Hill is retiring.

Shame. He looked a class player

I can understand why some of your fans would be concerned with a potential Dorn for Hill movement - Luke is a player i have long admired and he has done a good job for us this season (although his defence is highly suspect!).

The trouble with Dorn as a replacement is that he is a good individual but has limited organizational qualities - Hill on the other hand still looks like a world-class ball-player to me.

I'd have thought though that you'd put your faith in McDermott - if he does bring Dorn in i'm sure he'll balance things out elsewhere.

Well said that man.

I would accept that atmosphere is top of the agenda, but amenities are surely something that should be thought of, and that usually comes with a telegenic ground.

The Halliwell-Jones ticks all those boxes; seating for those who want it and standing for those who want it. Mix in modern facilities and you get an old-fashioned feel but you won't have someone ing in your pocket (or whatever the Ken Bates quote on modern stadia was)

I'm sorry but The Jungle is a dump and if we want to move the game forward we need to looking for more. Cas know its a hole as well and are actively seeking a new stadium. We may as well move back to 3 points for a try FFS.

Your just an absolute numpty mate. Even your own fans think so, but hey everyones free to there own opinion, even if it is slightly deluded.

'tis true what he says though mate, our ground is a laughing stock in SL and the sooner we move to our new stadium, the better.

It may well cost you your SL status. We will find out next Tue

Lets not talk silly - No matter how bad our stadium is, Its superior to wakefields - As is our Support and youth system - I arent worried about the franchise decision

Thanks. I still enjoyed my trip there this year regardless.

I hope Castleford get a new stadium and the franchise they deserve

You seem to be assuming only one of you will drop out!!!

drop two teams, to bring in 4 inferior teams? The rfl's stupid but there not crazy.

I think Cas' only hope for a franchise and the only reason they would not get one is the build status of the new ground.

If the land is being cleared (I hear it is), and the money is in place then I have no problem with Cas retaining their place.

The issue is not what you have or don't have alone.

It is that you (currently) don't have a premium competition ground and that Cas is just a town. No interest to a national newspaper, etc.

I have alot of time for Cas as they have a good style of play and a strong belief in youth systems. Show that their is a new stadium on the way and they are a shoe-in, else they are at the mercy of the likes of Celtic, Toulouse and Salford who offer much more over a longer term.

Remember it is what you can offer to SL, not what SL can offer to you. The RFL have learnt their lesson with PSG; Toulouse is the heartlands of French RL and Celtic is all alone with no rugby union in the area and a public that wants it, and is on the doorstep to Cardiff

much as i love wheldon road, i know our future is reliant on the new stadium. They have started clearing the land for that new stadium as you say and naming rights have already been sold. Both salford and celtic are inferior grounds to ours and would be in new grounds no faster than castleford. Looking back my previous post did sound a little arogant but no team that may replace us has better youth development or attendances.
Widnes and touluse may have better facilities but such an advantage will only exist for a couple of years. Tolouse may have the advantage at that point of being an expansion club, but i cannot see what widnes would have to offer more than castleford.

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If the RFL kick Cas out then someone needs to bomb Red Hall.

Do you have Osama on speed dial, just in case?

I think that's yet to be proven.

Not having a go at Cas as they are a traditional heartlands club but are they really what the future of RL is all about.

Forget tradition, forget history(why you ask), the future of RL is about clubs spread far and wide in modern stadiums with big crowds.

Has a smallish town in Yorkshire surrounded by other RL teams got that potential?

If you compare RL with football traditional teams have dropped divisions over time and the game has moved on. Big crowds, nice stadiums , plenty of sponsorship etc That is the blue print for success in the premier league

I really cant see the likes of Hudds, Cas, Wakey etc all being in the top league in the future. Maybe this time, but longer term, I'm not sure

We may disappear as well, who knows where the game will go.

Try reading stats like these, Cas is an area of tallent and always has been, how many players are from around Cas at this moment, How many have been brought through as youngsters by cas ?

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Does Danny Orr, John Wells for you ring a bell ?
players at Bradford, Leeds, Wakefield, etc etc, do i need to go on ?

Speedy I had a feeling you would respond. My post was about so many "small" clubs in a smallish area and there potential, not Cas in isolation. I accept you produce players more readily than most but that isn't necessarily the only criteria for the game in terms of individual clubs.

Man Utd possibly the largest football club doesn't have a team full of Mancunians. That doesn't appear to hold them back.

I suspect it all depends on where the RFL believes they can take the game. 5 SL clubs within 20 miles I doubt is the future.

Who knows

Where are these clubs you speak off? When they turn up and offer more than Cas currently do it might be time to consider the future of town clubs like Cas.

Cas will be in a modern stadium playing in front of big crowds (we already have decent crowds despite a crap stadium and no real success) within the next couple of years, our geographical location in a congested heartland is of no relevence provided we can compete and offer more than any alternative.

Does having 10 NRL clubs from the Sydney area (some with equally poor stadiums as our own clubs) stop that competition being vibrant or hold the game back over there?



It hasn't stopped smallish town teams in Lancashire and Merseyside from being the best club sides in the world at points in the games recent history.

What can you see on the horizon that makes you think northern towns won't have the potential to be successful in the long term?



The Premiership is a multi-billion pound industry where one club's profit, turnover, fanbase and tv revenue is worth more than the entire sport of Rugby League.

Rugby League is a sport with limited appeal in certain parts of the country and manufacturing clubs just so we can attempt to show the world we're a national sport played and supported nationwide by significant numbers is worthless and has a provern track record of failure.

Let them come, let them build and let them leave northern town teams for dead, until them let's cherish what we have before wanting them to be killed off.



Why not? and do you include Warrington or any other northern town teams in that group?



You may, but i'm not arrogant enough to dissmiss your club like many others frequently do and i wish you nothing but continued growth for the sake of the game.

I fully agree with the(some) points you have raised. I believe next Tue will give us all an indication of where the RFL want SL to go in the next 3 years and possibly beyond.

They have the Celtic C and Toulouse open to them for inclusion. It will be interesting to see if they bring either or both of them in and if so at who's expense, if any.

Accepting RL is not football and never will be in terms of size I believe we should be challenging and exceeding the likes of RU, cricket and Tennis for example.


As for your argument regarding Warrington, no one was more annoyed than me when Maurice made plans for them to merge with Widnes at the beginning of the SL era.





It has hence why they have introduced Melbourne, Titans, Queensland Cowboys, Canberra, Brisbane in the past 25 years, merged (Wests and Balmain)(St George and Illawarra steelers) amongst others, got rid of Norths and are about to relocate Souths out of Sydney- sadly your argument doesn't hold much strength

Anyway back to the topic-Welcome home Dorny you've had 2 seasons with teams that haven't appreciated your talents. Bring back the golden triangle