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| Quote ="Dan Stains woz God"I take it you are one of the "few others" jaybs?
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'FEW'?? Don't mean to step on your toes here jaybs, cos as a fellow 'Ammer I'm sure you're more than capable of defending yourself but 'FEW'??
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| Quote ="east stander"Pengy have you considered that the "on the road" games maybe testing the water given the club has mentioned a potential move away from the Stoop.
A day out in Brighton isnt that bad is it- Hearts in Scotland was a problem!'"
Exactly! On the road games at Griffin Park were forced on us as the pitch was always having to be re-seeded, these games could be a way of taking our club and RL in general to other parts of the South and exposing (ooh err!) them to it! Never know, it might even bring a few new fans in!
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| Quote ="east stander"Pengy have you considered that the "on the road" games maybe testing the water given the club has mentioned a potential move away from the Stoop.'"
So where would we go? Leyton Orient? Millwall? Brighton?
I don't see the benefit in playing in empty grounds just for the sake of going somewhere new.
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| I wonder whether this road trip thing has been forced on us as part of the RFL's development deal (or maybe Quins want rid of us for a couple of games).
Can't see the benefit to our club and I think it could be detrimental to ST sales, as any waverers will think sod it, not going to bother as we've only got 11 home games (and I'll get some freebies in the ES anyway).
Personally, I could live with 1 road game (and would enjoy a jolly-up in Brighton) but I think missing two home games is a but much, tbh.
Guess we may find out more at the FF.
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| Quote ="jaybs"The Penguin and a few others will never change their opinions whatever case and however strong it is that is a fact of life.'"
If someone puts a case I will listen to it. The repeated folly of rebranding and renaming and moving every few years has got us not very far forward in 30 years. We may be strengthening the squad a bit for next season but if all the money being thrown at this by yet another chief exec trying to put his stamp on us were to be spent on further players or (with gritted teeth in homage to GF) on marketing that to me would make far more sense.
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| Could the 'on the road' games be anything to do with the Olympic Games?
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"Could the 'on the road' games be anything to do with the Olympic Games?'"
I think you will find that there will be no other professional sport played during the course of the Olympics - as per the diktat of the IOC. I think it is an outrage!
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| Quote ="Dan Stains woz God"I take it you are one of the "few others" jaybs?
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No, going by the result of the poll/survey (which was not just the Few members here) I am one of the Majority! LOL
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| Quote ="jaybs"No, going by the result of the poll/survey (which was not just the Few members here) I am one of the Majority! LOL'"
I think you'll find its probably idiotic anti-Union Northeners who make up the majority.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"If someone puts a case I will listen to it. The repeated folly of rebranding and renaming and moving every few years has got us not very far forward in 30 years.'"
Wot ee sez, bruv. The only point I can see in any rebranding would be around a big sponsorship deal to "re-brand" us as London and the name of a well known brand or product or "health" drink if the rumour mill is to be believe). Outside of this, then the only other time to re-brand would be upon moving to new premises.
Quote ="Paddock Punter"We may be strengthening the squad a bit for next season but if all the money being thrown at this by yet another chief exec trying to put his stamp on us were to be spent on further players or (with gritted teeth in homage to GF) on marketing that to me would make far more sense.'"
But what if this is new signing stategy is in conjunction witha targetted marketing campaign to residents within say a 20 mile radius of The Stoop. Wouldn't that signal were at The Stoop for a little longer ???
Or is it like I have believed just a red herring to divert attention from our on field poor performance and activity in support of our Licence application???????
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| Lambeth Quin - I think you have hit the nail on the head with your last para. If the club felt that re-branding had to be done to secure us a new licence, then I am right behind it.
Re your second para, I thought it had been stated that we were at The Stoop for the next three years. I do hope so anyway.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I think you'll find its probably idiotic anti-Union Northeners who make up the majority.'"
Nah, quite a few of them have high IQs.
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| Quote ="wire quin"GF-Since it appears success and names dont make much difference could you give us the av crowds at each stadium-ie what were we getting at the Stoop previously'"
I am working on it as I type. Might take a couple of weeks as tracking down attendances for some games is proving tricky.....anyone out there got any links to difinitive attendances between 1996-99?
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Quote ="gutterfax"I am working on it as I type. Might take a couple of weeks as tracking down attendances for some games is proving tricky.....anyone out there got any links to difinitive attendances between 1996-99?'"
www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams ... asons.html
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I think you'll find its probably idiotic anti-Union Northeners who make up the majority.'"
Oh we have a chip on our shoulders, I may be a Northerner but I can assure you I am not anti-union they show us up these days with marketing and the way their premiership is run. Some Northerner mates who supported Saints could never understand why I was a member of Orrell RUFC but I enjoyed going to matches and one of the players I knew went on to play for Salford after I had approached him. In fact working it out I always did well in the Orrell international ticket draw and I have been to Twickenham more times than I think Wembley, the atmosphere amazing, even though some of the toffs on the car park with their picnic baskets got up my nose, LOL, sorry Dave but you do like to put people in boxes, real life is not like that.
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| Quote ="jaybs"Oh we have a chip on our shoulders, I may be a Northerner but I can assure you I am not anti-union they show us up these days with marketing and the way their premiership is run. Some Northerner mates who supported Saints could never understand why I was a member of Orrell RUFC but I enjoyed going to matches and one of the players I knew went on to play for Salford after I had approached him. In fact working it out I always did well in the Orrell international ticket draw and I have been to Twickenham more times than I think Wembley, the atmosphere amazing, even though some of the toffs on the car park with their picnic baskets got up my nose, LOL, sorry Dave but you do like to put people in boxes, real life is not like that.'"
Quite, I am an anti-union Northerner, but only coz I think it is a waste of space!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Really? On what do you base this statement?
No...and once the final home game is played I will post some stats on here to prove that we have done no better or worse than when we were the Broncos.
It makes no difference what we are called..........how we announce what we are called and how many times we invite people to come and watch us is what will make the difference.'"
When I said move on, I meant in the name change sense - however I've never been a fan of the Stoop because it lacks atmosphere in comparison with Brentford and is in an area ambivalent to RL (very few locals watch and IMO will ever watch Quins RL).
Talking about losing fans - I know quite a few who stopped going immediately after the name change to Quins. The Welsh posse are an excellent example. I also have not seen Louise and Steve since the name change - formerly very staunch well known vocal London RL fans.
Crowds are less than they were at Griffin Park, but have been pumped up recently by ticket giveaways. Nevertheless I think the club did pick up a few new fans since moving to the Stoop. Hopefully some old fans will come back after the Quins moniker is ditched
Anyone who thinks a name change won't make a difference is deluded and probably a "Quins" brand lover anyway. It will make a HUGE difference. The Quins brand offered nothing for the RL club. It doesn't even have a civic link which is more important for RL clubs than RU clubs
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| Quote ="poplar panther"Quite, am I am an anti-union Northerner, but only coz I think it is a waste of space!'"
How you come to that conclusion is a baffling as you unending loyalty to the Quins brand, I think Lobbygobbler1 states his case well, I agree the Quins and this is not Anti Union brand has done us no good it in fact harmed us, The Stoop worked first time around but then we did not have there brand, but the damage has now been done.
Why can't people accept a survey was done and a clear majority backed the club in a name change and long term to look to owning or part owning a ground, if people had said no we want to keep the Quins brand and stay forever at The Stoop I can assure you I would not have thrown my dummy out like many seem to keep doing.
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| Quote ="jaybs"Why can't people accept a survey was done and a clear majority backed the club in a name change and long term to look to owning or part owning a ground'"
How do you know?
The results of the survey haven't been published, unless I'm missing something.
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| Quote ="The Penguin"How do you know?
The results of the survey haven't been published, unless I'm missing something.'" Gus Mackay p. 21 of the programme v. Leeds: "92% of the 1250 people who filled in the survey want London in the name."
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| Quote ="The Penguin"How do you know?
The results of the survey haven't been published, unless I'm missing something.'"
Perhaps you don't like to see the truth & fact or simply do not purchase the club programme?
The sooner this is resolved the better, then I really hope the squabbling can stop and we can move on to see Our Club succeed in Super League.
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| Well, its pretty sad and pathetic that the survey results are only published in a club programme....I mean, why not on their website? I've never seen these results....can you send a link to a report or similar?
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Gus Mackay p. 21 of the programme v. Leeds: "92% of the 1250 people who filled in the survey want London in the name."'"
My bad. I don't tend to buy the matchday programme, I must confess.
I'm surprised as many as that voted as well, that's better than I thought.
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Quote ="The Penguin"My bad. I don't tend to buy the matchday programme, I must confess.
I'm surprised as many as that voted as well, that's better than I thought.'"
Ah, well, the question asked was just a bit loaded.
Here's part of the survey:
2. Should Quins RL change their club name?
-No Preference
-Yes
-No
3. If the club were to be renamed, whether you answered Yes or No to question 2, we would value your thoughts. Given the club's proximity to London, would you agree that a reference to 'London' should appear within the name.
-Yes
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Link to survey: www.quinsrl.co.uk/news/13686.php
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Quote ="The Penguin"My bad. I don't tend to buy the matchday programme, I must confess.
I'm surprised as many as that voted as well, that's better than I thought.'"
Ah, well, the question asked was just a bit loaded.
Here's part of the survey:
2. Should Quins RL change their club name?
-No Preference
-Yes
-No
3. If the club were to be renamed, whether you answered Yes or No to question 2, we would value your thoughts. Given the club's proximity to London, would you agree that a reference to 'London' should appear within the name.
-Yes
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Link to survey: www.quinsrl.co.uk/news/13686.php
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| Also its worth pointing out that the reverse survey was not carried out when the club was London Broncos whilst at Brentford. In fact the club moved very quickly and changed the name without asking fans.
I can tell you that if there had been a vote then, I doubt that more than 1% of fans would have voted to switch from "London Broncos" to "Quins"
C'ARN LANDAN!
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