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| Errr, so I am to believe that BT Sport, are completely unaware of how TV Rights for sports/Events work, I don't think so!
I think you'll find these TV companies are multi-million pound corparations who employ the right people, these people are fully aware that they need to "lobby" those Organisations they wish to be involved with, they do not sit on their backsides waiting for existing contracts to end.
If BT were interested they would have signalled their interest by now.
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| Good call Pete
Do people think BT are dumb and only think about today. Sky played a cute game and got what they wanted before BT got close to Big Nige and the scouse get.
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| The TV contract was not put out to tender to anyone, and it was not due for renewal, be interesting what the increased sum is worth by the time the end of the contract comes around, Sky don't give money away.
Dr Koukash last night said he was most concerned as well at the deal, but the short notice gives by The RFL for the clubs to make a decision seems a tactic! just to push it through.
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| Why would you bother if no-one else is signalling an interest and Sky are already ramping up the existing deal?
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"Why would you bother if no-one else is signalling an interest and Sky are already ramping up the existing deal?'"
Sky have been rattled by BT Sport so they've moved early to wrap up some of their assets, Rugby League being just one of the contracts they announced last week. They put a deal to the RFL, a deal that gives the RFL enough money to fund the new 2x12/3x8 nonsense and the RFL took it. They then gave the clubs just 24 hours notice and just 2 hours to examine the deal before voting on it.
It works for Sky as they get to shut BT out, and it works for the RFL as it funds their new format and thus secures Wood and Rimmer the support of a few more small clubs.
Is it the best deal for SL? We'll probably never know, but signing away TV rights for 8 years must be a worry. And it also includes international fixtures post 2017, so we'll lose much-needed exposure on terrestrial TV.
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| Quote ="nadera78"Is it the best deal for SL? We'll probably never know, but signing away TV rights for 8 years must be a worry. And it also includes international fixtures post 2017, so we'll lose much-needed exposure on terrestrial TV.'"
Agree with you over all of you main points fully, but it is the best deal, I think we will know in 8 years time! it is claimed the money will now virtually run a Super League costs, I can't see that being the case in 8 years really!
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| Errr.......WHAT exposure on terrestrial TV are you talking about, exactly???
The BBC's coverage of the World Cup was nothing short of appalling!
They actually aired a live WOMENS International Union game rather than an international RL WORLD CUP fixture, is that really BETTER? .... REALLY????
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| Quote ="CrusaderPete"Errr.......WHAT exposure on terrestrial TV are you talking about, exactly???
The BBC's coverage of the World Cup was nothing short of appalling!
They actually aired a live WOMENS International Union game rather than an international RL WORLD CUP fixture, is that really BETTER? .... REALLY????'"
The attention we got during the RLWC, from media and sports fans in general, was massively increased by having games visible on terrestrial TV instead of being buried on Sky at 6pm on a Saturday. For the first time a many years people who don't follow the game were talking about the fixtures and how England were doing.
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| Premier Sports covered every match in The World Cup with superb commentary, then The RFL pulls the carpet from beneath them!
Like what The Good Dr Koukash had to say this morning at The Salford Media launch, in answer to the Sky deal and the England coach going to Australia;
""Maybe I've said too much ... no, I haven't said enough. The RFL, before they come out and make all the statements, I think of that song, who are you kidding Mr Hitler? Sorry, Mr Wood."
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| Quote ="jaybs"Premier Sports covered every match in The World Cup with superb commentary, then The RFL pulls the carpet from beneath them!
Like what The Good Dr Koukash had to say this morning at The Salford Media launch, in answer to the Sky deal and the England coach going to Australia;
""Maybe I've said too much ... no, I haven't said enough. The RFL, before they come out and make all the statements, I think of that song, who are you kidding Mr Hitler? Sorry, Mr Wood."'"
Premier Sports are a budget channel that wants sports for free or very cheap so they aren't going to be treated any differently.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Premier Sports are a budget channel that wants sports for free or very cheap so they aren't going to be treated any differently.'"
We were mighty glad of Premier, when Sky got tired of The Championship! Yes Sky wanted the Championship back, but in business there are ways to deal with people, you never know when you may need them again.
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| London Broncos fans discussing the SKY TV deal for the next period of SL is like Turkeys discussing what their favourite brand of Cranberry sauce is
We have an extra 300k from SKY. This money would have been great if it could be spent 100% on marketing the 13 home games this year........I suspect it will be used to make our books look slightly more attractive to the Cypriot Landlord
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| What, exactly, is the relevance of him being Cypriot?
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| Quote ="Euclid"What, exactly, is the relevance of him being Cypriot?'"
..it highlights the rich Cypriot heritage in Rugby League that patently makes London Broncos such a delicious investment opportunity........If he's Turkish Cypriot, even more so
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| I think it may turn out to be a good deal. Sports, specifically football, are looking very overpriced with the competition between Sky and BT Sport. I doubt that will be the case in a couple of years time, and we may see a drop in the value of TV rights.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"..it highlights the rich Cypriot heritage in Rugby League that patently makes London Broncos such a delicious investment opportunity........If he's Turkish Cypriot, even more so
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That's a silly post, even by your high standards.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"..it highlights the rich Cypriot heritage in Rugby League that patently makes London Broncos such a delicious investment opportunity........If he's Turkish Cypriot, even more so
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Not sure what your point was but I think you might have possibly upset Mr K by use of the T word!
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| See Mr Barwick has issued a statement today, not happy with comments from some clubs!
Love another comment from Dr Koukash!
Koukash told fans and sponsors he wants Super League’s member clubs to run Super League.
"He also maintains ambitious Championship clubs such as Leigh have no realistic chance of ever playing in the top-flight under the current system.
The Salford owner told MEN Sport: “I don’t mind being known as Big Mouth but am not happy with the RFL.
“[iMy daughter even wonders if RFL stands for not knowing right from left[/i – enough said!
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| Quote ="jaybs"See Mr Barwick has issued a statement today, not happy with comments from some clubs!
Love another comment from Dr Koukash!
Koukash told fans and sponsors he wants Super League’s member clubs to run Super League.
"He also maintains ambitious Championship clubs such as Leigh have no realistic chance of ever playing in the top-flight under the current system.
The Salford owner told MEN Sport: “I don’t mind being known as Big Mouth but am not happy with the RFL.
“[iMy daughter even wonders if RFL stands for not knowing right from left[/i – enough said!'"
You only ever like to use evidence that confirms your pre-conceived idea about the RFL. What about the best World Cup ever (no debate) and the best ever new TV deal (no debate)? They aren't perfect but the RFL deserve some credit for recent achievements and this type of constant criticism is childish.
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| Quote ="Euclid"That's a silly post, even by your high standards.'"
Oooh..... It's the dodgy humour police.
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In fact, scratch that. The point of mentioning where the guy comes from is actually quite pertinent. There is no other reason for this guy being interested in "investing" in the club other than him making a profit. Unlike Dr Marwan, who comes from a similar Non-RL background, this guy has a track record of not investing a brass farthing unless he sees a potential (and pretty instant) chance of ROI. We have stripped ourselves bare and laid at his feet hoping he finds us an attractive proposition.....it's not a very "business like" way to behave for one of only 14 Pro teams in the country.
He has little or no understanding of the difference between wendyball and Rugby.... as neither do his staff.....the only income he is going to be really interested in this year is the RENT we are paying him as well as the FEE we pay him for looking after our admin. The ticketing revenue which he will share with us and his bar and food takings are the variables that he controls but he is on a win/win this year and now we've come into 300k more, DH will have to invest less than he planned, with all promotion left to a guy with little or no success of running a sports team. Check out what division they are in.
At least you can sponsor a player now, although it seems that nobody is prepared to put a price on them for 2014........not publicly yet, that's for sure!
[urlhttp://www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/5172.php#.UvKLLHmBpMs[/url
You asked me why I felt the need to point out his heritage, how about asking the others who post here why they keep on about where Gus comes from?
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"You only ever like to use evidence that confirms your pre-conceived idea about the RFL. What about the best World Cup ever (no debate) and the best ever new TV deal (no debate)? They aren't perfect but the RFL deserve some credit for recent achievements and this type of constant criticism is childish.'"
The best ever World Cup? yes it was good, but that was down to Sally Bolton, even if one other guy tried to take all the credit. The Best ever deal, it is for 8 years, I am with Ian Lenegan and Dr Koukash, it was completely wrong how much short notice was given to accept the deal, The CEO is supposed to be there to serve the clubs! why was it never put out to tender first, to see what BT would offer? what will the sum accepted be worth in real terms in 8 years time? Perhaps I could say, you constant defence is, but I won't! it is your opinion, I am all now for Super League Clubs taking over control themselves, and No the CEO or Chairman must not be on that new board.
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| Might have been interesting if Leneghan hadn't have displayed his obvious lack of a pair and voted no, same for the others now voicing "their concern". 'Effin' hypocrites!
If they'd have voted no, well they might have got a better deal or they might have lost Sky as a broadcaster (a risk they were clearly too petrified to take).
(Edited as I was under the impresssion Koukash had also voted yes, which in fairness, he hadn't). My bad!
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| It seems strange that clubs were only allowed between 24 hours and 2 hours to accept the deal. That is one if the reasons Ian Lenagan said later he regretted saying or voting to accept!
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| Koukash's background no doubt makes him a tough street fighter but somebody should explain to him that when the voting against you is 13-1, you've lost.
Perhaps we can now get this thread back on topic? It's about the "New Sky Deal & =#FF0000the Broncos".
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Koukash's background no doubt makes him a tough street fighter but somebody should explain to him that when the voting against you is 13-1, you've lost.
Perhaps we can now get this thread back on topic? It's about the "New Sky Deal & =#FF0000the Broncos".'"
Fair enough.
Probably means that from 2017 top 12 will get 1.8 mil and bottom 12 will get about 900k.......so with 2015/16 on the old money, the Broncos can expect to lose 700k+ a year for 2 years in SKY funding before clawing back 300k of it.
The above is based on relegation this year. If you believe we'll stay up, then use your own calculator
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