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| Can he keep his job?? Surely Hughes must be thinking of getting rid or even Coleman resigning.
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| I think if Hughes had a potential replacement, then he would already be gone, the issue is who do you replace him with. If your planning on winding up the club then why get a new one
I really think Newcastle will be our last home game. We will get <500 for it as its a Friday night, and Hughes will then decide to throw in the towel at that point
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| Manager???..Yes..I would like one please !
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| Bit grim this but seems to me that no wins in 10 games puts us in relegation form and in the manager replacement space. However 2 questions seem relevant to me: 1)how complicit is Coleman in the squad we have out and 2) would it be sensible to replace him at this stage.
I thought Rambo made a good point that no one would do well with what is, to no small degree, a L1 side. Question is how did we get this squad. If JC said he could get some like for like players from L1 and Skolars then that was inaccurate and he has to take responsibility. However I have a feeling that might not be what happened. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was told we were confident of retaining 50% ish of our 2021 squad, that we’d be signing good Aussie and had contacts with SL clubs to bring in promising youngsters on year long loans. All he would need to do was bring in a couple of his favourites from Skolars and a couple of hand picked players from L1 sides. Later when this all proved to be eyewash he had to raid Skolars as an emergency measure, play what we have out of position, bring players into crucial positions for 2 weeks and then deal with the lack of cohesion and we are where we are. If this is the case then the 2 out of 3 L1 players leaving straight away is on him and the fact that only Latu from the Skolars ‘chosen few’ has been consistent is on him but the overall recruitment failure less so.
Turning to who would come next. IMHO it would be an internal candidate as no one would move to London to take on a bottom of the league team and I’m not sure any are an obvious step up and, should we get relegated, they’d probably be sacked leaving another recruitment hole to fill. On balance we should stick with Coleman until end of season and see what he can do. As others I think if we don’t beat Dewsbury we are done for but you never know. Either way at season’s end Some serious thinking and planning will be required for there to be any future for Broncos.
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| All winter I erroneously predicted we would have a core of experienced day trippers from the north in key positions. It's the only way this may just have worked.
If Jermaine tried to do that and couldn't then fair enough (too late, not enough money etc.) If he chose not to, then there are questions to answer.
Truth be told, I fear changing coach now is too little too late irrespective of why we didn't sign daytrippers. It looks like we are seeing the demise of the club sadly.
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| Quote ="BigTime"On balance we should stick with Coleman until end of season and see what he can do. As others I think if we don’t beat Dewsbury we are done for but you never know. Either way at season’s end Some serious thinking and planning will be required for there to be any future for Broncos.'" Danny Ward got the shove, Tom Tsang got the shove and so should the Coleman Bros. Pay a more experienced coach extra and we'll defo win quite a few games - enough to stop relegation anyway.
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| Quote ="BigTime"However 2 questions seem relevant to me: 1)how complicit is Coleman in the squad we have out and 2) would it be sensible to replace him at this stage.
I thought Rambo made a good point that no one would do well with what is, to no small degree, a L1 side. Question is how did we get this squad. If JC said he could get some like for like players from L1 and Skolars then that was inaccurate and he has to take responsibility. However I have a feeling that might not be what happened. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was told we were confident of retaining 50% ish of our 2021 squad, that we’d be signing good Aussie and had contacts with SL clubs to bring in promising youngsters on year long loans. All he would need to do was bring in a couple of his favourites from Skolars and a couple of hand picked players from L1 sides. Later when this all proved to be eyewash he had to raid Skolars as an emergency measure, play what we have out of position, bring players into crucial positions for 2 weeks and then deal with the lack of cohesion and we are where we are. If this is the case then the 2 out of 3 L1 players leaving straight away is on him and the fact that only Latu from the Skolars ‘chosen few’ has been consistent is on him but the overall recruitment failure less so.'"
In his pre-season message DH was "genuinely delighted with the squad we have assembled on the budget we have allocated him". Not sure too many fans saw it that way but to a large extent you probably get what you pay for.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"In his pre-season message DH was "genuinely delighted with the squad we have assembled on the budget we have allocated him". Not sure too many fans saw it that way but to a large extent you probably get what you pay for.'"
If Coleman was allocated ten bob then I believe him otherwise really, really difficult to see what DH was getting at. The delight didn’t seem to last very long either as we have continued to try and dig up extra players. I wonder if the scales fell from his eyes after the first 10 minutes of the Widnes game or whether when it finely dawned we were going to be nilled by Whitehaven at home?
Or perhaps the statement is a way of DH saying don’t blame me the squad’s all Coleman’s idea. Who knows. The one thing I do know is I wasn’t delighted and I don’t remember too many on this forum thinking the squad looked right for Championship.
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| Quote ="BigTime"If Coleman was allocated ten bob then I believe him otherwise really, really difficult to see what DH was getting at. The delight didn’t seem to last very long either as we have continued to try and dig up extra players. I wonder if the scales fell from his eyes after the first 10 minutes of the Widnes game or whether when it finely dawned we were going to be nilled by Whitehaven at home?
Or perhaps the statement is a way of DH saying don’t blame me the squad’s all Coleman’s idea. Who knows. The one thing I do know is I wasn’t delighted and I don’t remember too many on this forum thinking the squad looked right for Championship.'"
I think it just goes to show how clueless DH is.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"I think it just goes to show how clueless DH is.'"
Maybe someone told him Skolars were in SuperLeague and we’d done really well to capture 9 of their players! I really don’t have a clue what we were thinking of which is why I have put forward my appropriate adult model going forward. The decisions we have made are not only baffling but self defeating. Someone (with a brain and no dog in the fight) looking in from the outside would pick it up in 5 minutes surely?
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| Which ever way you look at it, the silence from Hughes & his pet Lobster is deafening.
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| Has Mustard gone yet?? #Colemanout
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| I suspect his fate may be decided by the next match.
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| This thread should really be called Coach as he clearly isn't managing. On the other hand, coaching is open to debate too.
For what it's worth, however good, bad or indifferent he might turn out to be, I'd have Tony Rea back in some capacity.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Which ever way you look at it, the silence from Hughes & his pet Lobster is deafening.'"
I like to think they are busy huddled over a computer mocking up an attractive semi professional team sheet/line up note acknowledging our sponsors for Sunday’s game. I’m sure they will be mindful that failing to meet the standard set by Hammersmith Hill Hoists, Skolars (see their Twitter) or indeed our recent hosts Leigh makes us look like chumps and they wouldn’t want that. Sigh......
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| Quote ="jbuzza"I suspect his fate may be decided by the next match.'"
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"This thread should really be called Coach as he clearly isn't managing. On the other hand, coaching is open to debate too.
For what it's worth, however good, bad or indifferent he might turn out to be, I'd have Tony Rea back in some capacity.'"
Especially if he has IT skills. He can overhaul the website!!
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Interesting timing- we lose this weekend and a proven, experienced coach is available? Surely even David Hughes can do the joined up thinking?
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Interesting timing- we lose this weekend and a proven, experienced coach is available? Surely even David Hughes can do the joined up thinking?
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| If you looked at Jermaine Coleman's club level record, he has managed to obtain just a single win over the past two years against English semi-professional opposition.
His sole win against English semi-professional opposition was against Coventry Bears about a year ago and apart from that he has seen only wins against perennial losers West Wales since around this time in 2020.
He did have a good run in the Spring of 2020, with about five or six wins out of seven and also picked up a string of wins back in 2017, when the division split off and he was facing the weaker teams.
However any scrutiny of his record would show that there is probably about two to three fallow years to the ones where there are a fair number of wins.
Where do we go from here?
If you do a statistical analysis of the Championship, the third from bottom team has tended to only need 5 wins to stay up, as the bottom two tend to get little or nothing.
Two wins against Workington, two wins against Dewsbury, two wins against Sheffield, two wins against Newcastle and a win against Whitehaven are all still possible, and I would fancy us to stay up with clean sweeps against Worky and the Rams.
Widnes have fallen away, and that one might not be impossible, whilst Bradford aren't impossibly strong.
However reinforcements are obviously needed.
There are no quality contracted halfbacks at the club although I appreciate some may rate Horsman. I personally do not rate him, the Leylands, Moceidreke, or Ramsey at half back.
There is no quality in the centres or wingers other than Ulberg.
For me, we need to bring in 3 to 5 first team standard backs and half backs if we are to threaten the opposition tryline.
But the question is, is that on?
I think the club would need to bring in several players on relatively decent money, with some job security, perhaps an 18 month minimum contract, if we are to go forwards.
We have already plundered Skolars, and I would assume there is nothing left there; in fact I would have argued there was nothing in the first place that you could not get from the amateur scene.
The question is, will this be sanctioned?
In theory the club could go out and say bring in quite a few players; Dixon would be available; Boafo I believe would return for the same salary; there's also the possibility of Hindmarsh and Walters playing again for the right money. I'm not sure what happened with Kameron Pearce-Paul but he is good enough as is Mason Caton-Brown. There's also got to be good players not in the team at a fair number of clubs.
If we lose to Dewsbury, that would put us 5 points behind both them and Whitehaven. If we lose also to Newcastle, we would then face five games away on the trot. That would take us into the last ten games with next to no points. Whilst 7 games of the last 10 are at home, there are still the likes of Featherstone, Leigh and Halifax to visit. We are running out of track.
But I do suspect Hughes has no interest in putting in anything other than the cheapest possible manager and players and thus we will have to make do and mend.
I think my solution would be to get the players who just miss on the matchday squad, from someone like Huddersfield, and pay a fee and put them straight in to the side, as they have got to be better than what we have.
They could come down on the Saturday for the Captain's run and play the Sunday, that's all we'd need.
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| Quote ="markrammond"If you looked at Jermaine Coleman's club level record, he has managed to obtain just a single win over the past two years against English semi-professional opposition.
His sole win against English semi-professional opposition was against Coventry Bears about a year ago and apart from that he has seen only wins against perennial losers West Wales since around this time in 2020.
He did have a good run in the Spring of 2020, with about five or six wins out of seven and also picked up a string of wins back in 2017, when the division split off and he was facing the weaker teams.
However any scrutiny of his record would show that there is probably about two to three fallow years to the ones where there are a fair number of wins.
Where do we go from here?
If you do a statistical analysis of the Championship, the third from bottom team has tended to only need 5 wins to stay up, as the bottom two tend to get little or nothing.
Two wins against Workington, two wins against Dewsbury, two wins against Sheffield, two wins against Newcastle and a win against Whitehaven are all still possible, and I would fancy us to stay up with clean sweeps against Worky and the Rams.
Widnes have fallen away, and that one might not be impossible, whilst Bradford aren't impossibly strong.
However reinforcements are obviously needed.
There are no quality contracted halfbacks at the club although I appreciate some may rate Horsman. I personally do not rate him, the Leylands, Moceidreke, or Ramsey at half back.
There is no quality in the centres or wingers other than Ulberg.
For me, we need to bring in 3 to 5 first team standard backs and half backs if we are to threaten the opposition tryline.
But the question is, is that on?
I think the club would need to bring in several players on relatively decent money, with some job security, perhaps an 18 month minimum contract, if we are to go forwards.
We have already plundered Skolars, and I would assume there is nothing left there; in fact I would have argued there was nothing in the first place that you could not get from the amateur scene.
The question is, will this be sanctioned?
In theory the club could go out and say bring in quite a few players; Dixon would be available; Boafo I believe would return for the same salary; there's also the possibility of Hindmarsh and Walters playing again for the right money. I'm not sure what happened with Kameron Pearce-Paul but he is good enough as is Mason Caton-Brown. There's also got to be good players not in the team at a fair number of clubs.
If we lose to Dewsbury, that would put us 5 points behind both them and Whitehaven. If we lose also to Newcastle, we would then face five games away on the trot. That would take us into the last ten games with next to no points. Whilst 7 games of the last 10 are at home, there are still the likes of Featherstone, Leigh and Halifax to visit. We are running out of track.
But I do suspect Hughes has no interest in putting in anything other than the cheapest possible manager and players and thus we will have to make do and mend.
I think my solution would be to get the players who just miss on the matchday squad, from someone like Huddersfield, and pay a fee and put them straight in to the side, as they have got to be better than what we have.
They could come down on the Saturday for the Captain's run and play the Sunday, that's all we'd need.'"
That doesn’t answer the question of who leads the club on the playing front
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| Quote ="markrammond"I think my solution would be to get the players who just miss on the matchday squad, from someone like Huddersfield, and pay a fee and put them straight in to the side, as they have got to be better than what we have.
They could come down on the Saturday for the Captain's run and play the Sunday, that's all we'd need.'"
As always a well though out post MR.
The issue here is will Hughes bankroll this stop gap? My feeling is no.
On 2 fronts the new dawn has failed and he will be sulking about the lack of fans and having to pay for a band this weekend, rather than focussing on the abject failure on the park.
Was he at Leigh? Did it "jog his memory"? He has his well spoken of coach and he was delighted with the squad....he'll never admit he got it wrong. Making Danny Ward walk straight away ripped the heart out of that squad......many were never going to stay after their coach was treated so shoddily.
My solution would be to assemble 6 or more Northern based players in a "mini-squad" on-loan whilst we play away for the summer. Then, wherever possible get the southern based players north as early as possible for training pre-match.....Batley, Town, York, Dewsbury, Widnes & Sheffield.....if we could get some decent quality players for these games on loan, then I think we stay up.....none of those games are unwinnable, but we need to act now, or as you say, we leave it too late.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Which ever way you look at it, the silence from Hughes & his pet Lobster is deafening.'"
Now we know DC they were on the phone booking the band! Happy days.
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| Quote ="BroncoBen"Another one gone yet Coleman stays!!'"
Emma Raducanu is now looking for her fourth coach in ten months. She wins the US Open and then immediately sacks that coach and has achieved nothing since. A shame we can't win something (anything this season) and then sack the coach. LoL!!
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