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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"I was referring specifically to Jaybs.
Saying that David Hughes does get a ridiculously easy time for wrecking the club.
If Broncos ever recover it will be no thanks to him.'"
OK, fair enough.
But you know as well as I do we are in a Catch 22. We exist on DH's money, and we slowly die from DH's decisions. If he stays we whither, if he walks we implode. We're a rich man's play thing, and you and I aren't rich enough to buy him out.
Thing is, I don't need certain posters constantly telling me this. Not least because it won't change things.
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| Quote ="itsmeagain"...Perry - you, Mickey1234, Jaybs, cranewife etc can constantly chip away at people like GF, COwgirl, Wire Quin but they know what they are talking about. They understand what is needed...'"
Point of order. I don't chip away at Cowgirl or Wire Quin, we've agreed and disagreed on many occasions, but as far as I can recall, we've always kept it civil.
I don't 'chip away' at GF for that matter, but I do stand up to him when he's being rude, ill mannered, or personally abusive (which is quite often). I wouldn't put up with that in the bar, so I'm damned if I putting up with it on here. As for knowing what he's talking about? Well all he ever talks about is the past (which I already know), and how great he is (which if he needs to shout it suggests he isn't as great as he thinks he is).
The rest of your post I agree with, but why are you telling me? I don't need to have expained to me what a slow motion train crash the club is, I've been riding the train during the crash! It's all very well talking about passion, and fire in the belly, but no amount of that from me or anyone else on here will alter the fact that we haven't got the money to buy the club off DH. And no amount of attacking other posters on here will change that either. We are essentially powerless.
As for Ealing. Do you honestly, honestly think I'm looking forward to flogging my sorry backside to the fag-end of west London, next to a toilet of an estate, to watch them play on a glorified park pitch? Seriously??
If you look back on this thread you'll find at least two posts from me where I said if we're not buying in it's a bad move. So why did you need to type so many words telling me what a bad move it is??
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| I think the main point is as much as there are lots of people out there who allegedly have all the answers to what the club should do, no one is in the position to actually do anything about it firstly they don't have the money and secondly things actually ain't that straight forward.
If arguing those points with them is chipping away them so be it.
Am I happy that we are going to ealing, of course not, but again it is what it is, I don't have the money to pump into the club to push things in a different direction
It's not glibly standing by or accepting the situation, it's the realisation that it is what it is
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Only because more of our players will want to leave and he can trouser himself some more agents fees.
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Only because more of our players will want to leave and he can trouser himself some more agents fees.
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| Perry and Mickey have said it.
Yes we know what's wrong, No we don't have the money to change it, even if I did have that kind of cash would I be prepared to spend it on the venture?? I guess it would depend on just how much cash I had.
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| Quote ="itsmeagain" Perry - you, Mickey1234, Jaybs, cranewife etc can constantly chip away at people like GF, COwgirl, Wire Quin but they know what they are talking about. They understand what is needed. They understand what is going to work
And before you chip away at me to ask do I go to games the answer is yes I do and travel many hours to do so and I also do occasional away games.'"
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I never chip away at Cowgirl or WireQuin? who I have the utmost respect for peoplem but I have very little respect for those who feel they have to hide under various aliases! and forget how they once bragged constantly how they had an hot line to the club, then all of a sudden became negative? and just now spout out the same rhetoric over and over again, and love to create negativity.
Many of us have been around since that first game at Fulham v Wigan, and stayed loyal to the club through thick and thin, just like fans did at such as Huyton RLFC, what is sad is this forum has so few now who post, while such as the clubs Facebook page has many more now, there is debate but no bitterness!
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Just a thought that came to me. There is an unwanted 1200 capacity demountable seated stand at underhill. It was going to be bought by Southport and moved up to theiron ground but the transport costs are to high and you can't get grants on second hand stands. Is it worth Broncos looking into it?
At the moment it's for the scrap heap as no one wants it. Swap out the orange seats and I would've thought it ideal for your immediate needs
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... tNight.JPG
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Just a thought that came to me. There is an unwanted 1200 capacity demountable seated stand at underhill. It was going to be bought by Southport and moved up to theiron ground but the transport costs are to high and you can't get grants on second hand stands. Is it worth Broncos looking into it?
At the moment it's for the scrap heap as no one wants it. Swap out the orange seats and I would've thought it ideal for your immediate needs
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... tNight.JPG
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Quote ="meliferra"Just a thought that came to me. There is an unwanted 1200 capacity demountable seated stand at underhill. It was going to be bought by Southport and moved up to theiron ground but the transport costs are to high and you can't get grants on second hand stands. Is it worth Broncos looking into it?
At the moment it's for the scrap heap as no one wants it. Swap out the orange seats and I would've thought it ideal for your immediate needs
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... tNight.JPG'"
An excellent suggestion mel. Which is almost certainly why the club won't look into it.
You've seen the shower that 'run' the Broncos, they couldn't run a bath.
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Quote ="meliferra"Just a thought that came to me. There is an unwanted 1200 capacity demountable seated stand at underhill. It was going to be bought by Southport and moved up to theiron ground but the transport costs are to high and you can't get grants on second hand stands. Is it worth Broncos looking into it?
At the moment it's for the scrap heap as no one wants it. Swap out the orange seats and I would've thought it ideal for your immediate needs
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... tNight.JPG'"
An excellent suggestion mel. Which is almost certainly why the club won't look into it.
You've seen the shower that 'run' the Broncos, they couldn't run a bath.
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| Sadly, I have to agree with Perry again. In fact there's been quite a few stadiums going through a dismantling process so there's seating and terracing aplenty for those who can be bothered to organise the logistics!
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Quote ="Perry"An excellent suggestion mel. Which is almost certainly why the club won't look into it.
You've seen the shower that 'run' the Broncos, they couldn't run a bath.'" You may know better but I get the impression that the "shower" who run the Broncos are more of an understaffed dribble. www.londonbroncosrl.com/broncos-staff/
There has even not been a designated chief exec. for the past year or so.
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Quote ="Perry"An excellent suggestion mel. Which is almost certainly why the club won't look into it.
You've seen the shower that 'run' the Broncos, they couldn't run a bath.'" You may know better but I get the impression that the "shower" who run the Broncos are more of an understaffed dribble. www.londonbroncosrl.com/broncos-staff/
There has even not been a designated chief exec. for the past year or so.
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| Given the gimp that last occupied that position it might not be such a bad thing.
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| It's all getting a bit squiffy on this board for me, but could I add to the crap,
With my logical head on, will we have to play games on a Sunday, for the early part of the season, not to clash with Ealing home games, as there season will overlap ours, as we start, Union is on back straight till around May,or will have some really glorious double header games on a Saturday in February to May ish, take a look at Ealing fixture list, would like a double header with leeds Carnegie, a certain Rhino and GB and England legend will play for them next season,
Sorry to put more crap in the fire, but it must be looked at
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| Can't argue with that thinking Orient.
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| 3 years at Ealing! A 3 year deal FFS!
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| What's wrong with a 3 year deal? Is it not better than getting to end of the season and starting the merry go round again?
Not sure how much they actually know, but as I said on page 1 of this thread, a local in Ealing who has links in the rugby world did talk about ealing and there expansion plans, could be true, could be utter tosh, this was before our involvement was ever mentioned.
If we are going in there with the chance of developing the ground then what's the problem, is this not what everyone has always said we need
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| So how do any of us know if under hill was or was not looked at and rejected for what ever reason?
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| Quote ="Honkytonk"Starting work on our new gym next week'"
How many is that we will have built/refurbished over the years and across the metropolis!
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"So how do any of us know if under hill was or was not looked at and rejected for what ever reason?'"
Underhill was sold for development so well out of any realistic budget. The council didn't seem to keen on having professional sport there in the form of football so may not have been too keen either.
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| Nah mate its me not reading the post properly melf was saying why don't they look at dismantling the stand and moving it, I get that now
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"What's wrong with a 3 year deal? '"
Because yet again it's a short term deal, and in 3 years time, if we still exist,we will no doubt up sticks and move to an even smaller venue which will be hailed as a great deal and then do the same again. Are we buying in here? Doesn't look like it if it's only 3 years does it? The decline of the club continues apace!
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| Mickey its noble of you to remain positive but even you can surely see the decline. Its that bad Steve the comms man removes you from the Broncos Facebook page if you post negatively!! Get Corbyn in I say.
Henry Paul, Scott Hill, Dorny, Marty, Tommy, playing at a state of the art Rugby ground against Melbourne, Warrington, Leeds........ compared to.........
Are you starting to see where most are coming from? Fosters in a can at a BBQ is OK, but cold beer sold in a glass in a nice pub with a great group of friends and music must be better, maybe not hey!!
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| So let's all be totally negative about everything then.
I agree it's not ideal far from it, but what are other options at the moment.
The club have to re structure, we are in effect re building from the bottom.
What would I prefer, personally best years for me were Brentford, but it's not to be, it's not a case of being noble, it's a realisation that the club has to cut costs and generate an income. At the hive we have no income at all apart from Mr Hughes. So its 3 years, is that not better than a 2 or 1 year deal?? Would the news we had bought the set up been better of course it would but that's not happened.
The basic point is, you, me, gutters, bronc are not in a position to do anything about it, we don't have the money or influence.
So we can wallow in self pity or we can get on with supporting the club.
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| Supporting the club and raising concern, let's even call it debate, on a website are two completely different things, aren't they?
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