I think they couldn't raise a team. Jon can keep my tenner (but I would like the £3 booking fee back - or go to him).

To repeat what I've just posted on the Crusaders board - I could get from where I live just outside Newtown to London now without any problems, I reckon PP is right.

The Crusaders excuse doesn't stand up, it's not the weather stopping them.
Why don't they just admit they can't raise a team?

16 Jan 2010 Wrexham General (WRX) to London Marylebone (MYB)

Depart Wrexham 11:00 Arrive London 14:19

They could have let the train take the strain!

Please can we have some decent excuses! Jon deserves better!

Hull and sunderland are both due in the capital for football fixtures tomorrow.not heard of any Problems concerning travel to these games from the north

If you look at this logically (cynically) to play us Crusaders would have left Fri-No training, played Sat (possibly looked poor due to lack of training/players still arriving), not trained Sun.

The other option to them is train hard, Fri, Sat, Sun with all players they have got- more beneficial to team plays, moves etc and they don’t get publically exposed by being under cooked

For all this to happen we need an excuse not to play Quins-Bad weather- eff off Nobby

This is p*ss poor from Crusaders and they've badly let Wellsy down. If they were genuinely worried about being undercooked and getting hammered I'm sure we could have come to an arrangement not to field our strongest side for most of the game or something similar, and in any case you'd think they'd want match practice before they take on Leeds in a fortnight. They've got every other day of the week for training sessions.

The cheap train tickets to Neath are on sale for Good Friday. Is it safe to buy them or do I risk wasting my money if they can't fulfil that fixture too?

Has this game been nob(b)led?

I said it another post. That if Crusaders are having trouble getting a fit 17 or more together for this game, then why couldnt they have used some of our players. We know in pre season games that the coach trys to give as many some game time then a normal 17.. so if they were short then why not let them use some of ours this way they all get a good work out and not just 10 minutes on and then off for 15 minutes(or something like that).

I know its a daft idea but its an idea to get some game time under their belts thats all.

How would that reflect on the senior tier of a professional sport-ask yourself

What they have done is keep their shortfall behind closed doors

Im surprised Mac hasn't rang some of his Ex Bulls mates who head up Championship teams and asked if they fancied a game at short notice-Dewsbury, Halifax etc

Why don't the club show a bit more gratitude to "Wellsi" & let him play a Quins/Broncos Past & Present versus a Super League Past & Present match, as a curtain raiser for one of our home games.
I'm sure that Jon would have no problem getting some of his mates from the Super League Era to get together & form a team.
He could then be given a portion of the gate money as a thank you from the club. Perhaps 50% would seem fair to me for his contribution to London Rugby League.
Some of the old players might even be able to instill a "Ner say die attitude" into our current players!

The crusaders won't be getting a penny of my money in future. A shambles.

Doubt that the club could afford to give up such monies. Complete farce at the end of the day, why they wanted to play this joke of a club in the first place is beyond me.

FFS this goes from bad to worse! When Crusaders' move to Wrexham was confirmed it was announced that they'd play 11 SL games in Wrexham with two on the road in South Wales. Shortly afterwards it was reported in the media that the on the road games would be at Neath against Bradford and ourselves.

I was having a beer shortly before Christmas with a friend who supports Wrexham AFC and Warrington Wolves (and, being Welsh, has also seen Crusaders as often as he can since they joined NL2) and he commented that he'd seen no official confirmation of these venues, only media reports. I'm certain I checked both clubs' websites after that and both had our game down as being at Neath. Now ours has it as Wrexham and I couldn't even get onto the Crusaders site as it appears to have gone down! I looked at Crusaders' fixtures on the RFL site and just eight of them are listed as being at Wrexham, with five (against Bradford, Wigan, Castleford, Hull KR and ourselves) as venue "tbc". Given the events of the past few months I suppose it could be played almost anywhere, assuming they haven't collapsed completely and disappeared within the next three months.

I'm beginning to feel really sorry for Widnes now. They were relegated from SL in the name of expansion to make space for Catalans, then they were denied readmission in the name of expansion to accommodate Crusaders only for this farce of a club to land practically on their doorstep!

All the motorways up this end have been clear since last weekend , i've had vans running through to the wirral all week

Sorry to hear about this , Jon has been a good servant to all his clubs

Hats off to Sunderland and Hull and both sets of supporters for braving the arctic weather conditions and making the arduous journey south from the north east for yesterdays premiership games in the capital.Fantastic effort in the circumstances.

This whole thing has a very nasty stink to it. Very poor excuse from Crusaders and highly suspicious as well. Surely it's more to do with having a lack of players than not being able to get to Roehampton. I expect Rosslyn Park are pretty peed off as well, would have been extra bar money for them!

As Neath are at home to Pontypridd, albeit with a 19.45 ko, I doubt very much that we'll play them there (Wrexham, on the other hand, would suit me nicely

).

I looked on the Wrexham AFC website yesterday and there was a news item about Crusaders being unable to travel for our fixture because of the weather. Then there was a subsequent item, posted at a later time, describing how Wrexham supporters had mucked in to shovel tons of snow off the Racecourse Ground pitch in the hope that their match with Stevenage Borough could go ahead. As it happens the pitch was frozen and the match called off on friday morning, but there wouldn't have been much point attempting to make the pitch playable unless Stevenage could travel to Wrexham in the first place. So if Stevenage can travel to Wrexham why couldn't Crusaders do a similar journey in reverse?

Because as others have hinted we may not have been given the real reason for the cancellation.

Quote ="PTB"Because as others have hinted we may not have been given the real reason for the cancellation.'" Well yes, I realise that! I just enjoy grumbling and wanted to highlight what a ridiculous excuse had been offered. A bit more candour from Crusaders might have led to less ill-feeling. As it is they've just made themselves look dishonest as well as useless. Quote ="Paddock Punter"I wouldn't risk it - I think their website has venue TBC and ours has the racecourse ground.'" Just checked both websites again and this is still the case, but this is the article that led me to believe we were playing at Neath. (Comment right at the end.) news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 415204.stm I'm going to try emailing our club for clarification and will post any feedback I get.

Quote ="PTB"Because as others have hinted we may not have been given the real reason for the cancellation.'" Well yes, I realise that! I just enjoy grumbling and wanted to highlight what a ridiculous excuse had been offered. A bit more candour from Crusaders might have led to less ill-feeling. As it is they've just made themselves look dishonest as well as useless. Quote ="Paddock Punter"I wouldn't risk it - I think their website has venue TBC and ours has the racecourse ground.'" Just checked both websites again and this is still the case, but this is the article that led me to believe we were playing at Neath. (Comment right at the end.) news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 415204.stm I'm going to try emailing our club for clarification and will post any feedback I get.

funny old thing had friends get up to Yorks and back from the SW on fri
oohh and another friend got from Glasgow

Lets not kid ourselves-they didnt have a team