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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Why do you need to hijack this thread? There is another one on your topic. This thread is about Waisele Ligani Naiqama coming to London.'"
Oh the Irony.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I reckon the Hive is slightly ahead of Scotland as an option
As for bottling anything? Hardly....as I said in the original "homeless" thread, the club are having to renegotiate the contract that they only just negotiated and I implied that homelessness was a potential outcome. You now want me to declare that we will be homeless in 2015 when, no matter how many times you try to say it, that's not what I said!'"
I've never claimed that you said x,y or z only that you have suggested x,y or z in order to later claim you are right. It is a tactic you have repeated again and again and I have watched over the months since I have been on this forum. That you are not prepared to nail your colours to the mast while still claiming you are right is a symptom of this. The Homeless in 2015 thread is a prime example of an indirect claim that you can later treat as confirmation that you are right or later drop.
So rather than repeat yourself, why not actually make an informed opinion and state categorically how likely these claims are in your opinion, because unlike you I think the answers I've received from the club and Hive make the likelyhood of the Broncos being homeless as likely as a move to Scotland.
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| Quote ="meliferra"I've never claimed that you said x,y or z only that you have suggested x,y or z in order to later claim you are right. It is a tactic you have repeated again and again and I have watched over the months since I have been on this forum. That you are not prepared to nail your colours to the mast while still claiming you are right is a symptom of this. The Homeless in 2015 thread is a prime example of an indirect claim that you can later treat as confirmation that you are right or later drop.
So rather than repeat yourself, why not actually make an informed opinion and state categorically how likely these claims are in your opinion, because unlike you I think the answers I've received from the club and Hive make the likelyhood of the Broncos being homeless as likely as a move to Scotland.'"
ghood for you getting a straight answer to the qestion about where home games will be played next year. I have to say, such wonderful news really should be conveyed to the few fans they have left......given the perpencity to announce the signing of a new tea-lady of late, I would expect a twitter/facebook/email/postal and forum announcement shortly.
I take it you are saying that you are 100 percent sure that we can call the hive home next year.
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| Quote ="meliferra"I was right, nothing new to see here.
You really don't get it do you. Clubs announce when they are moving, not when they are staying. Point me to a news story from another club that says 'We will not be moving next season'.
As for tickets? It's a membership so there is no need to advertise a season ticket. Join when you like, leave when you want. I guess you're looking for another news story saying 'We are not selling season tickets'.
Until I see a credible story saying Broncos are leaving (despite telling NYT that they are staying at the Hive ) or that direct debits are being cancelled because the Hive are no longer running ticket sales then this is just hot air.'"
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| Quote ="gutterfax"The homeless comment was a worst case scenario. The club are still negotiating the 2015 arrangement and homelessness is still a possibility.'"
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| Gutters, I believe your thread title was "homeless in 2015" not "homeless in 2015?" So actually I think you made the statement, rather than pose the question for discussion
Wes still coming, looking forward to him playing at the Hive after the re negotiations that may see the club receive the gate receipts, ah hold on that will not be good enough for gf either
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| Quote ="mickyb1234", ah hold on that will not be good enough for gf either'"
Oh dear!
If the income from 2014 ticket sales isn't enough to satisfy AK then it poses the question of how much rent he would deem satisfactory? Ian Lenegan used to say an attendee at a game was worth £10 to the club once discounts and freebies were taken into account. Using that figure then £166,400 "isn't enough"........that's pretty close to the rent we were paying at the stoop. Could we end up with 66% less fans and yet paying the same rent in 2015? Would you deem that satisfactory Michael!
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| I have to say that the move to the Hive has been bonkers. If we go on the official figures then we have dropped about 1500 people per game which would surely cover the rent at the Stoop.
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| So you are not happy that the gate receipts go to AK now you are saying you would not be happy that the gate receipts would be going to the club! Inter interesting dilema. Convenient that youdodged the comment about being homeless.
And let's be serious with the season we have had is anyone suggesting that the 1500 would still be coming if we were still at the stoop?
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| I surrender. this was a thread about the signing of a potentially good player. I have now had to read through endless posts about the Hive, will we won't we marketingetc. every thread is the same after 6 or so posts we end up with the same blah, blah blah
I am leaving the site ! will still support the cub and the team just fed up of this constant stream of c***
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"I have to say that the move to the Hive has been bonkers. If we go on the official figures then we have dropped about 1500 people per game which would surely cover the rent at the Stoop.'"
Planned and executed properly the move could have worked. What we actually had was a deal that saw TK taking no risk and DH chucking our SL chances under a bus. Any idiot should have seen that crowds would nose dive with such a pitiful squad. The intended format of the deal was never likely to survive the first season. So much for laying roots in a new home .
Lets not forget that without the seemingly obsessive distraction of the move (which even then only materialised at the 11th hour) we could have perhaps assembled a squad that would have retained our Super League status and maintained (if not grown) our crowds.
Sorry if some people don't find that interesting but it is management ineptitude of the highest order. The organ grinder remains in place.
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| Folks: How about we debate JUST "Wes Naiqama to London?" on this thread from now on and place all follow-ups to other recent posts on to the "Moving from The Stoop to The Hive" thread that I'm about to create?
Sorry, I don't have Admin privileges so can't do this tidily.
Brian2, please stay with us.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Folks: How about we debate JUST "Wes Naiqama to London?" on this thread from now on and place all follow-ups to other recent posts on to the "Moving from The Stoop to The Hive" thread that I'm about to create?
Sorry, I don't have Admin privileges so can't do this tidily.
Brian2, please stay with us.'"
Or you all just ignore Gutterfax !!!!....as he has said before...IGNORE HIM!!!!!!
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| Quote ="the rugbyman"Or you all just ignore Gutterfax !!!!....as he has said before...IGNORE HIM!!!!!!'"
Then who can they whinge about as they worship at the altar of st David of swinton?
We've signed some decent if ageing stars for next year........which if great if you are one of the handful if fans who will bother next year.........broncos fans are becoming as rare as hens teeth and I am sad to say more train spotterish and delusional with each turn of the page.
As for ignoring me..........as opposed to leaving the forum? Leaving with a flourish is far more dramatic.......
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| I will be there as I have for the last 34 years and .... Oh sorry I'm trying to ignore you
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| Quote ="the rugbyman"I will be there as I have for the last 34 years and .... Oh sorry I'm trying to ignore you'"
...try harder
By the way......where is "there"?
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| Quote ="brian2"I surrender. this was a thread about the signing of a potentially good player. I have now had to read through endless posts about the Hive, will we won't we marketingetc. every thread is the same after 6 or so posts we end up with the same blah, blah blah
I am leaving the site ! will still support the cub and the team just fed up of this constant stream of c***'"
gutterfax is one of the reasons why this site is so bad. The moderators seem to be scared of him because they let him hijack threads to talk about crap unrelated to the thread title. I wish the bored and boring senior retiree would leave New Zealand and go to Syria to report on ISIS from their zones of atrocity.
His antagonist melliferra is no better and should be crippled by amputation of his typing hands for wasting everyone's time by arguing with the gutterman.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"His antagonist melliferra is no better and should be crippled by amputation of his typing hands for wasting everyone's time by arguing with the gutterman.'"
Sorry for wasting your time. If I'm wasting others time then I apologise to them as well.
You are right I should just ignore GF and let his comments go, but I am weak willed so you will need to come and perform the amputation yourself.
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| Quote ="meliferra"Sorry for wasting your time. If I'm wasting others time then I apologise to them as well.'"
You don't waste my time,
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| Quote ="meliferra"Sorry for wasting your time. If I'm wasting others time then I apologise to them as well.
You are right I should just ignore GF and let his comments go, but I am weak willed so you will need to come and perform the amputation yourself.'"
i quite enjoy YOUR comments!
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| Careful we are going off thread
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| Melf you carry on mate, as you say you are fairly new to this whole rugby league lark so I ain't gonna criticise a convert to the game for any interest they show in my game.
anyhow back to wes, anyone know when he is arriving
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| Someone somewhere had commented that Cordoba was already over here training. However he was not attached to a club. I suspect that Wes and others who are contracted (at whatever level) this year won't arrive until end of October. Isn't November normal start for pre-season training.
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| Quote ="Southern Reiver"Someone somewhere had commented that Cordoba was already over here training. However he was not attached to a club. I suspect that Wes and others who are contracted (at whatever level) this year won't arrive until end of October. Isn't November normal start for pre-season training.'"
Normally, if the players are not involved in international competition. Fortunately for London Fiji did not qualify for the Four Nations and so Waisele Ligani Naiqama will be available in November.
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