You get up depressed this morning

1) Gus was talking of 40% increase in season ticket sales. Sadly, but unfortunately characteristically, they've not got anything concrete in place for anybody yet, let alone newcomers, at the moment I'd be amazed if they achieve a 20% increase. =#FF0000If he had said 20% increase would you have gone for 10%. 40% on 1100(thats the figure he stated at the forum) is only 4-500. Is that really that hard with decent deals and a high profile roll out of the new club with the new players we have on board

2) He was talking of a 60% increase in the take up in hospitality, that is one hell of target to aim for, and one that I don't see being reached
=#FF0000What you basing that statement on. Do you know the numbers from last year-hardly any of the boxes seemed to be used. Again % against actual can seemed skewed

No, she was up before me

No, I would hope that 20% would be more realistic, had he said 20%, I would have agreed, not automatically gone for half of what he said



On reflection, I suppose 60% is achievable, I doubt that there were more than two occupied for most games, so one extra = 50%, hardly a massive step that will fill the coffers, but a step in the right direction

Give Gus a chance. I think He is a real genuine fella.

9th, a Challenge Cup quarter final, and an improved home record. All realistic aims I think - although on the home form I don't hold out too much hope. Our record in the last two years has been dismal.

9th?!

Bloody hell, and people accuse me of being pessimistic. I will be furious if we don't make the playoffs this season considering some of the shabby sides that have scraped into them this year.

Hard to disagree with any of the above. keys are

- more wins than losses at home, which will get people coming back
- increased gate 4, 000 has to be tha aim and a couple of 5,000+
- 8th if we do better fantastic, but top eight should be achievable (Hull finsihed 8th on 27 points 13 wins, 13 losses and a draw. 8/9 home wins 4 away and a bonus will do it - though agree home form the last two years says we wont do it!)
- cup down to luck of draw, wembley would be great - but we would need luck.........................

The thing is, if all this time, money and effort had been spent 2-3 years ago then all the recent ructions and ill-feeling could probably have been avoided. However, there may have been a good reason at the time. Probably lack of available £sd.
And yes, top 8 should be the minimum target given the expenditure.

I cannot believe some of the negative comments. The last couple of seasons have been a huge let down, but next year we have a totally different team and prospects. Given the signings we have made and promising youngsters coming through I think we have every reason to expect a good season and push for a play off spot. Hopefully will be up for a good run in the cup as well.

On paper the 2012 team is the best we have assembled for many a season. Hopefully RP can get them working together and make the Stoop a tough place to visit.

Good measured post

2012 squad looks better than any we've had since the end of 2006 IMO.
6th or higher
Cup run to Semi's
4,250 average home crowds or at least some effort trying to get there (this doesn't include free tickets BTW)
Sponsor on the shirts
Home game when I am back in Blighty (essentially not the clubs fault that the wife booked this years trip, but I am hardly going to blame her am I?)

I bet roofs would pay money to see you in the dog house