I see that Sky Sports has finally come to the conclusion that Senior is an old man

Keith Senior has signed a new contract with Leeds that will see him remain at Headingley until the end of the 2010 campaign.

The veteran centre joined the Rhinos from Sheffield Eagles a century ago

Not only do they need to replace him but they need a centre for the other side.

Gafa and Howell had a field day at Leeds.

I know I may be slightly bias here, but I think our centres are the best in SL at the moment.

What better than Gidley, Shenton eg or do you mean as a pairing?

They are good although they probably lack that extra bit of pace which comes in handy if you break the line

I'd rather have Senior in the side than Clubb any day. Not Howell though.

Where's the link there?

How many games this season has Clubb played at left centre? Therefore how can you compare.

You will be comparing Feka at Wigan with Penny at Wire(Widnes) next.

This appears to be not dissimilar to your comparisons of Mbu with Dorn

As a pairing.

I'm only comparing player on player, they have similar roles, centres that drift away every so often. I was only refering to their defensive/attacking abilities, not whether they are left/right players etc. Senior seems to spend most of his game in the forwards anyway, so again, i'd rather have him there than Clubb.

What next, getting upset about comparing loose head and tight head props?

Gidley and Wheeler.

Wheeler looks VERY impressive.

Listy o' Listy you've lost the plot with this one.

You can only compare a centre against a centre surly. This year Clubby has rarely featured in the centres and therefore on current form it would be difficult to run a comparison.

I would be interesting to see Senior feature as a prop ala Clubby

Not as much as usual but he has played on quite a few occasions (I recall being furious about his defence out wide).

Do you really think Clubb is being used as an out and out prop? It almost seems like a hybrid between a prop and a second rower to me, leaning more towards being second row.

I agree. We are using him as a "forward". If you look at the team for tonight thread this is what I have suggested may happen. 3 props plus Clubby.

As Yoda (AKA) paddock punter has pionted out, Clubb misses loads of tackles....but by god, when he connects....he CONNECTS


I see him as a Second row forward with a tendancy to attack from a wide position, but defend nearer the middle due to his missed tackle count. Either way, I am glad he's a quins player.
If you like a lot of tackle in your Rugby Join our Clubb!

Better than shenton/evans..mogg/bell..carmont/gleeson..senior/smith?

Maybe..Yes..Yes..No

Youd rather have a good qualiity ageing northerner in the side than a good quality young londoner? You say some bizarre things sometimes.

You miss the point. I said in the team, i.e on a match day, not in the squad for the season, where obviously I would favour Clubb.

That doesnt make any sense.

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We are playing Salford tomorrow. 1 shirt is up for grabs. 2 players can fill this shirt, Clubb or Senior. Who do you choose?

Senior for me, every day of the week.

But not everyday of the season??

Yeah.

Senior is obviously the better player, but he's at the end of a long career and Clubb is in the early stages of his. You also have to remember that early in his representative career Senior actually spent time on the wing because we had superior centres such as Connolly and Newlove.

I've never regarded Senior as a great centre, a very good one certainly, but his great strength has been his consistency through the years. I doubt Clubb will become a great centre either, but I suspect he may become a very good second-row in time if he can improve his overall defensive game (he's already well on the way to becoming a devastating attacking second-row).

Newlove, now he really was a great player in his prime, as was Connolly. I hope we can find someone as talented as them one day. In fact Senior has been a very good Centre, not exactly subtle more along the rough and brutal side - but very effective