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| Quote ="meliferra"Unless you give permission for another company to use the information you provide then I would expect the Harlequins DB to be protected by data protection. '"
Correct....that's why we'd only ask for the data of people who bought OUR tickets..
Quote ="meliferra"Do you know where the Broncos/Harlequins RLFC is to ask for the data because as far as I know the whole setup has been dismantled.'"
1. The ticket purchasing information must be kept by law for a number of years as part of the normal business record of a "retailer'.
2. There was a copy of the ST data available freely on-line until I sent the ex-CEO a text highlighting the error. I have no doubt that I am not the only one with a cop
3. SOTIC are still delivering the emails for the club......so there's a "contact" database.
Marketing is pointless now anyway. From what I can gather now, Hughes simply writes cheques for this year and that's it. Wood and Solly are "assisting" in the running of the administration of the club, AK is looking after HR/Marketing etc and as the season progresses and crowds get smaller, the decision will be made to slip AK another wedge (maybe some of the parachute payment) so he let's us play 2015 at the Hive before we will once again be condemned to roam the capital looking for another well meaning team to let us use their pitch.
The only glimmer of anything positive is that Paddock Punter will be back to cheer the team on
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| I don't believe there will be anymore roaming the capital for Broncos
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| Quote ="meliferra"From a data protection point of view that makes no sense. You think different companies can just share your data without permission from a data protection officer or you?
The question is normally in the smallprint and is often deceptively worded but I have often had to uncheck a box to say I don't want my info shared or check a box to say I agree to info being shared with third parties.'"
What small print or boxes do you see when you purchase tickets via the phone using a credit card.
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| Quote ="meliferra"I don't believe there will be anymore roaming the capital for Broncos'"
2015 is an option that needs the details ironing out before we can say we will be at The hive next year. Given the hoards from Wakefield will be replaced with the coach load from fev next year, aka can expect to see possibly 7k in total all year and if he expects £20 a ticket, maybe even less......without Hughes the club will have a minimal income from 2016 onwards....
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| I never said Broncos will be at the Hive next year, just that if they arent then they wont be roaming the capital .
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| Quote ="meliferra"I agree the costs are too high and the membership represents poor value. When the prices were announced for the membership I was very disappointed that they had decided to match the Barnet price structure and not offer a reasonable joint membership.
I have every sympathy with those that have decided not to go due to the price although when compared to what is charged at other Super League clubs it is par for the course.'"
From a small sampling I did when told we were leaving the Stoop because the costs were to high people were prepared to pay more at the Stoop. Instead we move to suburban wasteland - but hooray it's on the tube and immediately loose about 1000 fans. Loving madness!
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| Quote ="wantawin"What small print or boxes do you see when you purchase tickets via the phone using a credit card.'"
Any web site requiring a registration in order to make payment.
All information you give over the phone that is stored is subject to data protection and can only be used by that company and for the purpose declared in the statement to the data protection officer.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"From a small sampling I did when told we were leaving the Stoop because the costs were to high people were prepared to pay more at the Stoop. Instead we move to suburban wasteland - but hooray it's on the tube and immediately loose about 1000 fans. Loving madness!'"
Lets be totally honest.about this, leaving the stoop was never about the fans. You could've paid double and it would have been a drop in the ocean compared to what.the owner puts in
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| Quote ="meliferra"Lets be totally honest.about this, leaving the stoop was never about the fans. You could've paid double and it would have been a drop in the ocean compared to what.the owner puts in'"
I am starting to suspect that it isn't Hughes who is bankrolling the club this year but the RFL.
If he's ploughing a million in this year before walking away, he's certifiable!
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| We need to start a campaign to get Mandy Koukash to take over!!!!!
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"We need to start a campaign to get Mandy Koukash to take over!!!!!'"
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| Quote ="meliferra"Any web site requiring a registration in order to make payment.
I was not talking about websites I was talking about buying tickets over the phone which you could do with Broncos
All information you give over the phone that is stored is subject to data protection and can only be used by that company and for the purpose declared in the statement to the data protection officer.'"
If this case the information belonged to Broncos and they can use it at the Hive because you are still buying a season or match ticket to watch Broncos, they are doing the same as when we were at the Stoop using a third party to do the ticketing which we were told that it would save the club money when we moved back to the Stoop on software and Admin staff.
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| Quote ="wantawin"If this case the information belonged to Broncos and they can use it at the Hive because you are still buying a season or match ticket to watch Broncos, they are doing the same as when we were at the Stoop using a third party to do the ticketing which we were told that it would save the club money when we moved back to the Stoop on software and Admin staff.'"
No the information belongs to you. If I pay council tax to one council it does not mean that every other council can use the information I give because they also collect council tax. That the hive had to wait for permission from data protection to use the distribution list shows that DP view them as separate data holders
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| Quote ="meliferra"No the information belongs to you. If I pay council tax to one council it does not mean that every other council can use the information I give because they also collect council tax. That the hive had to wait for permission from data protection to use the distribution list shows that DP view them as separate data holders'"
ffs
London Broncos RL/Harlequins RL should have been collecting and collating data from all available sources from day ing one. The fact that nobody bothered to collect, collate and manage this data is just another example of how much the club needs a totally new ownership model.
Meliferra.....what's the best way to get hold of AK?
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| Quote ="wantawin"If this case the information belonged to Broncos and they can use it at the Hive because you are still buying a season or match ticket to watch Broncos, they are doing the same as when we were at the Stoop using a third party to do the ticketing which we were told that it would save the club money when we moved back to the Stoop on software and Admin staff.'"
Then because someone peed of the Quins and we moved everything out of the stoop I think we got our own stuff
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Quote ="CrusaderPete"We need to start a campaign to get Mandy Koukash to take over!!!!!'"
Would be great right, esp now we know she may not have the winning bid to take over Bradford.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/26629186
But after the good Dr.'s criticism of London in the SuperLeague, is it a non-starter?
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Quote ="CrusaderPete"We need to start a campaign to get Mandy Koukash to take over!!!!!'"
Would be great right, esp now we know she may not have the winning bid to take over Bradford.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/26629186
But after the good Dr.'s criticism of London in the SuperLeague, is it a non-starter?
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Then because someone peed of the Quins and we moved everything out of the stoop I think we got our own stuff'"
I can confirm 100% that we received ALL ticketing and sales data when we left the stoop offices. We did sweet all with it because people were running around protecting their own positions by firing others.
I know I annoy people. But there is a reason that those who want the game to grow, including those in the RFL use me as an outlet for their frustrations!
David Hughes has to go. He has to realise he will not see a penny of his money back, but as it stands currently, he may still get a stand named after him one day, If he continues to hang on to us like a spoilt child, then I am sorry, but FUCK HIM!
Too many mistakes and too arrogant to accept them....the RFL have forced his hand in getting rid of Gus......he really hasn't a clue!
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| Quote ="RLLDN"But after the good Dr.'s criticism of London in the SuperLeague, is it a non-starter?'"
He slagged off London to "get down with the fans".
He hasn't a clue about running anything is sports other than something that wins a race/game that he can then sell sperm from.
Adrian Morley should re-read his contract
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| Quote ="meliferra"No the information belongs to you. If I pay council tax to one council it does not mean that every other council can use the information I give because they also collect council tax. That the hive had to wait for permission from data protection to use the distribution list shows that DP view them as separate data holders'"
Not my understanding of how this works.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Not my understanding of how this works.'"
Not my understanding either if this is the case how come companies are in business selling data to other companies I am sure I did not give permission to any company who got hold of my details and are for ever calling me about PPI
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| Simple. Ring the ticket office and ask them why they have not specifically targeted last season's Season Ticket Holders regarding renewal as well as other regulars and why they haven't been sympathetic to the needs of concession ticket holders like they have in the case of sixtysomething. Barnet fans previously. (Precedent set?)
And then perhaps suggest it would make sense to contact these people separately from just a generic email, mailshot.
If I get time at work today, I'll do it myself.
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Quote ="jbuzza"Not my understanding of how this works.'"
I'll let you decide, obviously this is my interpretation that buying tickets for the Stoop from Harlequins RU does not allow the Hive to automatically use it for marketing purposes to sell tickets for the Hive. As others and I have said, the season ticket information held by Broncos admin staff should've been passed on and if it has then for the Hive not to contact these people makes no sense.
ico.org.uk/for_organisations/pri ... idance.pdf
Quote Consent is central to the rules on direct marketing.
Organisations will generally need an individual’s consent before
they can send marketing texts, emails or faxes, make calls to a
number registered with the TPS, or make any automated
marketing calls under PECR. They will also need
consent to pass customer details on to another organisation
under the first data protection principle. If they cannot
demonstrate that they had valid consent, they may be subject
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Quote ="jbuzza"Not my understanding of how this works.'"
I'll let you decide, obviously this is my interpretation that buying tickets for the Stoop from Harlequins RU does not allow the Hive to automatically use it for marketing purposes to sell tickets for the Hive. As others and I have said, the season ticket information held by Broncos admin staff should've been passed on and if it has then for the Hive not to contact these people makes no sense.
ico.org.uk/for_organisations/pri ... idance.pdf
Quote Consent is central to the rules on direct marketing.
Organisations will generally need an individual’s consent before
they can send marketing texts, emails or faxes, make calls to a
number registered with the TPS, or make any automated
marketing calls under PECR. They will also need
consent to pass customer details on to another organisation
under the first data protection principle. If they cannot
demonstrate that they had valid consent, they may be subject
to enforcement action.'"
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Meliferra.....what's the best way to get hold of AK?'"
I see him at the Hive. Never had a number or Email for him.
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Quote ="meliferra"I'll let you decide, obviously this is my interpretation that buying tickets for the Stoop from Harlequins RU does not allow the Hive to automatically use it for marketing purposes to sell tickets for the Hive. As others and I have said, the season ticket information held by Broncos admin staff should've been passed on and if it has then for the Hive not to contact these people makes no sense.
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It all depends on the form of consent collected when the data was collected. This is all way off topic but there is no "data protection" you can go and ask for permission to use it. Unless you are an expert in the field I suggest we leave it there.
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Quote ="meliferra"I'll let you decide, obviously this is my interpretation that buying tickets for the Stoop from Harlequins RU does not allow the Hive to automatically use it for marketing purposes to sell tickets for the Hive. As others and I have said, the season ticket information held by Broncos admin staff should've been passed on and if it has then for the Hive not to contact these people makes no sense.
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It all depends on the form of consent collected when the data was collected. This is all way off topic but there is no "data protection" you can go and ask for permission to use it. Unless you are an expert in the field I suggest we leave it there.
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