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| Quote ="northernbloke"Ok just for you buzza.
Well done Danny Ward for being able to adapt and come up with other options when the original game plan went out the window.
Maybe his original plan was the deep fat fryer'"
That win was all about the effort of the players though Danny Ward can take credit for building such a determined team.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"As for the yellow, had it been the other way, put money on no one would have been questioning it! VR gets to see it a number of times, and it did look like a deliberate lift of the leg rather than poor tackle technique.'"
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| Behind the sticks like most.
Having just had chance to watch the re play, the fact he was pulling the leg sideways as well as up is the action that probably got the VR looking again,
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Behind the sticks like most.
Having just had chance to watch the re play, the fact he was pulling the leg sideways as well as up is the action that probably got the VR looking again,'"
So blinkered towards referee's even the Sky team said it was deliberate roll and Bird should have been penilised. I am sure you only side with the referees to wind everybody up.
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| What a hard fought game! yes tense at times, but the effort can't be faulted we completely got under their skins. Leeds is so important now, we can beat them at our last home game.
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| Well played London, regardless of what happens in the next few games you have done yourselves and your supporters proud. I'll be totally honest and like many more never expected the level of performance you have put in this season.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Behind the sticks like most,'"
Good stuff just didnāt see you there.
My immediate reaction on Bird was he literally dived forward. Reinforced by the video.
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| Get real, olsi had his leg up in the air and pulling sideways as in spreading his legs it's like a chicken wing tackle, why did bird dive forward to stop an inguinal ligament injury.
Not backing the refs am looking at what happened, telling point what olsi didnt complain he knew it was poor. If yr Ginny pull the foot dont pull sideways its dangerpus
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| Was in the stand behind the sticks on the right hand side looking towards the big screen, sat with catalans fans.
Yellow card aside, it was good to be in catalans again and winning, twice in a season out there is some going.
Let's hope next season we are debating the same ref issues against em eh!
Still hoping we can stay up, Toulouse pull it out of the bag in championship playoffs and then see how committed Toronto are to the game. Be interesting how the RFL react to that scenario
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Get real, olsi had his leg up in the air and pulling sideways as in spreading his legs it's like a chicken wing tackle, why did bird dive forward to stop an inguinal ligament injury.
Not backing the refs am looking at what happened, telling point what olsi didnt complain he knew it was poor. If yr Ginny pull the foot dont pull sideways its dangerpus'"
Olsi didn't complain? Apart from openly stating he dived on twitter. You're usual barometer is player didn't complain but on this occasion he did and quite publicly therefore I suggest you get real, even the commentary noted the dive. Bird tucked his head and did a forward roll. Have you seen a replay or are you just being obtuse as usual?
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| NB it is not unusual for you to side with the refs but you are way off mark this time. Seems only you, the VR and the ref were the only people not to notice Bird cheated AGAIN. It is not the first time he has done this and while we have such inept refs and people like you who will follow the ref come hell or high water he will keep on doing it. Why for once dont you try and support your team players instead of erronous refs. I dont notice you supporting Brock Lamb who had exactly the same tackle against him hence we managed to get a penalty which Dixon conveted but no yellow card to Cats.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Get real, olsi had his leg up in the air and pulling sideways as in spreading his legs it's like a chicken wing tackle, why did bird dive forward to stop an inguinal ligament injury.
Not backing the refs am looking at what happened, telling point what olsi didnt complain he knew it was poor. If yr Ginny pull the foot dont pull sideways its dangerpus'"
The old Bird clearly mugged you as well.
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| I am a fan! And I do support the players but when they play stupid I will happily criticise.
Exactly the same tackle? Err go have a look again two very different tackles!
Not defending bird but I will stick by fact olsi was stupid, and yes 2 paid officials got it right on that occasion. Had he not pulled the leg sideways it would not have been a card.
Back to the old story, though it's the refs fault, no it's the players fault, no ref has ever been offside had hand in the ruck thrown the punch, get where am coming from.
You want an honest opinion I dont see olsi as a dirty player at all, but that's a paul Rowley trained incident.
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| Elliot Kear tackle could easily have been yellow, its noticable that's being ignored or is it expected to blindly support the players even after foul play, not long after bird went on a card I hear no one complaining about that.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"I am a fan! And I do support the players but when they play stupid I will happily criticise.
Exactly the same tackle? Err go have a look again two very different tackles!
Not defending bird but I will stick by fact olsi was stupid, and yes 2 paid officials got it right on that occasion. Had he not pulled the leg sideways it would not have been a card.
Back to the old story, though it's the refs fault, no it's the players fault, no ref has ever been offside had hand in the ruck thrown the punch, get where am coming from.
You want an honest opinion I dont see olsi as a dirty player at all, but that's a paul Rowley trained incident.'"
But Olsi has also said he dived whilst you claim Olsi didn't complain. You just say whatever suits your argument, ref in real time I can see why he would have give it but you state player didn't complain and when advised he did you just gloss over. You're barometer is broken and you still claim all is well, I give up.
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| Great win again keeping us in the race when it seemed maybe we had run out of steam
Leeds HKR and Wake to go in in our hands.
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| Quote Not defending bird but I will stick by fact olsi was stupid, and yes 2 paid officials got it right on that occasion. '"
Repeat to you NB this is incorrect over 100 people on FB from neutrals to club fans said Bird cheated and should be punished but you and your reffing buddies are the only ones to disagree. Like I said get behind the team instead of constantly chipping away at how they commit errors or your words 'he was stupid' No one is perfect and this team go all out to get the results. They dont lack commitment or effort (apart from Salford game) we have seen this game on game and every person in every team is allowed one off game just so happens our team all decided to do it the same day. Would you like it when you had all to play for and someone critisised you publically for an error. No I dont think so. DO you ever make errors in your job and have it spread over FB no I didnt think so. I
agree these are professional sportsman and it goes with the territory but they are also human and constantly pointing out the error of their ways does not help confidence. They have a lot to play for to keep us up and need support. Danny Ward and Jamie Langley will let them all know in the privacy of the dressing room what they expect and I may sound naive but I dont think chipping away at a player helps anyone
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| Quote ="itsmeagain"Repeat to you NB this is incorrect over 100 people on FB from neutrals to club fans said Bird cheated and should be punished but you and your reffing buddies are the only ones to disagree. Like I said get behind the team instead of constantly chipping away at how they commit errors or your words 'he was stupid' No one is perfect and this team go all out to get the results. They dont lack commitment or effort apart from Salford game we have seen this game on game and every person in every team is allowed one off game just so happens our team all decided to do it the same day. Would you like it when you had all to play for and someone critisised you publically for an error. No I dont think so. DO you ever make errors in your job and have it spread over FB no I didnt think so. I
agree these are professional sportsman and it goes with the territory but they are also human and constantly pointing out the error of their ways does not help confidence. They have a lot to play for to keep us up and need support. Danny Ward and Jamie Langley will let them all know in the privacy of the dressing room what they expect and I may sound naive but I dont think chipping away at a player helps anyone'"
It's ok for NB to bag the players (as he's done with Brock also) but don't go after his beloved refs, heaven forbid they never do anything wrong.
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| Quote ="Traffic"Olsi didn't complain? Apart from openly stating he dived on twitter. You're usual barometer is player didn't complain but on this occasion he did and quite publicly therefore I suggest you get real, even the commentary noted the dive. Bird tucked his head and did a forward roll. Have you seen a replay or are you just being obtuse as usual?'"
Spot on
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| Quote ="Traffic"It's ok for NB to bag the players (as he's done with Brock also) but don't go after his beloved refs, heaven forbid they never do anything wrong.'"
Do you expect any different from the ref's #1 fanboy ?
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| Care to explain why the panel used no case to answer rather than sin bin sufficient or NFA? Panel noted the lifting of leg but does not move opponent in the motion of which opponent falls, is that an elaborate way of noting a dive or did two paid officials still get it right?
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| FFS!!!...Surely anyone with any sense of reason could tell he threw himself head over heels...Find it hard to see any other point of view...He got Olsi yellow carded by faking it...It was so obvious that he would look a cheat on TV that the man has obviously lost all self respect...
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| 2 paid officials got it right
Sin bin sufficient no further action, that's generally how it works
Not every sin bin or red card results in further action. Panel noted lifting of the leg which is against the laws of the game!
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| Quote ="northernbloke"2 paid officials got it right
Sin bin sufficient no further action, that's generally how it works
Not every sin bin or red card results in further action. Panel noted lifting of the leg which is against the laws of the game!'"
Doesn't say sin bin sufficient it states no case to answer, that's a marked difference to NFA or sin bin sufficient.
Care to show me where, in the laws its stated that lifting a leg is against the laws?
Keep in mind now the panel has stated that the lifted leg had nothing to do with the way Bird went over so please show me why Olsi lifting Birds leg is against the laws of the game and merits a yellow card?
Whilst you're there care to explain how the first tackle (on Lamb) that you stated was so different and not worthy of a card merited a 2 match ban? Clearly the two tackles were very different, unfortunately the ref and VR (given you've claimed both made the decision for Ols, when you state earlier it's the VR advised the ref) got them the wrong way around.
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| Quote ="Traffic"Doesn't say sin bin sufficient it states no case to answer, that's a marked difference to NFA or sin bin sufficient.
Care to show me where, in the laws its stated that lifting a leg is against the laws?
Keep in mind now the panel has stated that the lifted leg had nothing to do with the way Bird went over so please show me why Olsi lifting Birds leg is against the laws of the game and merits a yellow card?
Whilst you're there care to explain how the first tackle (on Lamb) that you stated was so different and not worthy of a card merited a 2 match ban? Clearly the two tackles were very different, unfortunately the ref and VR (given you've claimed both made the decision for Ols, when you state earlier it's the VR advised the ref) got them the wrong way around.'"
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