I have always said that the game first,club second in fact I started a thread a few months ago on the VT about this very same subject so to say that the so called truth hurts I could not agree more.

There are a lot of Quins fans who formerly supported other clubs from their home towns. I know I am one of them. It is hard to imagine swapping support from your childhood team but as Marx said " Conditions govern conciousness" and Stephen Stills " Love the one your with". You eventually take the attitude, and it takes time, London needs you more than your home town team. Yes, my relatives call me a traitor, so what. If you don't you stop watching and miss your real love - RL.

Excellent comment

"cjhatesunion" said [list=[i:249x5c7j"You keep saying "your"forum and yet you say when you were younger you were a Saints fan and then you changed teams. I am sorry but to me that is a load of BS,how can you change from supporting Saints to the then Fulham, I don't get this at all"[/i

What is the problem? why don't you understand that not everyone in life backs a winning team and then when they lose a few matches lose interest, like many spoilt Saints fans!

It would be so much easier to support Liverpool rather than West Ham, who I have supported since I was aged 6! - before becoming a Gt Britain Youth Selector I was involved with amateur club rugby in St Helens and Andy Platt was one of the players we brought through. One of our players joined the Saints Academy and he was such an amazing scrum half with a real rugby brain, the first season he was captain and voted player of the season, he invited me to the award ceremony as he was so over the moon and just before the night started they told him they were not keeping him and he went to football! then a few weeks later the so called Director's at Knowsley Road who I had worked close with decided to start an Under 16 team running against us called the Crusaders, now which team would you if you were young play for, so in ended up instead of FIVE under 16's teams in the town there became ONE!

Working in commercial radio even by now I was supporting Fulham as I believed in expansion of the game (I have been to every first game played at home for an expansion team from Southend to Cardiff) I still worked hard to get the radio station to cover rugby league and to sponsor some Saints games. One of the games we were in the box and I always asked if one of the guests we had invited wanted to help select the man of the match, they all said no as it was their first rugby league match, so I picked the man of the match, only for a steward to come back to me and say the Chairman says you have to pick such a name as it is his debut game, I said no, only for a director to come and have a shouting match with me in front of our 9 guests! that was it!

The only games I have been to since at Knowsley Road have been London games! and that will never change, of course some London people support Manchester United!!! LOL

Well, that sounds bitter. The hardcore of Saints fans is made from many different backgrounds. A large number of die hards have been fans since Wigan were ruling with their bought talent and Saints were forever losing and getting nowhere near finals. So you make a big sweeping statement. Some of us are newer but haven't deserted just because we are no longer winning stuff. You have chosen to support the Quins even though you are from St Helens. That's your prerogative. Don't then diss others who have decided not to follow in your footsteps, no matter that some of us are supportive of RL in London anyway.

It's an easy choice for me, the rough end of Twickenham or Richmond or the leafy culture of Parr and Clock Face.

Pffft, sign on LMS

LM-S smashed by the Cas forwards today, particularly young Johnny Walker. Nowhere near good enough to make it at Saints.

I am not attacking Saints supporters, but I do believe that you have had that much success in recent years that many feel it is a divine right, just read you own board this season when matches have not always been easy and the defence has not been good, that is what I was saying. One of my friends a loyal popular side supporter every week moans about other teams lying on at the play the ball, when Saints are as bad as any other club, I would have penalised Graham twice and sent him to the sin bin in the match a Wrexham last night, which team brought in a wrestling coach? only St Helens to try and slow the match down.

I take stick as a Quins Fan as I say it as I see it, if we play bad then I will hold my hand up, too many rugby fans, far more than in football are so rose coloured never seeing wrong in their own team?

Nothing wrong with Parr! it did me no harm as a kid, Allanson Street Primary.

You are confusing 'spoilt' with 'standards'. Most of our team this year are grand finalists and challenge cup winners. They shouldn't be playing as they have been, injuries or no injuries. It's what Saints fans expect of a team largely made up of winners and internationals. Quins fans would be exactly the same if they had a team made up of a similar standard of player. That isn't being spoiled; it's knowing the capabilities of your team and seeing them fall way below.

However, most Saints fans these days are just happy to get a win, preferably without multiple injuries. Expectations change. No reason yet to let them slip out of sight, however.

tm - tl" said [i"Half of our board have probably never played the game so view it differently"[/i


Fully agree, perhaps even more than half! at one time it was nil and in discussions I had with them it was like knocking your head against a brick wall, they were in touch with Moss Lane more than Knowsley Road. Later on and far too late Eric Ashton was the one exception, IF only he had played for his home town club and had been added to the board much earlier. a Real Gentleman!

If LMS makes it at Saints it's a sign that Quins is a viable road to the best clubs in SL, which may mean attracting more players and more young recruits. Would be good if he comes back to you after a spell away.

..... or maybe signs for Saints and comes back to us on loan like they did with Scott Moore at Hudds

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 961108.stm Confirmed that he is off, but still not 100% on where he is to play next season.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 961108.stm Confirmed that he is off, but still not 100% on where he is to play next season.

Don't know if its been mentioned anywhere but you can add Purdham and Gale to the exodus.

??????? unless he's going for obvious personal reasons, I thought Rob Purdham had been granted a testimonial next season.

Where did you get your info from, facts or link please

Gale would need to find someone willing to find a transfer fee as he has 2 years left to run on his contract.

I think Purdo extended to 2011 as well, so he was with us for his testimonial year.

Not quite. Scott Moore came through our academy and was always employed by Saints. He just went on loan for two years. He was never signed to either Cas or Hudds.

I hope LMS stays with you. I'm still confused as to why we might be signing him, assuming that we are.

I was surprised at the announcement that he'd left us, as due to there being so much talk about it, I'd assumed that it was common knowledge by now!

I'm surprised as as far as I know their hasn't been an announcement yet, just a comment from BBC

Has he definitely gone? Maybe DH offered him a deal "if" the ownership/investment issue was cleared up by the end of the season?
Would be great if it could be announced that he was staying at the same time as the money matters are put to bed.
I was suprised to read this
“I’ve been told Quins did all they could to keep him, [size=150including a wage match[/size,” said BBC London 94.9’s rugby league reporter Ian Ramsdale.