As you can no doubt imagine, I have a comprehensive spreadsheet of all SL attendances for games either in the Capital or home games taken on the road.
Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Bradford are numbered 1-4 in the draw-ometer....I don't count teams like PSG who attracted a big crowd....and then vanished.
I've always taken Huddersfield, Salford and Catalans as the litmus test for actual crowds we can expect to attract on our own......with the "bigger" SL sides, there are always a good number of ex-pat northerners who will attend to watch "their" team......and given the average attendance in the Championship last year was 1,095, I suspect that Bradford, Leigh Fev and maybe Fax aside, we won't see many away fans.

I don't disagree with Michael that the "new place to visit" will impact a little, but it didn't impact last year when it was a new place to visit and you were pretty much guaranteed 2 points as well!



Edit:
1,217 fans watched us defeat Fev in the cup in 2013.....1,000 less than our season average. The Year before, 652 saw us defeat Desbury in the cup....1,900 less than our average that year.

Cup games weren't part of the season ticket, so attendance was extra - although only £10 if I recall. These games are always down on normal attendances, not really relevant.
How many were at the Barrow game? I seem to remember that being a dismal turnout.

From my observations with the Crusaders last season, I think that you've got it about right with the visiting support. Incidentally, the club needs to be a bit wary with Fev - they've an albeit very small number of travelling supporters who were a right Royal pain in the botty (mostly young lads wearing large flat caps) whose behaviour was such that the Cru looked at whether it might be necessary to segregate visiting fans.

For sl away fans London becomes expensive if you stay over the weekend, so i think for a lot of fans it became a choice of catalan or London. The new ground pull last year is not the same as champ clubs who only got us in the cc.
The fact we were virtually a dead rubber for every club last year with little chance of seeing a decent game was probably quite a factor as well.
Not forgetting that we will probably be seen alongside Bradford as the big fish to beat.

Gutters does have a point over the other Championship clubs even if he continues to repetitively ram down everyones neck. I suspect we won't be the only club who doesn't has a small away support this season. When Premier Sports suddenly discontinued their coverage of the Championship at the start of 2014, a senior producer said they didn’t lose any subscribers. It turned out the majority of subscribers were paying for the NRL (followed in popularity by ice hockey) not Featherstone, Dewsbury or Workington. Interesting and, perhaps, worrying times ahead.

Good for you being positive about potential.crowd numbers in 2015......i hope you're right and we see an increase in attendances at the hive, although I think 700 will be the average myself.

I never suggested that we would see an Increase in numbers on last year, I suggested that the away support from the championship sides may be higher than folk would expect, I think some of the home fans that we have lost may start to trickle back when the results are a bit more positive. Premier sport lost at least one subscriber, I only had it for champ rugby, it was actually quite entertaining much more so than NRL

Premier will have lost others. They were offering year long subscriptions. People took them out, premier dropped the Championship and I and others stopped when our year was up.

There were 2 incidents last season to my knowledge involving Fev fans away that resulted in complaints, the aforementioned one at Cru and one at Leigh (think it involved a plastic bottle being thrown), both were dealt with by the club including some lengthy bans after the second incident. Fev generally travel in decent numbers but with the odd exception the fans are generally noisy but good-natured. There were several hundred (can't remember exact figure but probably 400-500 though to be fair that number was helped by subsidised buses) who came down to the Cup game at the Stoop in 2012 and I don't remember seeing any unsavoury incidents at all, we were in a separate stand but I don't think anyone was out for trouble anyway.

Fev will bring a fair few again, Leigh tend to travel in good numbers these days, Bradford will bring plenty for sure. Fax will probably depend on how they go as a lot of fans seem to have drifted away but if they are going well they are capable of decent away support. Most of the other teams you aren't likely to be seeing great numbers of away supporters, it's a shame Cru aren't in the Championship any more though as their fans though not necessarily big in number were terrific.

Premier also offered big discounts to anyone who rang up to cancel citing lack of RL Championships as the reason, I rang up to do so but decided to stay for the NRL stuff when they reduced my fee for a few months.

400-500?
That's between 6 and 10 coachloads..........good effort if accurate

from memory we had six coaches but I might be wrong...plus others who made their own way there. As I say though IIRC the coaches were subsidised to a degree and it was a Cup game, doubt we'd bring anywhere near that many for an ordinary league game but there will be a reasonable and probably noisy contingent.

brief glimpse of some of the travelling Fev support from that day and you can hear them when we scored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwMaLQvINk

brief glimpse of some of the travelling Fev support from that day and you can hear them when we scored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwMaLQvINk

Bumpety bump.
have to say.....the nearer we get to season ko the stronger one parties negotiation position gets.
Yours sincerely
got no facts!

Is this DH genius at work again ?

So, over a week after they were to announce ticketing for 2015 and even after an apology and another set and missed deadline.....nothing?
Also, given that we aren't playing a home pre-season game, could it be that the honeymoon is over with our new LANDLORD?
Brave new dawn....

What do you think's going on? No chance of another move surely?

Whatever is going on, it ought to have been sorted by now. We have a fragile supporter base and this kind of delay reminds me why.

I freely admit to using an ambiguous thread title back on the 1st July 2014 when I said [url=http://retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=571348"homeless in 2015"[/url, but what I was sure about was:


I was of course shouted down by the David Hughes appreciation society, the "we've seen it all before association" and also by the well informed member for Barnet FC as to talking out of my 'arris. I may well still be wrong, but if everything is to be as it was in 2014, then I can see no reason for any delay in simply re-issuing last years instructions.

My source is normally right....I stood by their news that we were having to renegotiate terms some 6 months ago and I still stand by them now.

I said in December 2013 that the announcement of a one year deal with ambiguous mentions of 2 years in the initial press releases pointed to blake solly sticking a plaster ( people don't like the word bribe apparently) over the open wound that was us, purely to get us through 2014 and we'd be simple tenants by 2015.

I hope I am wrong

Yours Sincerely
Got No Facts

"A solemn cry rises to the sky as heavy wings blacken out
The morning sun with infinite darkness. Am I dreaming or am I dead?

In search for my heart – Lost in this hell
The vultures are soaring above – Tearing me apart"

Vultures from Rise of the Tyrant, Arch Enemy (2007)

Einstein can't be classed as witless
He claimed atoms were the littlest
When you did a bit of splitting-em-ness
Frighten everybody less

Ian Dury & The Blockheads - There Ain't Half Been Some Clever Bastards (1991)

Shambles to actually name a date for the announcement and not stick to it. Better to say "we're working on it, be ready ASAP, we apologise for the delay" than give out wrong info surely

lets go play at Doncaster like everyone else

Yep, we are a total shambles as usual, lmao!

One day they're gonna give us all a heart attack and have a happy, steady stadium set-up, season ticket and match day ticketing sorted, a new kit, in time for Christmas....mmmm....maybe not!

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