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| There is currently nothing on any mainstream media about a newly created Head Coach position vacant at London Broncos.
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| and its now 10.40 on Monday. No excuses
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| I wonder who could take over until the weekend at such short notice? Is Howell the U20 coach up to it? We're not going to get an Aussie coach overnight and really need to avoid any mistakes.
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| Just a case of wishful thinking by the looks of it
This weeks bandwagon is sack Powell - looks like they are first to jump on it
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| Might not hear anything until tomorrow (if there's anything to hear) - Powell would have to be told, plus the players and an emergency replacement found (stop hiding in the bogs, that man!) for the weekend. What's REALLY puzzling me is that it would appear the David Hughes doesn't want the club to succeed, surely he must be aware of the shambles we've become and yet nothing concrete ever seems to happen to change things.
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| Maybe DH is reluctant to part with any more cash in paying off RP!
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| To be fair DH has put his hand in his pocket big time this time round to sign some quality players so he DOES want the club to suceed which so he has acted!. Unfortunately in sport you are not in charge of all the variables. If RP goes and the new man can't get them to play then i don't know where we go to.
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| Quote ="tricky_dicky"Maybe DH is reluctant to part with any more cash in paying off RP!'"
He wouldn't have to pay him off were he to move him bk to a role many believe him to better suited to, as an asst coach. Then you'd only have to find a head coaches wage and that would only cost around 2 days of Wayne Rooneys salary and would cover the best head coaches salary in RL for a year.
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| Given it's now well into Monday pm, I expect Powell to be in charge on Saturday.
I really hope he is tough this week and leaves out some of the underachievers and continues to bring in young Londoners. Out of the 17 go Howell, O'Callaghan and Witt (and with them a quarter of our missed tackles so far). Randall left out or benched. Let's see much more of Caro, Dixon, Sarginson, Thomas and Krasniqi. Hopefully, we can have Clubb back on board too.
This week offers RP a massive opportunity to (a) show he us can read the game and (b) show his squad he has some presence. I remain most pessimistic about (b).
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| I am surprised RP wasn't sacked in the changing room after the game on Friday and made to pay his own fare home after that shambles.....quite possibly along with some of the playing squad
So if it hasn't happend by now, I doubt it's going to happen at all
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| The players have decided they aren't going to play for him. Don't know what choice DH has.
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| Quote ="Snoopy"The players have decided they aren't going to play for him. Don't know what choice DH has.'"
He has to be seen to be proactive, at least to try and protect his investment in the club. To that end RP has to be replaced, by whom is another matter entirely - it needs to be done before its too late to salvage the season - and it's possibly already past that point.....
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| Quote ="tricky_dicky"He has to be seen to be proactive, at least to try and protect his investment in the club. To that end RP has to be replaced, by whom is another matter entirely - it needs to be done before its too late to salvage the season - and it's possibly already past that point.....'"
Bit harsh, first four games were always going to be difficult. Salford is one that should have been won if the team are aiming for the top 8. Castleford is a no-brainer. Lose the Cas game then that is a season breaker since the mighty Wigan are up next.
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| Powell does need someone more experienced over his head...Powell is more suited to assistant I think.
Our team have done nothing since Powell has been in post (both as assistant and head coach). He was supporting McDermott....who also did nothing with us, however at Leeds he seems to have built a very strong outfit - possibly more to do with the squad already there.
I'm not one for kicking Powell totally out - but I'm not sure how long he can remain in sole charge of the squad and selection etc......he offers something to the team...he just needs someone with experience to guide him for the remainder of the season at least - can then evaluate things in the next off season (I know we've only just begun 2012!)
How long is his contract with us for at present?
If I hear him mention "we're improving" I'll go mad.....we're not the only team improving each week....that needs to be told to him ASAP. The excuse will not wash.
I still think a heart to heart team meeting and some uncomfortable truths need to come out this week in order to move forward....the team, management and supporters need to all be giving 100% effort and more than anything, the team need to be willing to put their bodies fully on the line for the club and eachother.
We can't have flappy defence....at SL level it just isn't good enough.
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| Bad as politics with "bandwagons" I am quite certain that David Hughes well knows we have a serious problem, give him some credit you don't have the monies he has invested in London RL without being successful, but no one can just wave a magic wand & produce someone quickly either to work with Rob or replace him.
How many real candidates are there around? and more important how many want to live in London?
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| Quote ="Colly2"Given it's now well into Monday pm, I expect Powell to be in charge on Saturday.
I really hope he is tough this week and leaves out some of the underachievers and continues to bring in young Londoners. Out of the 17 go Howell, O'Callaghan and Witt (and with them a quarter of our missed tackles so far). Randall left out or benched. Let's see much more of Caro, Dixon, Sarginson, Thomas and Krasniqi. Hopefully, we can have Clubb back on board too.
This week offers RP a massive opportunity to (a) show he us can read the game and (b) show his squad he has some presence. I remain most pessimistic about (b).'"
Spot on - I would rather support a team full of youthful exuberance with a youthful coach and take a pragmatic view on results rather than these so call 'experienced' under acheivers, pre season hype far from being matched by on field carry on, well carry on up the kyber perhaps. As with everything London RL, its never that simple as results surely influence crowds and sponsorship and profile and so on and so on.
Add to Callaghan, Witt and Howell, Rinaldi (ideally taken off quota and Hickey brought in) and Bailey and add to the additions Ben Bolger.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"Quote ="Colly2"Given it's now well into Monday pm, I expect Powell to be in charge on Saturday.
I really hope he is tough this week and leaves out some of the underachievers and continues to bring in young Londoners. Out of the 17 go Howell, O'Callaghan and Witt (and with them a quarter of our missed tackles so far). Randall left out or benched. Let's see much more of Caro, Dixon, Sarginson, Thomas and Krasniqi. Hopefully, we can have Clubb back on board too.
This week offers RP a massive opportunity to (a) show he us can read the game and (b) show his squad he has some presence. I remain most pessimistic about (b).'"
Spot on - I would rather support a team full of youthful exuberance with a youthful coach and take a pragmatic view on results rather than these so call 'experienced' under acheivers, pre season hype far from being matched by on field carry on, well carry on up the kyber perhaps. As with everything London RL, its never that simple as results surely influence crowds and sponsorship and profile and so on and so on.
Add to Callaghan, Witt and Howell, Rinaldi (ideally taken off quota and Hickey brought in) and Bailey and add to the additions Ben Bolger.'"
way too idealistic. As I posed to another poster, its all well and good saying X should be dropped, but we have nobody to step in and fill the gaps. Unless someone is hiding something, we have seen the best our Under 20's have to offer and realistically only Sarge, Olsi and possibly Dixon are up to it at the moment. That isn't to say the likes of Caro, Thomas etc won't step up, but we would get absolutely murdered if we were forced into playing any more young lads and personally I would take even less satisfaction from that happening compared to what is happening now.
Funny how everyone was going on pre season about how strong the team looks on paper, yet the same people are writing it off and calling for senior players to be dropped. the idea of dropping Randall is the most bonkers considering he is our only recognised hooker. I'm not massively keen on him but quite simply there are no alternatives.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"The idea of dropping Randall is the most bonkers considering he is our only recognised hooker. I'm not massively keen on him but quite simply there are no alternatives.'"
True, but you have to question the capability of a coach who let this situation transpire.
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| Quote ="daftdad"Bit harsh, first four games were always going to be difficult. Salford is one that should have been won if the team are aiming for the top 8. Castleford is a no-brainer. Lose the Cas game then that is a season breaker since the mighty Wigan are up next.'"
I think it is the nature of the performances that are more concerning than the results. This weekend has to be the last chance saloon and contingency plans should be in place.
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| Agree with Listy.
On the subject of dropping Bailey, why would we drop the player that makes most carries, metres and tackles for us? Agree penalties are a problem but surely he will sort that out.
Re Olsi, it was unfortunate that he copped a bit of stick last Friday. If my stats are correct, he didn't miss one tackle, make an error or give away 1 penalty in that game (neither did Jason Golden).
Mind you, I don't know how long he played for (was holding my head in hands staring at the floor for the most part). and of course, I missed the first 20 mins trying to get in the friggin ground!
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| Quote Bad as politics with "bandwagons" I am quite certain that David Hughes well knows we have a serious problem, give him some credit you don't have the monies he has invested in London RL without being successful, but no one can just wave a magic wand & produce someone quickly either to work with Rob or replace him.'"
I don't think anyone will dispute the fact that DH has put a lot of money into the club and is quite possibly the main reason we are still around. However for a man who is obviously a very shrewd, intelligent and successful businessman he made a horrendous error of judgement with RP and as it was his decision he must carry some of the blame. Why would you give a two year contract to someone whose ability is as unproven as RP's was. Surely the sensible decision would have been to give him a year contract and if he achieved with the team it would be renewed and if he didn't get results then it would not be renewed. There is no disputing he did not get results last year and is being allowed to carry on in the same vein, if not worse again this year - that borders on commercial suicide. People will stop coming along, I for one will not try to bring new people along to spend a fortune watching the dross we are expected to tolerate. It would be too embarrassing. I am not expecting a win every time the team come out on the pitch but I do expect to see commitment and a want to win attitude. I can take being beaten as long as there has been effort and commitment in the game. It would be wonderful to see a win more often but I seriously cannot see where the next win will come from at the moment.
I agree with WQ about no more away trips we have done them for years but no longer will continue to do so. We have more to spend our money on than the fortnightly trip to watch a team devoid of ideas or action. Away trips stopped last year. They were planned in for this year but plans have been shelved why put ourselves out and spend money when the team can't put themselves out for fans, bet they have enough energy to collect their pay packets. Unless major improvements are seen soon I should think a number of season tickets will not be renewed next season.
Rant over and now over to DH to salvage something from this embarrassing mess.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"way too idealistic. As I posed to another poster, its all well and good saying X should be dropped, but we have nobody to step in and fill the gaps. Unless someone is hiding something, we have seen the best our Under 20's have to offer and realistically only Sarge, Olsi and possibly Dixon are up to it at the moment. That isn't to say the likes of Caro, Thomas etc won't step up, but we would get absolutely murdered if we were forced into playing any more young lads and personally I would take even less satisfaction from that happening compared to what is happening now.
Funny how everyone was going on pre season about how strong the team looks on paper, yet the same people are writing it off and calling for senior players to be dropped. the idea of dropping Randall is the most bonkers considering he is our only recognised hooker. I'm not massively keen on him but quite simply there are no alternatives.'"
Assuming Clubb back but no Te Mata, Rodney.
Dorn - Caro, Colbon, Sarginson, Robertson - Bailey, Gower - Kaufusi, Rinaldi, Krasniqi - Golden, Cook, Clubb: bench from Randall, Dixon, Thomas, Bryant, Melling
H-T: Dixon to 5, Robertson to 1, Dorn to 6, Bailey to forwards.
I think that's our best team at the minute and it includes 6 academy products, none included as tokens: I judge Caro (or Dixon)/Colbon to be a better right-side combo than Colbon/Howell; I prefer Sarginson to O'Callaghan; Krasniqi makes more metres/carry than Bryant and is more aggressive; Clubb is a proven performer; Thomas (and if not him, Lamont) deserves 25 mins off the bench on merit.
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| Having only seen the Hull FC game on Sky, I may not have as much right to comment as others but I find people's posts on here to be ridiculous, either intentional or knee-jerk.
People turning their backs on the club, either home or away or both, is a bit mad (i'm aware away attendances dont count). The majority of threads on here are regarding the franchising system or the clubs attendances and how they need to improve. So not turning up and further depleting the attendance figures, won't work, will it? The RFL have even told the club they need to improve so not turning up will harm the club you support. That's not clever is it?
If the Cas game, of which I'll be attending, is another spineless hammering then there are better forms of protest than hitting the club where it hurts the most. Booing has become a norm in professional sport, as has "[insert coach name here Out" chants. Those chants, sung by a big number, is a better way of telling the powers that be that Rob Powell isn't up to the job.
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