Widnes or Warrington, Batley or Huddersfield......even Wigan or Whitehaven....to most of these newbies, the northern town we played would make little difference, but Monkey and Lobster sold Plough Lane to Hughes as a new dawn and by the time monkey was off and lobster was doubling down on gold lounge offers, the chance was gone. Getting spanked by any northern side EVERY WEEK is going to kill us as an option for entertainment spends pretty quickly.
Sad to say I saw this coming and even sadder that I was shouted down by a great many, but here we are. Adrift and heading to a championship that I fear we will never escape unless it is further downwards
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| Attendance trend this season. 5102 - 4116 - 3324 - 2300 (estimated).
The reasons for the 1,000 hemorrhaging per match. I'm scratching my head.
Any guesses what the tell us for the Salford match?
I had an itch by the way, wasn't scratching my head trying to find a reason.
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