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2012 First XVII currently picks itself - there are only 17 recognized first team players currently signed-up & announced!
L Dorn, J O'Callaghan, T Clubb, D Sarginson, C Melling, M Witt, C Gower, R Thomas, C Randall, M Bryant, J Golden, O Krasniqi, C Bailey.
Subs: D Howell, L Bryan, B Bolger, O Caro
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Name 2011 club Heritage/Passport Federation Status
1 Luke Dorn =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFpre-2008 Exemption =#00BF80counts as Federation Trained
2 Jamie O'Callaghan =#408000Club Trained
3 Tony Clubb =#408000Club Trained
4 David Howell =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFpre-2008 Exemption =#00BF80counts as Federation Trained
5 Chris Melling =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF6 Luke Gale Bradford Bulls =#00BF80Federation Trained
7 Chad Randall =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFpre-2008 Exemption =#00BF80counts as Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF8 Karl Temata =#FF8040Out of Contract =#8000FFComplete Exemption from both registers due to Cook Islands passport and pre-2008 arrival =#00BF80effectively counts as non-overseas Federation Trained player
=#BFBFFF9 Andy Ellis Wakefield =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF10 Oliver Wilkes Wakefield =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF11 Nick Kouparitsas =#FF8040Out of Contract =#8040FFEuropean passport Exemption =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
12 Chris Bailey =#FF0000Australian =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF13 Rob Purdham Cumbria
14 Jason Golden =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF15 Luke Ambler Leeds Rhinos =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF16 Mike Burnett =#FF8040Out of Contract =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF17 Danny Ward =#FF8040Out of Contract =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF18 Dave Williams =#FF8040Out of Contract =#408000Club Trained
19 Lamont Bryan =#408000Club Trained
20 Ben Bolger =#408000Club Trained
21 Olsi Krasniqi =#408000Club Trained
22 Omari Caro =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF23 Mark Calderwood =#FF8040Out of Contract =#00BF80Federation Trained
24 Dan Sarginson =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF25 Jack Latus Hunslet Hawks =#00BF80Federation Trained
26 Rob Thomas =#408000Club Trained
27 Joe Ridley =#408000Club Trained
28 Sam Bolger =#408000Club Trained
29 Will Lovell =#408000Club Trained
30 Max Edwards =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF31 Karl Pryce Wigan Warriors =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF32 Joe Mellor Wigan Warriors =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF33 Lee Mitchell Warrington Wolves =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF34 Chris Riley Warrington Wolves =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF35 Kyle Briggs Bradford Bulls =#00BF80Federation Trained
Players linked Club Heritage/Passport Federation Status
=#FF0040Craig Gower - since confirmed by club Bayonne RU Australian/Italian Non-Federation Trainedwww.smh.com.au/sport/ibra ... 1i5c0.html
www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13776.php
Antonio Kaufusi Newcastle Knights Australian/ =#000000Samoan =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/0 ... ders-exit/
Julien Rinaldi Wakefield French
www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport ... _1_3643177
=#FF0000Mark Bryant - since confirmed by club Crusaders =#8000FFComplete Exemption from both registers for length of initial 2 year contract
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/rug ... -23306887/
www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13769.php
Chris Armit Canterbury Bulldogs Australian/ =#000000Scottish =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Armit
Liam Colborn Hull KR =#00BF80Federation Trained
This players is out of contract and rumoured to be signing on the Hull KR Fans site for Quins unless they can offload the contracted Peter Fox
Matt Cook Hull KR =#408000Club Trained?
This player is out of contract but I am yet to identify the source of rumour suggesting he may join
Michael Worrincy Windsor Wolves =#408000Club Trained
This player is out of contract and appeared to be mentioned as a possible signing on the Ian Ramsdale show
Rob Worrincy Halifax RL =#408000Club Trained
This player was mentioned as a possible signing by the Guardian
Dennis Tuffour York City Knights =#408000Club Trained
Sources close to the club have suggested that Dennis Tuffour will be returning now that he has completed his Hull degree; he was in our Academy
Harry Atkins London Irish Rugby Union Club =#408000will become Club Trained
www.getreading.co.uk/sport/rugby ... ice_scheme
=#BF0000Michael Witt - also confirmed by Club Crusaders =#8000FFComplete Exemption from both registers for length of initial 3 year contract
www.surreycomet.co.uk/sport/9180 ... ssie_pair/
www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13769.php
The club is allowed to have a 25 man squad with a salary cap of £1.6 million.
This must include:
A) A minimum of 8 club-trained players in the top 25 (Sarginson, Clubb, O'Callaghan, Krasniqi, B Bolger, Bryan, Caro, Thomas). Williams expected to leave... could also see Dixon, McMeekin or Bishay come in, or players numbered 26-30 also promoted to first team squad)
B) A significant proportion of Federation trained players (generally between 7 and 17)
The club is only allowed to have:
B) A maximum of 5 players onthe Quota register
C) A maximum of 5 players onthe Non-Federation trained register
As of 5th August 2011, there are 13 players left out of the 2010 'top 25' but 2 definite signings = 15.
The club had 4 Quota players and 2 Non-Federation Trained players in 2011.
In plain English, with Kouparitsas leaving we can sign 1 more Quota player and 4 Non-Federation Trained players in 2012 and would expect to be signing at least 8 more players, assuming that Rob Thomas is added to the top 25 and no youngsters are promoted into the top 25.
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L Dorn, J O'Callaghan, T Clubb, D Sarginson, C Melling, M Witt, C Gower, R Thomas, C Randall, M Bryant, J Golden, O Krasniqi, C Bailey.
Subs: D Howell, L Bryan, B Bolger, O Caro
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Name 2011 club Heritage/Passport Federation Status
1 Luke Dorn =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFpre-2008 Exemption =#00BF80counts as Federation Trained
2 Jamie O'Callaghan =#408000Club Trained
3 Tony Clubb =#408000Club Trained
4 David Howell =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFpre-2008 Exemption =#00BF80counts as Federation Trained
5 Chris Melling =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF6 Luke Gale Bradford Bulls =#00BF80Federation Trained
7 Chad Randall =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFpre-2008 Exemption =#00BF80counts as Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF8 Karl Temata =#FF8040Out of Contract =#8000FFComplete Exemption from both registers due to Cook Islands passport and pre-2008 arrival =#00BF80effectively counts as non-overseas Federation Trained player
=#BFBFFF9 Andy Ellis Wakefield =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF10 Oliver Wilkes Wakefield =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF11 Nick Kouparitsas =#FF8040Out of Contract =#8040FFEuropean passport Exemption =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
12 Chris Bailey =#FF0000Australian =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF13 Rob Purdham Cumbria
14 Jason Golden =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF15 Luke Ambler Leeds Rhinos =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF16 Mike Burnett =#FF8040Out of Contract =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF17 Danny Ward =#FF8040Out of Contract =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF18 Dave Williams =#FF8040Out of Contract =#408000Club Trained
19 Lamont Bryan =#408000Club Trained
20 Ben Bolger =#408000Club Trained
21 Olsi Krasniqi =#408000Club Trained
22 Omari Caro =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF23 Mark Calderwood =#FF8040Out of Contract =#00BF80Federation Trained
24 Dan Sarginson =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF25 Jack Latus Hunslet Hawks =#00BF80Federation Trained
26 Rob Thomas =#408000Club Trained
27 Joe Ridley =#408000Club Trained
28 Sam Bolger =#408000Club Trained
29 Will Lovell =#408000Club Trained
30 Max Edwards =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF31 Karl Pryce Wigan Warriors =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF32 Joe Mellor Wigan Warriors =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF33 Lee Mitchell Warrington Wolves =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF34 Chris Riley Warrington Wolves =#00BF80Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF35 Kyle Briggs Bradford Bulls =#00BF80Federation Trained
Players linked Club Heritage/Passport Federation Status
=#FF0040Craig Gower - since confirmed by club Bayonne RU Australian/Italian Non-Federation Trainedwww.smh.com.au/sport/ibra ... 1i5c0.html
www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13776.php
Antonio Kaufusi Newcastle Knights Australian/ =#000000Samoan =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/0 ... ders-exit/
Julien Rinaldi Wakefield French
www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport ... _1_3643177
=#FF0000Mark Bryant - since confirmed by club Crusaders =#8000FFComplete Exemption from both registers for length of initial 2 year contract
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/rug ... -23306887/
www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13769.php
Chris Armit Canterbury Bulldogs Australian/ =#000000Scottish =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Armit
Liam Colborn Hull KR =#00BF80Federation Trained
This players is out of contract and rumoured to be signing on the Hull KR Fans site for Quins unless they can offload the contracted Peter Fox
Matt Cook Hull KR =#408000Club Trained?
This player is out of contract but I am yet to identify the source of rumour suggesting he may join
Michael Worrincy Windsor Wolves =#408000Club Trained
This player is out of contract and appeared to be mentioned as a possible signing on the Ian Ramsdale show
Rob Worrincy Halifax RL =#408000Club Trained
This player was mentioned as a possible signing by the Guardian
Dennis Tuffour York City Knights =#408000Club Trained
Sources close to the club have suggested that Dennis Tuffour will be returning now that he has completed his Hull degree; he was in our Academy
Harry Atkins London Irish Rugby Union Club =#408000will become Club Trained
www.getreading.co.uk/sport/rugby ... ice_scheme
=#BF0000Michael Witt - also confirmed by Club Crusaders =#8000FFComplete Exemption from both registers for length of initial 3 year contract
www.surreycomet.co.uk/sport/9180 ... ssie_pair/
www.league.quins.co.uk/news/13769.php
The club is allowed to have a 25 man squad with a salary cap of £1.6 million.
This must include:
A) A minimum of 8 club-trained players in the top 25 (Sarginson, Clubb, O'Callaghan, Krasniqi, B Bolger, Bryan, Caro, Thomas). Williams expected to leave... could also see Dixon, McMeekin or Bishay come in, or players numbered 26-30 also promoted to first team squad)
B) A significant proportion of Federation trained players (generally between 7 and 17)
The club is only allowed to have:
B) A maximum of 5 players onthe Quota register
C) A maximum of 5 players onthe Non-Federation trained register
As of 5th August 2011, there are 13 players left out of the 2010 'top 25' but 2 definite signings = 15.
The club had 4 Quota players and 2 Non-Federation Trained players in 2011.
In plain English, with Kouparitsas leaving we can sign 1 more Quota player and 4 Non-Federation Trained players in 2012 and would expect to be signing at least 8 more players, assuming that Rob Thomas is added to the top 25 and no youngsters are promoted into the top 25.
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| Rob Worrincy, suggested as a transfer target in the national Guardian half-way through last month and journalists don't normally do that sort of thing unless the club were interested.
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| Quote ="Londo06"www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3734562/Nick-Fozzard-fury-as-Crusaders-sign-off-ruins-his-Suoper-League-swansong.html
Looks like we pulled the plug on the Nick Fozzard deal as well.'"
Good.
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| Fozzard's 34, and would probably have only come for a year - I don't really see the point of him signing to be honest. Gower is slightly different IMO insofar as he could provide a 'mentoring' role to Sarginson.
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| Quote ="Londo06"www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/3734562/Nick-Fozzard-fury-as-Crusaders-sign-off-ruins-his-Suoper-League-swansong.html
Looks like we pulled the plug on the Nick Fozzard deal as well.'"
Thank you for that.
He has not been of the right quality for a number of years and was looking for a swansong - or big pay off?
Would only have played 30 mins a game. Can't afford to many players like that.
Although weve had a few this year.
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| Quote ="markrammond"Name 2012 club Heritage/Passport Federation Status
1 Luke Dorn =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFExemption
2 Jamie O'Callaghan =#408000Club Trained
3 Tony Clubb =#408000Club Trained
4 David Howell =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFExemption
5 Chris Melling
=#BFBFFF6 Luke Gale Bradford Bulls
7 Chad Randall =#FF0000Australian =#8000FFExemption
=#BFBFFF8 Karl Temata Out of Contract =#8040FFExemption =#8000FFExemption
=#BFBFFF9 Andy Ellis Wakefield
=#BFBFFF10 Oliver Wilkes Wakefield
=#BFBFFF11 Nick Kouparitsas =#8040FFExemption =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
12 Chris Bailey =#FF0000Australian =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
=#BFBFFF13 Rob Purdham Cumbria
14 Jason Golden
=#BFBFFF15 Luke Ambler Leeds Rhinos
=#BFBFFF16 Mike Burnett Hull FC
=#BFBFFF17 Danny Ward Out of Contract
=#BFBFFF18 Dave Williams Out of Contract =#408000Club Trained
19 Lamont Bryan =#408000Club Trained
20 Ben Bolger =#408000Club Trained
21 Olsi Krasniqi =#408000Club Trained
22 Omari Caro =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF23 Mark Calderwood Out of Contract
24 Dan Sarginson =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF25 Jack Latus Hunslet Hawks
26 Rob Thomas =#408000Club Trained
27 Joe Ridley =#408000Club Trained
28 Sam Bolger =#408000Club Trained
29 Will Lovell =#408000Club Trained
30 Max Edwards =#408000Club Trained
=#BFBFFF31 Karl Pryce Wigan Warriors
=#BFBFFF32 Joe Mellor Wigan Warriors
=#BFBFFF33 Lee Mitchell Warrington Wolves
=#BFBFFF34 Chris Riley Warrington Wolves
=#BFBFFF35 Kyle Briggs Bradford Bulls
Players linked Club Heritage/Passport Federation Status
Craig Gower Bayonne RU Australian/=#000000Italian =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
Antonio Kaufusi Newcastle Knights Australian/=#000000Samoan =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
Julien Rinaldi Wakefield French Federation Trained
Mark Bryant Crusaders /=#8000FFExemption =#8000FFExemption
Chris Armit Canterbury Bulldogs Australian/=#000000Scottish =#0000FFNon-Federation Trained
Lloyd White Crusaders
Liam Colborn Hull KR
Matt Cook Hull KR
Michael Worrincy Windsor Wolves =#408000Club Trained
Dennis Tuffour York City Knights =#408000Club Trained'"
Matt Cook was in the London Broncos Academy several years ago, and as such should he be classed as club trained?
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| ... I can't blame Powell for trying to sign players with size and power given that pretty much all our forwards are no taller than 5"10 and even the props seem physically weaker than our outside backs.
However, I can and will blame Powell for releasing Wilkes and Ellis in a botched attempt to sign Fozzard and to bring back Rinaldi.
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| I thought the rumour about Bryant had been doing the rounds before we knew of the Fozzard article in the Sun. so is it possible that Quins have pulled out from this deal and gone after another forward from Crusaders. i.e. O'Hara or Peek...
Or even in the land of make believe the club have not gone for a forward but pulled out of the deal as they chasing Witt...
On the Colborn rumour. do we really need him as i thought that Caro would be ready to step up to 1st team next season.
And if Powell thinks hes not ready, then he have to give a reason why not as plenty who have seen him play claims hes good enough for the 1st team, or does Powell have to ask Boss Randall first if ok to promote him to 1st team..
Also if we have to go for a winger from HullKR then why not go for Fox, at least hes an England international
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| Quote ="markrammond"... I can't blame Powell for trying to sign players with size and power given that pretty much all our forwards are no taller than 5"10 and even the props seem physically weaker than our outside backs.
However, I can and will blame Powell for releasing Wilkes and Ellis in a botched attempt to sign Fozzard and to bring back Rinaldi.'"
I will be even more annoyed then you if we let Wilkes go and resign Ward..
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| Sorry if I'm being dense here.
If Chris Bailey is our only person on the quota who is not exempt don't we have 4 quota places left?
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| Tarl, there are 2 registers.
We can sign ONE Aussie or New Zealander whose passport states 'Australia' or 'New Zealand' on the front to go with Dorn, Howell, Bailey and Randall.
We can also sign FOUR more overseas players. These can be Australians or New Zealanders providing they are devious enough to get a passport which does not state 'Australia' or 'New Zealand' on it, anyone from the Pacific Islands, anyone whom has got an exemption from the RFL etc etc.
In practice we could get one e.g. Darren Lockyer whom is clearly Australian with an Australian passport but at least four players with a Star Wars Cantina style name (like the 35% of NRL players with Pacific heritage!).
Hull KR have 10 overseas players this season.
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| Quote ="markrammond"Tarl, there are 2 registers.
We can sign ONE Aussie or New Zealander whose passport states 'Australia' or 'New Zealand' on the front to go with Dorn, Howell, Bailey and Randall.
We can also sign FOUR more overseas players. These can be Australians or New Zealanders providing they are devious enough to get a passport which does not state 'Australia' or 'New Zealand' on it, anyone from the Pacific Islands, anyone whom has got an exemption from the RFL etc etc.
In practice we could get one e.g. Darren Lockyer whom is clearly Australian with an Australian passport but at least four players with a Star Wars Cantina style name (like the 35% of NRL players with Pacific heritage!).
Hull KR have 10 overseas players this season.'"
Thanks Mark
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| We've signed Mark Bryant on a 2 year deal and Michael Witt on a 3 year deal
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| Link.....confirmation......rumour????
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"Link.....confirmation......rumour????'"
Now on Quins site
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| On the Fozzard rumour in the Sun. Quins have denied making an offer to him, which has been confined by his agent.
Only thing worries me now is it was same newspaper and juno who claimed we had signed Kaufusi,which he denied as well down in Aus..Lets hope this one story is true and we have signed him..
A guy i know on facebook from Aus also told me that as far as he knew it was true we had also signed Chris Armit (yes i no its not from an official site or forum with a link)... He said hes a good player
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