14,850 seats at the stoop...3,124 was the average gate last year......79% empty.
Seriously.....there are 6 blocks that are currently available for ST holders...these blocks hold approximately 3,000. Come back and whine when they are all sold out and you are being pushed past the 40 meter line



Be thankful there is a club to support. Be thankful that there is a decent stadium toupport them in. Be thankful we have a CEO who at least seems to be trying.

some people have very short memories........14 months ago we were worried we wouldn't have anything at all.....

Yes.

What did he say to you during the chat you have obviously had that has led you to becoming Gus's little lap dog? Its quite cringeworthy to be honest. Its like you and Paddock have swapped roles.

You are missing the point GF. Some people want allocated seating for whatever their personal reasons are. There is money to make by providing AE on Ethiad and LV stands at a higher premium for allocated seating and the club have not used this to created more wealth. I know it wont be a lot of money but it is money none the less which the club need and every little helps. It would only be a small area either side of the pitch and a much larger area for unallocated seating the result = hopefully everyone is happy as they either pay up or shut up. Allocated seats for those who really want them and are prepared to pay for them or any one of a number of available seats cheaper - not rocket science is it. Surely the club can easily steward such a small area without too much hassle

No I would not really rate it a mess, just something needs to be sorted out and I am sure can be.

It just gets so frustrating that one or two here now so called supporters will say anything they can against the club and the way its run, half expect them to be stood outside of The Stoop next season with a hand banner "The End is Nigh" - some people get drawn into the games they are playing, that is what they want!

Best is just let them get on with it, one day they will see not sure if they will ever accept they are in a very small minority.

Many of us now seem to agree things are looking better for 2012, but everything is not perfect yet and that could never happen overnight, we have got to be constructive and see what happens but at the same time not hide away from saying when we feel things need to be changed, its no use just having a whine here, David Hughes and Gus listen! but they at the end of the day have to make a decision what they feel is best for the majority of supporters and The Club!

Might be going against the grain here but I'm happy to have unreserved seating for our STs. Unless we are getting sell out crowds it won't be a problem getting our four seats together and it means that if we want to bring anyone else along they can buy a ticket for the relevant block and sit with us. It also gives us the freedom to move around a bit if we don't like the company!

I'm also happy that the LV stand is open for business as it was for the latter part of this season as I prefer watching from nearer to the pitch.

So, for me, it's well done Gus and co on this one.

I am prepared, as I was with the super dooper marketing manager from 2009, to give Gus time to get things sorted. Because I repeat this, I am a lap dog? What did strike me was the enthusiasm that he has for the club and for making it a success.....
Carley or whatever she was called messed about with 5,000 oyster cards and a viral video seen by nobody.......she got both barrells from me and in my opinion, deservedly so. If Gus takes his foot off the gas and/or makes the same kind of basic errors then his inbox will light up like the Oxford Street Xmas lights, but as it stands:

New Badge is OK....it gets better each time I look at it.
New Shirts are OK. All black kit...........I like it. The coloured one.....jury's still out.
ST prices are OK...in fact, they are outstanding VFM.
10 Black cabs is 10000000% better than anything since the free VB in 2005
Video and ad at Wembley is 10000000% better than anything since the free VB in 2005
2 Games on the road in 2012 will have cheap travel options to wherever they are played......good move by the club IMO.

Yes, some people would prefer to have a reserved seat. As I have said, email or even call Gus to discuss this option. I am sure that he will listen to reasoned opinions as to why reserved seating should be reintroduced, but if he doesn't, then that's his decision.

I am the biggest critic of the club for their off-field shennanigans, but as before in 2006 and again when Carly joined, I will at least have the good manners to let them make massive mistakes before I rip into them.

Listy, if you and Nigel really have issues with the club then for gods sake, call him and let him know. It's fans like you 2, the sidcup massive etc that he needs to find.....don't just whine on the boards, it does no good at all.

I feel more enthusiastic and hopefull about the club than at any other time I have followed them.


I recently found an old programme from February 2002 v Castleford in the Nutrigrain CC..........

We were called the London Broncos
It was our first match at GP (and it must have been my first game)
IIRC it was 12 quid a ticket or a tenner on the Ealing road terrace
Replica Shirts were 50 quid each
We had Cowgirls
ST's started at 99 Quid and you could pay more for a "gold" membership if you wanted
Car Parking was a fiver
There was a new initiative...A supporters Action Group
London League Publications sponsored "away tries"
StormingBronco was a miserable old git


We Lost....but I was still hooked!
Stuart Cummings was the first of many Referees I "shared an opinion" with


That season 3,803 was the average gate....I'd be happy with that this year.

10 years later....not a lot has changed

Fully agree! it is no use is fighting each other here on the forum, I have found Gus really helpful and willing to listen each time I have approached him.

That first season I remember so well at Charlton, I liked it!

Can you remember the marketing guy then, he was so good and helpful, I would often have to leave before raffles were drawn to make the journey home 225 miles, but he always let me know the results, he had such enthusiasm I can see his face but not remember his name!!!!

I'm still a bit confused. So season ticket holders are guaranteed one of these 3000 or so seats?

Probably guaranteed one of 14000 on a first come first sit basis for every game.

With the Lv it is more like 5000.

No, sorry, I mean the middle 3 blocks of the East (c. 1300 seats?) and West (c. 1400 seats?). Do I understand correctly that these blocks are for season ticket holders only?

Know idea but I am sure someone will post the answer, shortly.

Its a free for all isn't it? Ludicrous that these details aren't clear.

The reason that it is a "free for all" is because ST holders are to be encouraged to bring loads of "newbies" to games....if I have a reserved seat and I am a ST holder, my "newbies" do not get to sit with me, as there are other reserved seats surounding me.

I repeat, email or call Gus and express your concerns about this, but as I understand it, if a ST holder brings a certain amount of newbies along over the course of the 2012 season, then they will get a ST in 2013 for 50 quid

To be honest, I don't expect Gus to have to liase with fans over these sorts of decisions. They are decisions that should be made at the top level of club management, and they should be correct from the outset. I should sincerely hope he wouldn't listen to any of us if we moaned, nor caved into pressure if there were a few of us (unless it was a spectacularly bad error of judgement). The club are hardly going to relent and change their whole policy on this are they? I'm not going to waste my time penning an e-mail to Gus, only to recieve a reply with him justifying his decision. It won't get me anywhere, it won't get him anywhere.

I wish to contact him over a completely unrelated matter. What his e-mail? There is nothing on the temporary website offering supporters to contact anyone at the club, never mind him. This launch was apparently planned for weeks/months, yet nobody could bother knocking together a proper website. Pathetic, no?

When they did the launch they gave the address as "chiefexec@londonbroncosrl.com" , I wrote to him on that address on 03.11.11, and as yet have to receive a reply. Others have said he's a good listener, it would appear he needs to work on the other aspect of conversing

It is chiefexec@londonbroncosrl.com. I have spoken to him about saving Buck & Dusty he said nothing doing. But he changed his mind after a few people asked him to. He is our version of the 'listening bank' if your idea has any merit he will listen.

It is chiefexec@londonbroncosrl.com. I have spoken to him about saving Buck & Dusty he said nothing doing. But he changed his mind after a few people asked him to. He is our version of the 'listening bank' if your idea has any merit he will listen.

Gus.Mackay@londonbroncosrl.com is where I send my thoughts. Listy, I can see that some would like to have an assured seat whilst others aren't that fussed. Every time I have brought someone to a game, I have tried to sit with them and explain the in's and out's of the game as it unfolds, something I would not be able to do if I was going to sit in my allocated seat. As I have said, there is an incentive for ST holders to bring new people and get 50% off the 2013 ST cost and as such, there are no allocated seats as this would prevent these newbies from sitting with the invitee. The Stoop holds 14,800 and change.......we average about 21% of that.....there will be plenty of seats. A quick glance at the stadium view would show about 8k seats between the 40 meter lines alone....and given we have only had 1 or possibly 2 attendances of that size in the SL era, it's not really a problem as such, more a reason to have a moan.

Gus.Mackay@londonbroncosrl.com is where I send my thoughts. Listy, I can see that some would like to have an assured seat whilst others aren't that fussed. Every time I have brought someone to a game, I have tried to sit with them and explain the in's and out's of the game as it unfolds, something I would not be able to do if I was going to sit in my allocated seat. As I have said, there is an incentive for ST holders to bring new people and get 50% off the 2013 ST cost and as such, there are no allocated seats as this would prevent these newbies from sitting with the invitee. The Stoop holds 14,800 and change.......we average about 21% of that.....there will be plenty of seats. A quick glance at the stadium view would show about 8k seats between the 40 meter lines alone....and given we have only had 1 or possibly 2 attendances of that size in the SL era, it's not really a problem as such, more a reason to have a moan.

I also e-mailed with no reply, but seems pretty clear now from discussion on here that seating will be a free for all arrangement.

yep.....and with 1,100 ST holders fighting for the 3,000 seats on half way or the 2,500 either side before the 40 meter line, let's hope the club have extra stewards in riot gear ready



It will be lik an episode of......

If I am close to being right about the relevant capacities of each stand, then the 3 areas at the centre of the 2 main stands is enough to hold our current average total attendance and the 2 centre bist are enough to hold all out ST holders from last year....if we add 40% as Gus wants, you will still get a seat within the 40 meter line......as it is,I have suggested Gus considers charging anyone who wants it an extra 75 notes for an allocated seat in area AE or FT.

I don't particularly have a problem with the arrangement but was just trying to understand the differences between the ticket options. More than happy to save the money as once the West Stand was open I didn't use my allocated seat last year. However, info on the packages was somewhat confusing and needed clearing up. Folks on here have done that now.

Gutters, we all understand the numbers game. That isn't why we think this is a bad idea and you know it. It isn't difficult to accommodate everyone. Even 2 allocated blocks would have done nicely. How many other professional sports teams have offered their seating in this way? I would be shocked if it was above 0.

At the end of the day the club has dropped abollock on this one. No one thought it through. Two blocks on the halfway line unallocated at a premium rate would have been fine, then if you want to bring your mates and pay a bit more no problem. I suspect that the prison warder is on holiday after building up to the enormous announcement last wek and when he gets back hopefully he will sort this out.

GF you don't know the half of it will pm you soon.