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| It looks like a 4 way battle to avoid relegation between Bradford, Catalans, Wakefield and London.
Having seen Bradford play I cannot see them getting past zero points in the near future with their next 9 matches including home and away games with Huddersfield whilst they also have Salford, Leeds, Warrington & Saints amogst their next 5 home games whilst they are also playing Hull KR, Widnes, Wigan all away. I'd be genuinely surprised if they get past zero prior to the end of May.
I would suggest that Catalans have an easier run of fixtures coming up with plenty of home games, however they have a lot of older imports in their 30s and a fair number of injuries to key players and I do not see them winning too many games; once their players return they will be facing harder opponents. Their home games will be key as always.
With Wakefield they are a gritty side with a bit of quality and I would expect them to pull clear of Bradford and Catalans in the coming weeks.
It looks like our three matches against Catalans, the home game v Bradford and the two matches against Wakefield are all 4-pointers.
Where I do have some hope is that we will improve, it looks like we'll have Vea next week and the top brass at the club have assured me that we are still in the market for front rowers and perhaps a halfback, though it will probably be 4 or 5 weeks into the NRL season before we'd have a good chance to make signings. I can't see us being too far adrift that is for sure.
I'm really thinking that we can stay up, perhaps I am on my own in this.
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| A good preseason would have seen this team looking quite good, alas that ship sailed.
This London team really needs a good strength and conditioning coach, in fact I'd go as far as saying it's essential andshould be DH's next big signing.
London competed well in the 1st half but looked tired in the 2nd and just kept dropping off tackles.
The game plan is there, the personel on the field are there but they need to match teams for a full 80 not just 40 mins.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"they need to match teams for a full 80 not just 40 mins.'"
Last year we couldn't match Wire for 5 minutes let alone 40.
This team has spirit so maybe relegation isn't a foregone conclusion
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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"Last year we couldn't match Wire for 5 minutes let alone 40.
This team has spirit so maybe relegation isn't a foregone conclusion'"
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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"Last year we couldn't match Wire for 5 minutes let alone 40.
This team has spirit so maybe relegation isn't a foregone conclusion'"
For me the team spirit is the biggest improvement over the last two seasons.
Right at the death when their winger ran the length of the field four of our players followed and while they didn't prevent the score they did force him to ground it in the corner, making for a difficult kick that was missed.
Last year they'd have all given up after 20 minutes and 20 metres and it would have been grounded under the posts.
In short, they looked bothered, and that's something you can build on. Certainly an improvement after two seasons of watching a team that seemed not to care.
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| Quote ="Perry"Certainly an improvement after two seasons of watching a team that seemed not to care.'"
The fact that half the players we released immediately retired is a damning indictment.
TR has wisely plumped for players with a point to prove.
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| Have to say I enjoyed it more than I expected. It did make a pleasant change to see 17 men trying - what a damning indictment of recent teams.
I struggle to see us surviving on the pitch and gates to date suggest it may be a battle for survival off the pitch. If this is to be the end at least we look likely to have a team giving their all on the pitch. It's all we can ask of them when they cross that white line. I won't make every game but if they keep battling I'll try to make a few more than I previously expected to.
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Have to say I enjoyed it more than I expected. It did make a pleasant change to see 17 men trying - what a damning indictment of recent teams.
I struggle to see us surviving on the pitch and gates to date suggest it may be a battle for survival off the pitch. If this is to be the end at least we look likely to have a team giving their all on the pitch. It's all we can ask of them when they cross that white line. I won't make every game but if they keep battling I'll try to make a few more than I previously expected to.'"
It my first game of the season yesterday and I came away with similar feelings, it will be a struggle but if the players we have give their all then I'm prepared to back them by getting to as many games as I can.
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| Quote ="markrammond"I'm really thinking that we can stay up, perhaps I am on my own in this.'"
you are not alone, but I believe you are mistaken.
8 wins may well be enough to stay up......this side doesn't have 8 wins in it...in fact, I still think this side will struggle to get 1 win!
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| We need to win a game in the next 3 or 4 to have any chance, the season soon gets away from you when you think you're doing ok but not getting results.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"We need to win a game in the next 3 or 4 to have any chance, the season soon gets away from you when you think you're doing ok but not getting results.'"
Lose to Wakefield and it's nearly a done deal......lose that AND the French and it's goodnight Vienna!
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| Well, each game has seen an improvement, we can get there, we just have to hope we don't run out of games.
I still feel we will end up 9th, with no logical reason, I just BELIEVE.
AND, even if we don't, I won't be going elsewhere or start watching Basketball, I'll wait for someone to resuscitate the Club!
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| Quote ="markrammond"It looks like a 4 way battle to avoid relegation between Bradford, Catalans, Wakefield and London.
Having seen Bradford play I cannot see them getting past zero points in the near future with their next 9 matches including home and away games with Huddersfield whilst they also have Salford, Leeds, Warrington & Saints amogst their next 5 home games whilst they are also playing Hull KR, Widnes, Wigan all away. I'd be genuinely surprised if they get past zero prior to the end of May.
I would suggest that Catalans have an easier run of fixtures coming up with plenty of home games, however they have a lot of older imports in their 30s and a fair number of injuries to key players and I do not see them winning too many games; once their players return they will be facing harder opponents. Their home games will be key as always.
With Wakefield they are a gritty side with a bit of quality and I would expect them to pull clear of Bradford and Catalans in the coming weeks.
It looks like our three matches against Catalans, the home game v Bradford and the two matches against Wakefield are all 4-pointers.
Where I do have some hope is that we will improve, it looks like we'll have Vea next week and the top brass at the club have assured me that we are still in the market for front rowers and perhaps a halfback, though it will probably be 4 or 5 weeks into the NRL season before we'd have a good chance to make signings. I can't see us being too far adrift that is for sure.
I'm really thinking that we can stay up, perhaps I am on my own in this.'"
Well Mark I agree Bradford have a lot of tough fixtures coming up but they have some very experienced quality players despite having lost a few very good ones. On paper i'd still say they have a better team than us. They can also get better 'loan' players than us and the big clubs want them to stay up remember so will be happy to help them. They will win a few of those 9 games as one or two will have an offday against them and they are strong enough to take advantage. If a new owner comes in and they are allowed to sign players they will get some quality in that we cant attract and get a big edge over us. Our next 9 fixture include Wakey and Catalans twice. If we can win 2 of those and Bradford don't win a game then fair enough with a 6 point cushion we may stay in front of them assuming our injured players are fit and going strong then, as its keyplayers we are losing. However we seem to have a fitness problem on our hands and i don't know what the coaches can doto cerrect it. We seem to be a long way behind our oponents for somereason. Wakey have nicked some quality off Bradford (especially Summat a gamewinner) and are able to get quality loan players from their neighbours so i cant see us catching them though hoping for an upset this week. Catalans are vulnerable at the moment so if we can get ourselves fit and take 4 points off them we might have a chance but their home advantage in that heat IMO means they are bound to get a few wins over the season. For us to get the necessary wins we need our best players on the park and must get them fit. ATM Im not sure that we can get them fit. I think with Vea playing as well the quality is there though so im thinking 13th place above Bradford ATM sadly.
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| From listening on the interweb at stupid o clock the wire game sounded like we have really improved. I don't think that this team will not win any sl match this year. I do still think that we are still in big trouble and there is a big risk of relegation. But there are encouraging signs on the pitch. I do feel better after the wire game, this is a look of a team that can get a whole lot better.
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| Whilst I enjoyed it enough to anticipate making more visits than previously anticipated I think we have to accept that Wire were nowhere near their best. It was better than last season score wise but was that down to them or us?
I agree with Paddock we aren't top division quality. Whilst I'd rather we were, I won't get too upset about that. The reason I got an Oxford season ticket was that last season was a breath of fresh air, 17 guys giving 100%, something we hadn't seen at London for far too long. Sunday was a breath of fresh air for the same reason.
If the players keep that up they deserve my support. Be the best they can, I ask no more of them.
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| Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"Whilst I enjoyed it enough to anticipate making more visits than previously anticipated I think we have to accept that Wire were nowhere near their best. It was better than last season score wise but was that down to them or us?
I agree with Paddock we aren't top division quality. Whilst I'd rather we were, I won't get too upset about that. The reason I got an Oxford season ticket was that last season was a breath of fresh air, 17 guys giving 100%, something we hadn't seen at London for far too long. Sunday was a breath of fresh air for the same reason.
If the players keep that up they deserve my support. Be the best they can, I ask no more of them.'"
Yep with no P & R, once the honours are out of reach, thats what you get, guys going through the motions!
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"Yep with no P & R, once the honours are out of reach, thats what you get, guys going through the motions!'"
The inadequacies of the London Broncos RLFC in the seasons 2010/11/12/13 have very little to do with their being no p&r. 25 SL wins in the last 112 SL games are down to the Owners refusal to take advice from anyone regarding anything.......he let Mac go thinking Powell was ready.....he then took 18 months to get rid of his mistake and replaced him with another "buddy"......the last season was one where we really reaped the benefit of Hughes megalomania.....whilst 2014 is the year we can appreciate his inability to make a statement and stand by it.
By the way, this is the only year that RELEGATION will be a worry for SL clubs.....from 2015 onwards, they will have 400% more overseas players and twice the salary cap as opposed to their Championship foes in the middle 8...... chances of someone "going up" are purely based on maybe a club going pop......
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| We seem to be a couple of big forwards short. Cooke and Olsi put in spell that were too long on Sun.
Atkins is a waste of a slot, wearing No 3 so was presumable our starting centre pre season. Caton Brown isnt ready for SL yet. Wire/Bridge had a field day attacking him.
Some of the attacking moves on Sunday looked good.
I dont think we have enough to stay up sadly.
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| Been saying that since before the season started WQ', "we need a couple more big old ugly props".
As to the other GF', well it will be difficult for a while, because for the last few seasons the Championship clubs have been left to "whither on the vine" whilst the rest have had the benefit of Sky's millions without having to do anything.
However eventually the top end Fev', Leigh & 'Fax in particular will probably have their day. Look at other sports with P & R and it's not that unusual for some small clubs to overhawl the disadvantage, where there is a will there is a way!
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| Quote ="wire quin"[u[iWe seem to be a couple of big forwards short[/i[/u. Cooke and Olsi put in spell that were too long on Sun.
Atkins is a waste of a slot, wearing No 3 so was presumable our starting centre pre season. Caton Brown isnt ready for SL yet. Wire/Bridge had a field day attacking him.
Some of the attacking moves on Sunday looked good.
I dont think we have enough to stay up sadly.'"
Keeping Greenwood fit would help ref the forwards. If we have to wait a few weeks into the NRL season before one becomes available and THEN have to apply for a visa we will have missed the chance for some possible points against Catalans.
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