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You cant leave us hanging like that in regards to the email reply.
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| Quote ="BigTime"Nice clear instructions on how redeem codes. Now all I need is them to send my son’s pass as well and I can action it. Without it......
Perhaps they are posting it with last year’s T shirt.!'"
In that case you have no chance sir!
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| Having not seen any games last season for my membership but did get a pretty decent polo shirt, I'm very much in 2 minds about buying another. Will certainly do nothing until the final squad is officially announced (if it ever is). If Hughes & his menagerie want me to buy a Membership then they have to sell it to me not just say here it is buy it. If they can't be asked then I might just rock up to a couple of games & stick with Fulham & Quins who are both having good seasons.
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| Quote ="gardener"I resigned up for the mailing list again.'"
So did I.....not received any emails this far. MailChimp has an automated sign up tool, so it may be that the club aren't updating their data after every broadcast.
Pricing seems OK, but unless the team performs far better than most expect, it will be very difficult to attract and retain new fans.
An awful lot of the "plan" seems to rely on Wimbledon and their fans......I wonder how many of the 250 fans from 2021 were also fans if Fulham, Charlton, Brentford, quins, Barnet or trailfinders RU....
Anyone here planning a trip to the quiz this week? It'll be interesting to see what the turn out is like......
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Fair enough.
Commercial manager’s email caught me slightly on the hop early doors in response to my email asking for clarification on post payment ST process. Kicking myself slightly that my response was too measured. So it feels a bit snide to be putting the boot in here but, in general terms, expressed surprise that I would want an ST given my posts.
Putting aside the slightly creepy element and that I’ve avoided personal attacks on CM and The owner (as I’ve not felt best placed to judge and they have seemed a little harsh to me for various reasons) I did, as I reflected across the day, think that that kind of approach to a customer and one buying a higher ticket item ( in the scheme of the suite of products LB offers) was as we say in the trade “sub- optimal”. Others have mentioned being, in essence, banished from the club for social media outrages but if fairly measured criticism on a fan forum (a fan forum!) raises concerns they are in strife because surely to god most of the ST purchasers will have concerns about the Plough Lane/part time/ fascination with lower end of L1/haemorrhaging of support conundrum we find ourselves in. If all those were dissuaded from taking up ST s or made to feel uncomfortable then that would be that.
So what do you reckon. Was he trying to say we don’t want non-believers around here- ask for a refund? Or was he trying to intimidate/ be a smart Alec/ discourage dissent or was he just having a bad day and is getting sick of criticism of the way things are going when he/they are working hard. Could be the latter I suppose but criticism surely can’t be a surprise.
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| Quote ="Deadcowboys1"Having not seen any games last season for my membership but did get a pretty decent polo shirt, I'm very much in 2 minds about buying another. Will certainly do nothing until the final squad is officially announced (if it ever is). If Hughes & his menagerie want me to buy a Membership then they have to sell it to me not just say here it is buy it. If they can't be asked then I might just rock up to a couple of games & stick with Fulham & Quins who are both having good seasons.'"
STs do look reasonable value and good to support the team but I have to say neither the Leigh or in particular the Fev Rovers game look like being anything close to fun.
Then again you too have run an eye over a few recent decisions and found them potentially wanting on this forum so you may be banned! What a life!
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| Quote ="BigTime"
Fair enough.
Commercial manager’s email caught me slightly on the hop early doors in response to my email asking for clarification on post payment ST process. Kicking myself slightly that my response was too measured. So it feels a bit snide to be putting the boot in here but, in general terms, expressed surprise that I would want an ST given my posts.
Putting aside the slightly creepy element and that I’ve avoided personal attacks on CM and The owner (as I’ve not felt best placed to judge and they have seemed a little harsh to me for various reasons) I did, as I reflected across the day, think that that kind of approach to a customer and one buying a higher ticket item ( in the scheme of the suite of products LB offers) was as we say in the trade “sub- optimal”. Others have mentioned being, in essence, banished from the club for social media outrages but if fairly measured criticism on a fan forum (a fan forum!) raises concerns they are in strife because surely to god most of the ST purchasers will have concerns about the Plough Lane/part time/ fascination with lower end of L1/haemorrhaging of support conundrum we find ourselves in. If all those were dissuaded from taking up ST s or made to feel uncomfortable then that would be that.
So what do you reckon. Was he trying to say we don’t want non-believers around here- ask for a refund? Or was he trying to intimidate/ be a smart Alec/ discourage dissent or was he just having a bad day and is getting sick of criticism of the way things are going when he/they are working hard. Could be the latter I suppose but criticism surely can’t be a surprise.'"
This smacks of insecurity and naivety of the highest order...... I've said the current staff are little more than wage thieves and I am happy to discuss that here or with them directly if they ever had the gumption to explain exactly what it is they think they're going to achieve at Wimbledon, that hasn't already been tried and failed at countless other grounds.
The Commercial Manager needs to wind his neck back in and if anything, be thanking anyone brave enough to part with cash for what on paper looks like a complete sht show of 2022. The fact he can place you as a customer and identify you as a forum poster isn't creepy at all....it just shows how worried they are about the general feeling amongst fans of the club....the last time a senior member of staff at the club spent far too much time on forums such as these, was when the fielding supremo was at the helm....he was out of his depth too and we ended up winning 1 game and then going down after he moved us unnecessarily, other than to cover up his own failures.
I suspect when Milner leaves the club, his time at London Broncos will me missing from his CV, as there's not really anything positive he could say other than he was "Head of Commercial" at a Professional sports club that under his guidance went part time before going bust......
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| Hoping we are going to win more than one this year OM but we won’t really be able to judge until after the Widnes game. Just seen who Fev Rovers have signed and it’s a different pool to the one we are fishing in.
One thing I think we can be certain is this will be a difficult season and only those with long memories will recall a trickier one. Cultivating current fans would seem to me to be the best approach rather than alienating but I haven’t worked in the sports/entertainment sector so who knows maybe it works differently. The one thing I am sure about though is when you lose fans it’s really tricky to get them back and we are down to about 300 hard core now.
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| I dont think I will bother emailing about an email about a season ticket then. I will just pop down to a few games and pay on the door when the big teams turn up. Shame really as the facilities at the ground do look good and it looks a brilliant little set up.
Hopefully it wont go down to crowds like at the national sports centre when there was like 200 people there. Anyone else rememeber the game where you could win £100,000 for hitting the crossbar on the goalpost from the halfway line i think? That was after you got the first two over the bar?
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| Quote ="gardener"I dont think I will bother emailing about an email about a season ticket then. I will just pop down to a few games and pay on the door when the big teams turn up. Shame really as the facilities at the ground do look good and it looks a brilliant little set up.
Hopefully it wont go down to crowds like at the national sports centre when there was like 200 people there. Anyone else rememeber the game where you could win £100,000 for hitting the crossbar on the goalpost from the halfway line i think? That was after you got the first two over the bar?'"
The crossbar challenge … one of the best things about going then !
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| Quote ="gardener"I dont think I will bother emailing about an email about a season ticket then. I will just pop down to a few games and pay on the door when the big teams turn up. Shame really as the facilities at the ground do look good and it looks a brilliant little set up.
Hopefully it wont go down to crowds like at the national sports centre when there was like 200 people there. Anyone else rememeber the game where you could win £100,000 for hitting the crossbar on the goalpost from the halfway line i think? That was after you got the first two over the bar?'"
Sorry to hear that G. As I said in an earlier post I haven’t received my son’s code yet so haven’t booked my seat but I had a quick scout around to see if this was going to be a major problem and it isn’t as yet. In fact the number of seats already booked (which I assume is a high proportion of the STs purchased) is surprisingly low. You could book a really good central seat with no problem. I won’t give away how low take up is but (a) I’d urge people wavering to consider buying as it does look a bit existential and (b) a very quick doff of the cap to the guy (or gal) who booked the very last seat in the very last row of an (as yet hopefully) empty stand. Here’s hoping he/she enjoys their splendid isolation.
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| Quote ="Exbronco"The crossbar challenge … one of the best things about going then !'"
They could bring that back with an expensive car ads the prize to try and lure more people in.Easy to arrange with a garage and also insurance companies would you insure you if you had to pay out.Most cars given away as hole in one prizes are insured against people winning them.
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So what do you reckon. Was he trying to say we don’t want non-believers around here- ask for a refund? Or was he trying to intimidate/ be a smart Alec/ discourage dissent or was he just having a bad day and is getting sick of criticism of the way things are going when he/they are working hard. Could be the latter I suppose but criticism surely can’t be a surprise. '"
I think he was having a bad day given he could as easily respond in here but hasn't and has also taken to direct contact with me on Facebook by interjecting in a conversation I was having with friends about the all blacks coach....
Quote Always full of advice for people on jobs you're unable to get into eh tough guy '"
Quote useless negative comments posted by a guy sat in his underpants. We see you cowboy'"
Quote you're an embarrassment. A complete mess sat there giving it the big un from behind your laptop.'"
Classy from the head of commercial at a pro sports club....I hope he's nicer to the sponsors
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| Quote ="orangeman"Classy from the head of commercial at a pro sports club....I hope he's nicer to the sponsors'"
Surprised he has the time. He must have his hands full given the target for 5000 fans in 3 years.
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| Quote ="orangeman"I think he was having a bad day given he could as easily respond in here but hasn't and has also taken to direct contact with me on Facebook by interjecting in a conversation I was having with friends about the all blacks coach....
Classy from the head of commercial at a pro sports club....I hope he's nicer to the sponsors'"
Bad day indeed. What a life!
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| If that's true I'm utterly embarrassed to have wasted well north of twenty years this club.
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| Quote ="orangeman"I think he was having a bad day given he could as easily respond in here but hasn't and has also taken to direct contact with me on Facebook by interjecting in a conversation I was having with friends about the all blacks coach....
Classy from the head of commercial at a pro sports club....I hope he's nicer to the sponsors'"
Absolutely definitely him who posted on your Facebook?
If so, sacked. Searching out a (former) customer on Facebook? Sacked. Bad day or not.
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| Quote ="jbuzza"Surprised he has the time. He must have his hands full given the target for 5000 fans in 3 years.'"
That's only 151 fans per game over 3 seasons....they'll cope
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| Quote ="Benny Profane"Absolutely definitely him who posted on your Facebook?
If so, sacked. Searching out a (former) customer on Facebook? Sacked. Bad day or not.'"
As far as I know.....pictures of him at games, describes himself as head of commercial and friends with rammo as well as 2 other mutuals....
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| Quote ="orangeman"As far as I know.....pictures of him at games, describes himself as head of commercial and friends with rammo as well as 2 other mutuals....'"
That's me done then. After 28 years supporting this club through thin and thinner, done.
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| I slept on this intentionally but still believe a massive line has potentially been crossed. Please report this to the club Orangeman, with supporting evidence.
This presumably is the person leading Broncos outreach to the local community - probably including schools and youth groups. If this - if it was him, or any future incidents, blow up at some point it could seriously embarrass the club. Such organisations don't much care for cyber bullying, which has been cited in coroner's reports as contributing towards suicides etc.
He has the right to defend himself. If he can prove this wasn't him, good. The club should confirm this, clear his name and let him get on with outreach with no risk of this blowing up. If it was him, this surely breaches club policies so it's likely to become a disciplinary.issue. If it wasn't the club official then it sounds like someone has gone to great lengths to smear him, if found they should have the book thrown at them.
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| Quote ="orangeman"...... and friends with rammo ...'"
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| The issue is to whom do I address my complaint?
Hughes? He and I will never agree although he has now grabbed the 5k figure from 20 years ago like a genius.
Lobster? Why would he bother. I've not been kind to him on annonymous boards, so why defend me?
Who else?
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I've screen grabbed the posts and will sleep on it....
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Quote ="orangeman"The issue is to whom do I address my complaint?
Hughes? He and I will never agree although he has now grabbed the 5k figure from 20 years ago like a genius.
Lobster? Why would he bother. I've not been kind to him on annonymous boards, so why defend me?
Who else?
The RFL?
I've screen grabbed the posts and will sleep on it....'"
If you give it out online you should perhaps expect to get it back but if you want to persue it here is some info:
https://www.rugby-league.com/governance ... -a-concern
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Quote ="orangeman"The issue is to whom do I address my complaint?
Hughes? He and I will never agree although he has now grabbed the 5k figure from 20 years ago like a genius.
Lobster? Why would he bother. I've not been kind to him on annonymous boards, so why defend me?
Who else?
The RFL?
I've screen grabbed the posts and will sleep on it....'"
If you give it out online you should perhaps expect to get it back but if you want to persue it here is some info:
https://www.rugby-league.com/governance ... -a-concern
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My take, for what it’s worth, is, as buzza alludes, it must be frustrating to have people take a pop online and not be able to give it back. He won’t need telling this was inappropriate but let’s be frank, it’s water off a ducks back to you orange - it’s just internet chat who cares. So unless it’s a regular thing or you feel threatened I’d not pursue it. People do f**k up sometimes- no biggie.
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My take, for what it’s worth, is, as buzza alludes, it must be frustrating to have people take a pop online and not be able to give it back. He won’t need telling this was inappropriate but let’s be frank, it’s water off a ducks back to you orange - it’s just internet chat who cares. So unless it’s a regular thing or you feel threatened I’d not pursue it. People do f**k up sometimes- no biggie.
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