so why moving areas makes people think it would work now is beyond me.

The experiment is dead, enjoy what we have for now while we have it.

Well said Homer...agree with you entirely.

Are you 100% certain that our landlords want us to remain and that we can negotiate a contract to remain at the ground which is acceptable, I do not know all the facts, if you do then please share the terms being discussed?

How do we ever build a community in any stadium that we use around once ever two weeks during the season?

being kicked out and choosing to leave are two completely different scenarios and if we are being kicked out we should be making a stink about it.

Let's not have the facts get in the way of jaybs's argument.

What was an ENORMOUS missed opportunity was, for four-odd years as Harlequins RL, the headteacher of the neighbouring Richmond College - with its 5k students - was a huge RL and Warrington Wolves fan.

Why would they want to cut off a revenue stream that, if the 30k a game figure that is claimed is right, then there's nearly 400k a year they'd lose for very little disruption?

Simple! because we are not happy with the fees and they are not willing to compromise, if that figure is accurate then Liverpool and Everton have had a field day the fees they paid for their reserves at rugby grounds and they most likely attracted larger attendances then we do.

But long term it is just having our own ground! we gain no benefits from using the ground.

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All you did was explain why we might be looking to move.......you didn't explain why Quins would want to lose 400k in revenue.

I repeat my question..........Why would they(HARLEQUINS) want to cut off a revenue stream that, if the 30k a game figure that is claimed is right, then there's nearly 400k a year they'd lose for very little disruption?

You are the one that suggested that maybe Quins wanted us out.....but put forward not one shred of evidence to back it up.....it was designed to add weight to your East is Best campaign....which is itself flawed from start to finish.

Is it £400,000 p.a.? Really?

Sounds steep if it's true. Manly pay around $400,000 p.a. to play at Brookvale and that'd be not just for first grade, but for when NSW Cup and the juniors play there separately at different weekends as well as first grade.

Probably more if you convert into pounds and add a retainer fee on top of match day fees. RFU rip off me thinks given what we are likely to pay at on the road grounds.

gutterfax, you are the one not myself who always claims to know all the facts and swear them to be correct, My Opinion is with Quins they may think now is it really worth it, they may also feel we are damaging their brand.

Perhaps East London will give me a commission for promoting what a superb part of the capital it is! LOL!!

East London is a hole

DH said last year that we were paying £200,000 pa for The Stoop...when Paul Blanchard was CEO he said the rent was very reasonable.

Doubt that Quins would want rid of us while we are keeping our noses clean, so to speak. £200,000 buys them another player and its unlikely they would get involved with another Union club (there was an unhappy alliance with the Not-nots a while back).

Talk of us getting our own stadium is complete pie-in-the-sky...it ain't going to happen anytime soon.

All places have there bad spots, there bad people I'm sure even in Twickenham, but I have met many genuine people warm hearted people in the many years I have supported West Ham.

£200K is the figure I have heard before, which seems decent value.

So your opinion is that this season, you know, the season we have rebranded to become the LONDON BRONCOS, will be the season, that Harlequins are going to decide we are damaging their brand, and this didn't occur to them in any of the 6 seasons we were called HARLEQUINS?

Truly you win every award going for opinions that are one chip short of a happy meal.

Agreed given we left GP reportedly paying £150k

The True Jokers are those who can see no wrong in the Quins brand and the damage it is doing to us as a Super League Club! do you not think it would have seemed strange foe our landlords to kick us out when we carried the same name.

If I want to play your silly games of name calling which I don't like to do as it is more like girls in the school yard, then consider you come over as nothing less than a fruit cake with such a stupid comment!

So many seem to think that it is "Pie in the Sky" we will ever move, well I just can't see us staying at The Stoop forever if we remain in Super League, that is my opinion and I stick by it.

I never said it is "pie in the sky" that we will ever move, I said we won't be getting our own stadium.

Jaybs- you seem confident we will be getting our own stadium, please enlighten us at to where the money will be coming from. Have you won the Euro lottery or something?

If I win the Euro, we will have Our Own Stadium! be it East, North or West! or South, whichever area we can really be part of the community and build upwards! - if we have to ground share again, please Not a union club and I am not anti union at all, I was a full member at Orrell RUFC in their glory days with my mate Peter Williams and John Carleton, but it was so different at Orrell I tell you.

and how does that relate to your original opinion that we are damaging the Quins brand more this season than in any other?

And you wonder why people have difficulty following your posts. If you can't answer fine, leave it.

So is it £200,000 or Gutterfax's nearly £400,000?

I was obviously way off the mark...I would take ther 200k figure or 15k a game...

Harlequins brand damaging the ESL club how exactly?

Fan numbers were about the same over 4 years as Quins RL as they were as the Broncos at Griffin Park........the team became absolute , that's when the attendances tapered off.......
Rupe1 and the other "chiponshoulders" claimed we'd see the massed hoardes of RL fans return in their gazzillions once we were free of the Union name......let me know how that's panning out?

The only thing damaging the ESL club in London is the continued neglect when it comes to promotion. Change the name to the south London Stags, or Noth London Norsemen....East London Eels even.......build a purpose built 20,000 seater arena and fill the squad with entire Kanagroos squad....it wil make no difference unless they F()(king tell anyone.

The first 4 years as Quins saw 199,000 fans watch 53 games of Superleague......the previous 4 years at Griffin Park saw 194,000 watch 54 games of ESL with some taken OTR. The previous 4 years saw about 160,000 watch 56 "Home" games..........prior to that........well, prior to that, there was even less marketing....the novelty value was enough back then.....and since 2010, the team have been utter crap, still are!

There is no evidence that anywhere would be a good place in London for the ESL team to be situated, but before another expensive and unrequired move is considered, they should at first have a crack at MARKETING IT in an area where they have been trying to build some form of community network.. (no matter how badly they have gone about it)