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| Sambolic and shameful. No idea, it was exactly what it has been since BM reign, non stop up the middle, no ideas, no effort, no care. I said when BM went that Powell was not the man for the job and it shows more and more every week. David Hughes has wasted his money buying a talented team when there is no coaching or leadership skills at the club. The only thing that will happen is these players will have their skills coached out of them and plod along and degenerate to poor players. Get rid of Powell and get someone who is up to the job. Powell may be a nice bloke but a nice bloke does not a team coach make.
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| Usual nightmare of dropped ball and needless penalties and bad decision making.
Lot of sense from Brian Carney and Stevo - If your going to play the simple one - up play the balls (I have combined their comments) you have to do it properly as it is predictable. So you must get quick play the balls and get up as quick as poss. - if they hold you down you get a penalty - but if you don't challenge them then the ref will just let them carry on as if you can't be d to jump up - its your problem!
These are highly experienced players many who have played at the highest level, if i can see it watching my tv and the commentators are saying the same why don't they.????
When Hull went down to 12 men we started to play the ball quicker and started to get into their 40 metres for a change. We still kept on playing one man rugby instead of trying to overlap with the extra man as if it was beyond their comprehension!? Anyway we managed to pull some points back but not enough. Impressed with Dixon. He has the right attitude and great speed though he is wasted as no one creates anything for him on the wing. At least whenwe had Penny we had some ideas for him. Does O'Callaghan ever pass the ball?? Maybe Dixon should play at Hooker so he can scoot like Roby? Seriously...
I stand by my claim that Randall, Howell and Tamata should have been released and we we will pay for it.
Despite this performance I think there are some decent performances in this team still to come but they need a good shake up. Getting Sargy back will help but I can't see us getting much out of Hudds unless these guys step up a couple of gears.
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| Powell has to go he is responsible for motivation & tactics. Since March last year the team have been pathetic, he brings in new players and still no improvement. His judgement as to be called into question not enough props, centres not good enough. I'll use public transport for the giants game, at least I can get ed and forget about the crap Powell keeps dishing up for us to watch
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| Just got back from Hull and what a truly dreadful match it was until Sam Moa was red carded. The first & last away game I'll be attending given the costs involved. A shame we were seated in the corner next to the empty north stand though. No atmosphere there at all but had a good chat to the Hull fans who were equally appalled by the dullness of the first half & the refereeing decisions against them in the 2nd.
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| Oh... and here's someones YouTube clip of the red card incident.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I think you'd be better off frothing from the mouth on the Hull forum with the natives, I can't see your view getting much support on here. Horrendous tackle.'"
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| Heart dropped as soon as I saw the teamsheet tonight. How on earth can anyone think we are going to win going into a game with only two props. With Cook's injury this went up to three but imo it's still not enough. I thought at varous times all three worked hard but there was no support for them. Running one man out without support runners is not a recipe for success; it's a recipe to get belted.
It is thoroughly depressing seeing the same combination of one man rugby and soft defence out wide and I find it difficult with the change of personnel to blame anyone but the coach.
Also what sort of message is he giving out saying we won't really start playing until round 10?
I wondered before the game which performance was the aberation: Saints or Wire. It is absolutely clear now.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"icon_lol.gif'"
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| Why didn't we move the ball and attack Marting and Sharp. We know one is getting on and one very poor in defence plus they will have a 6 or 7 stood with them. I didn't see Howell of O'C have one run all game- 2 props and we went up the middle against a team that had an Aus Int prop on the bench!! Bizarre
Last night was woefully inadequate- Its Hudds next then 2 winnable games- Decision month for Powell.
If I was Hughes I would be on a Qantas flight today
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| Quote ="The Penguin"What a truly listless, ineffectual display. Given that we played miles better in Round 1, it is pushing it to blame this on the old 'new team, still gelling' chestnut. That we only decided to give it a go once the opposition were down to 12 men says it all. We didn't seem to want it.
Performance littered with careless errors. Being off-side from a kick off - criminal. Juggling a routine goal-line drop out -criminal. Constantly going high in the tackle and often missing them altogether - criminal. Luke Dorn has clearly decided 2012 is going to be his 'David Howell' campaign.
What can a player like Craig Gower do with so little help? When we're hardly completing sets in the opposition half? It is maddening. It is insulting. Most of all I feel sorry for Tony Clubb and Kirk Dixon, who ran their socks off, tackled fiercely, ran tenaciously. They were genuinely impressive - Clubb continues to look a different player in the pack. Dixon looks unfazed to be thrown in at this level so early. Unfortunately he was so comprehensively let down by those around him.'"
Spot on Penguin
And I had the same thoughts about Powell just sitting there looking like little boy lost, alone with his thoughts. He should have been barking instructions down the mike, he should have been running down the steps and giving instructions from the "dug-out" and not be sat there seemingly pondering on his forthcoming thoughts for the after-match interviews
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Oh... and here's someones YouTube clip of the red card incident.
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Awesome hit!!
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| Well another disappointing match to watch, so many basic errors, penalties, but then Silverwood was whistle happy at times. Shocked when I saw the incident with Renaldi on TV this morning and his players congratulated Moa??
Stand by what I said previously I thought the appointment of Powell was a great move and supported it but always felt he should have has someone working with him as Director of Rugby for a year or so!
Currently it makes you feel when is the first win coming, is that a strap line for a PR campaign come to The Stoop and see if we can win? We are not going to draw in new supporters currently nothing to shout out about at all.
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| Quote ="wire quin" I didn't see Howell of O'C have one run all game- 2 props and we went up the middle against a team that had an Aus Int prop on the bench!! Bizarre'"
it highlights how lame and predictable we've become. We also have no speed from dummy half - Rinaldi was a disaster when he came on, ponderous - and underlines how much we miss Andy Ellis who gave us a genuine attacking edge.
Massive, massive worries after yesterday.
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| Quote ="Torbreck"Oh... and here's someones YouTube clip of the red card incident.
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Should have never ever been a red card, was an awesome hit. Your players didn't even react and were even consoling Sam as he got the red. Awful decision.
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| Its only when you watch the replays that you see he hit him in the face because it happened so fast. Thats why they didn't protest!
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| Rinaldi might have protested, but a massive Tongan thug had knocked him out cold.
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| Quote ="The Penguin"it highlights how lame and predictable we've become. We also have no speed from dummy half - Rinaldi was a disaster when he came on, ponderous - and underlines how much we miss Andy Ellis who gave us a genuine attacking edge.
Massive, massive worries after yesterday.'"
Weve gone backwords at Hooker by not making sure we kept Ellis. We offer no threat there now in a pivotal position. Did either of them go through a gap in the whole game?
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| Quote ="Snoopy"Its only when you watch the replays that you see he hit him in the face because it happened so fast. Thats why they didn't protest!'"
Even with the replay it is difficult to see the exact point of contact however, 100% certain it's not the face.
The point I can't get over is Sliverstick didn't have the best view, didn't have a replay, didn't have a slowmo zoom cam etc and saw enough for a red card???? not sure about that!!
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| Quote ="Snoopy"Weve gone backwords at Hooker by not making sure we kept Ellis. We offer no threat there now in a pivotal position. Did either of them go through a gap in the whole game?'"
Agreed - other than Randalls looped pass for Robertsons try, and Rinaldi complaining when he dropped the ball, they offered absolutely nothing, other than predictability. The game play was a short pass from dummy half repeat 5 times and then kick. Ellis would have have at least made the defence think on the odd dash from dummy half.
Out of interest, who would you rate as your top three best performers and top three worst performers - mine
Best - 1 Dixon, 2 Kaufusi, 3 Clubb
Worst - 1 Rodney, 2 Rinaldi, 3 Dorn
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| My top 3 are Dixon and Clubb
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| Mine too. Clubb needs to lay off the pies...
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| Someone needs to teach our centres how to maintain a deep attacking line. Example, there isn't any point in Dorn looping around behind dummy runners if JOC or Howell have overrun him by 2 yards. Even Clubb could manage it.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"Agreed - other than Randalls looped pass for Robertsons try, and Rinaldi complaining when he dropped the ball, they offered absolutely nothing, other than predictability. The game play was a short pass from dummy half repeat 5 times and then kick. Ellis would have have at least made the defence think on the odd dash from dummy half.
Out of interest, who would you rate as your top three best performers and top three worst performers - mine
Best - 1 Dixon, 2 Kaufusi, 3 Clubb
Worst - 1 Rodney, 2 Rinaldi, 3 Dorn'"
What did Howell, one of our most experienced, and well paid i've been told, players do?
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| With regards to those calling for Ellis etc, we could have Roby at hooker and it would make no difference as our play the balls are so slow. The markers have ages to set while our players climb to their feet.
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| Well said Mr Lister.
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