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| Quote ="Dettoriman"I wouldnt have Danny Orr anywhere near cas again, he isnt good enough for where we are supposed to be heading - Would be a huge step back'"
Wonder where they are going
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| Quote ="pyeman"Thats your opinion i suppose but for me Orr is a quality half-back, and i dont think there are many cas or quins fans who would disagree.'"
Orr will never come back and that's straight from the horses mouth.
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| Quote ="Chris Brown"Wonder where they are going
At 46-0 down at half time against Saints they have certainly got a long way to go'"
Away at saints and we put up a bit of a fight in the second half
As you found out, They are by far the best side in the comp at the moment - Our result tonight wasnt embarrassing at all
And our club have openly admitted this year is a gap year
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"And our club have openly admitted this year is a gap year'"
Between being in the National League?
A not exactly telegenic stadium and a poor performing team. Not exactly the way to secure a licence for Super League from 2009.
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| Quote ="Londo06"Between being in the National League?
A not exactly telegenic stadium and a poor performing team. Not exactly the way to secure a licence for Super League from 2009.'"
Our stadiums far from the worst in the league and we are working on getting 15,000 seater stadium in the next few years. We are averaging about double the attendance of one team in the league, despite having one of our poorest seasons on the pitch. We have beaten the best two teams in the competion (one of whom we bet with the only 17 fit players we had), and despite being last are only 2 points off one of the biggest teams in the league who spent more money than us and had more time to prepare for the season. We also lost our playmaker and best player, a player who is in with a good chance of getting man of steel. Whilst doing this we have blooded a number of youngsters, one of whom has been called up into the international squad and come the world cup we have another thats it in with a chance, both castleford lads as well.
Whilst doing this we have avoided going bust or having to lose our identity and be absorbed by a team from a rival code.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Our stadiums far from the worst in the league and we are working on getting 15,000 seater stadium in the next few years. We are averaging about double the attendance of one team in the league, despite having one of our poorest seasons on the pitch. We have beaten the best two teams in the competion (one of whom we bet with the only 17 fit players we had), and despite being last are only 2 points off one of the biggest teams in the league who spent more money than us and had more time to prepare for the season. We also lost our playmaker and best player, a player who is in with a good chance of getting man of steel. Whilst doing this we have blooded a number of youngsters, one of whom has been called up into the international squad and come the world cup we have another thats it in with a chance, both castleford lads as well.
Whilst doing this we have avoided going bust or having to lose our identity and be absorbed by a team from a rival code.'"
I can assume that the last reference was a barbed comment, I almost thought that's true, what's your point. I then realised that was a comment linked to London, a little off though as we have not actually done any of those things.
My reply to Dettoriman was more to do with their choice of words than my feelings on Cas and their licence situation, which are; if you can prove you are moving towards a new stadium then you are halfway there as there are a number of quality young British backs at the club along with Joe Westerman.
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| Quote ="Colly2"Let's resolve this.
Dummy halves and first receivers guide the team around the pitch. The dummy half and first receiver move the team from tackle 1 to tackle 5 when the team is coming out of its own half. HP and Hill have very little to do here.
Second receivers play a larger part in directing the attack when in the opposition half. HP occasionally has a role here, Hill often does. But Orr and Randall (Rinaldi) are still the keys. If you don't believe me, look at the try assists stacked up by Orr and Randall and compare them with Hill and Paul. I doubt that HP even rates on the radar here. To sum up, Hill is often a 'go to' player but only when HRL are on attack in the oppo's half. But organisers do the tough stuff too - they guide the team away from its own line early in the tackle count.
Luke Dorn. The lad has a fantastic turn of pace and a decent right-left step but he also creates tries for others. Again, check his try assists against Scott Hill's. Dorn is ahead I think.'"
Unless you consider distribution to be the same as organisation that organisation doesn't really resolve anything. It doesn't help that there is far more fluidity between the different roles the halves play in the modern game.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Thats your opinion i suppose but for me Orr is a quality half-back, and i dont think there are many cas or quins fans who would disagree.'"
Or Hull fans for that matter!
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| Quote ="Londo06"Between being in the National League?
A not exactly telegenic stadium and a poor performing team. Not exactly the way to secure a licence for Super League from 2009.'"
We have no worries on the License mate, I can assure you on that.
We have a fantastic youth setup, a loyal fan base, And a new stadium that will be announced shortly and will be ready for mid 2010
We are looking at some decent players for next year both here and abroad
Ryan Hudson and Ben Cockayne are signed along with James Evans
Rumour has it FuiFui MoiMoi is also signed and we are in for a number more players, One of which you will know very well as Feleti Mateo (Sp) - And i dont for one minute think we will sign him but Darren Lockyer was talking to terry matterson this week
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"We have no worries on the License mate, I can assure you on that.
We have a fantastic youth setup, a loyal fan base, And a new stadium that will be announced shortly and will be ready for mid 2010
We are looking at some decent players for next year both here and abroad
Ryan Hudson and Ben Cockayne are signed along with James Evans
Rumour has it FuiFui MoiMoi is also signed and we are in for a number more players, One of which you will know very well as Feleti Mateo (Sp) - And i dont for one minute think we will sign him but Darren Lockyer was talking to terry matterson this week'"
I may be talking out of turn, as I don't have much - if any - knowlwdge of happenings at Cas, but I'd have thought that Lockyer would be a more likely candidate to come to the UK than Mateo.
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"We have no worries on the License mate, I can assure you on that.
We have a fantastic youth setup, a loyal fan base, And a new stadium that will be announced shortly and will be ready for mid 2010
We are looking at some decent players for next year both here and abroad
Ryan Hudson and Ben Cockayne are signed along with James Evans
Rumour has it FuiFui MoiMoi is also signed and we are in for a number more players, One of which you will know very well as =redFeleti Mateo (Sp) - And i dont for one minute think we will sign him but Darren Lockyer was talking to terry matterson this week'"
Dream on!!! ,he is one of the hottest properties in the NRL,really dont think he will be coming back to SL!
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| Quote ="Londo06"Between being in the National League?
A not exactly telegenic stadium and a poor performing team. Not exactly the way to secure a licence for Super League from 2009.'"
Dunno how quins can talk or should it be broncos? As the broncos you were allowed more money to allow you to try and get yourself a respectable position and you failed miserably and then the rfl took pity on you and let you declare bankrupt, change your name and everything was ok again
Don't go on about teams struggling because they're having to do it the proper way without the rfl helping them out every 2 seconds
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| Jeez,that semi-final defeat still rankles,eh??
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| Quote ="abel711989"Dunno how quins can talk or should it be broncos? As the broncos you were allowed more money to allow you to try and get yourself a respectable position and you failed miserably and then the rfl took pity on you and let you declare bankrupt, change your name and everything was ok again
Don't go on about teams struggling because they're having to do it the proper way without the rfl helping them out every 2 seconds
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Woah, someone from Hull can't say anything about clubs going bust
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| Quote ="abel711989"
Don't go on about teams struggling because they're having to do it the proper way without the rfl helping them out every 2 seconds
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When did the RFL help us out?
I have replied to thousands of knuckle dragger posts like this and I have never had an accurate reply to this question. The RFL didn't ever help us out, never mind every 2 seconds. We are Harlequins Rugby League, a seperate entity to Harlequins Rugby Union, so we haven't been absorbed into anything. When the Broncos holding company was folded at the request of the taxman, the Superleague chairmen voted us straight back in, not the RFL. We had a bigger quota then everyone else for the development years, but now have more "home grown" players on our books than some some of the "bigger" clubs and our reserves are sitting 4th in their table with the team made up by a cockney majority. We have one of the brightest prospects in the game on our books and if he hadn't broken his hand this season, he would surely be on the plane for Australia. The number of school children playing league in the London area is growing and all of this is down to the community programmes run by the Club.
If you can provide me with documented proof that the RFL bail us out all the time, then please post it....otherwise, stop blurting out the usual bull whinge and concentrate on facts.
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| It's in todays edition of League Weekly on the Dave `Nosey ` Parker columnhe says it was virtually confirmed to him by an official at the Jungle (that Luke Dorn is coming back to London), who then proceeded to ask where he had got his information from, as Dave says he would never divulge that.
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| A bit disappointed by this news. Nothing against Luke Dorn at all, but Scott Hill is very difficult to replace. We were (are!) lucky to have an ex-Aussie international of his class (injuries notwithstanding). I enjoyed watching Dorn score tries when he was with Broncos - but he isn't even in Cas's starting side for a reason.
Will he take up an import spot?
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| Quote ="abel711989"Dunno how quins can talk or should it be broncos? As the broncos you were allowed more money to allow you to try and get yourself a respectable position and you failed miserably and then the rfl took pity on you and let you declare bankrupt, change your name and everything was ok again
Don't go on about teams struggling because they're having to do it the proper way without the rfl helping them out every 2 seconds
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My initial post was said in jest, as I've said earlier.
My only problem with Cas is the Stadium and someone claiming they saw 2008 as a 'gap year'. The town has loyal fans who watched in numbers in 2005 and 2007, a good youth setup, etc.
I won't bother pointing out that you are going with the version of events from one singular journalist on that version of events.
Cas prove that they are on the way to a new stadium, they can see themselves as edging towards the likes of Warrington, Leeds, Hull FC, etc as those who are guaranteed a licence.
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| Quote ="abel711989"Dunno how quins can talk or should it be broncos? As the broncos you were allowed more money to allow you to try and get yourself a respectable position and you failed miserably and then the rfl took pity on you and let you declare bankrupt, change your name and everything was ok again
Don't go on about teams struggling because they're having to do it the proper way without the rfl helping them out every 2 seconds
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It doesnt matter if it comes from a Quins fan or your mum. Wakey and Cas are the two most vulnerable SL clubs. Deal with it.
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| Quote ="Londo06"My only problem with Cas is the Stadium and someone claiming they saw 2008 as a 'gap year'. '"
There is nothing wrong with Cas's stadium, a great old fashioned RL ground, god help us if they are all replaced by souless JJB clones.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"When did the RFL help us out?'"
Erm, they owned us for a short period in the Crusaders days just before the Broncos take over...
Don't remember them giving us a big wedge of cash though.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Erm, they owned us for a short period in the Crusaders days just before the Broncos take over...
Don't remember them giving us a big wedge of cash though.'"
Because they didn't....BG, I asked a troll the question, not friggin "mastermindchampoinchosensubjestrugbyleagueinlondon"...but thanks for the input
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Erm, they owned us for a short period in the Crusaders days just before the Broncos take over...
Don't remember them giving us a big wedge of cash though.'" Admittly,but i wonder how much the got from Brisbane when they sold us on?
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| Quote ="Bikefan"A bit disappointed by this news. Nothing against Luke Dorn at all, but Scott Hill is very difficult to replace. We were (are!) lucky to have an ex-Aussie international of his class (injuries notwithstanding). I enjoyed watching Dorn score tries when he was with Broncos - but he isn't even in Cas's starting side for a reason.
Will he take up an import spot?'"
Dorn has been a regular in the staring 13 this year. I am one of a number of fans that will be sad to see Dorn leave. And if indeed he does as predicted move on, I will thank him for his year at the club and wish him the very best next year.
By the way, what's happened to Hill? Is he off home?
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