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Some people are gone but not forgotten.
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| It would seem that the Clubs strongly worded statement is another example of people unfit for purpose at the club. The Irony of the London Broncos statement including the term:
Quote his performances "did not meet the professional levels expected'" ...is indicative of someone wanting to sound like they are in charge when in fact, they haven't a bloody clue as to what is going on. Sounds like London Broncos RLFC have sacked a player who was actually "unwell"
[urlhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/sean-long-suicide-bid-rugby-3197278[/url
Shame on you whomever issued [url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_14307-london-broncos-confirm-long-exit.htmlTHIS[/url statement without first investigating further! 
As I said earlier, I hope he gets the help he needs and gets through this terrible time with the support of those around him! |
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| Quote ="gutterfax"It would seem that the Clubs strongly worded statement is another example of people unfit for purpose at the club. The Irony of the London Broncos statement including the term:
...is indicative of someone wanting to sound like they are in charge when in fact, they haven't a bloody clue as to what is going on. Sounds like London Broncos RLFC have sacked a player who was actually "unwell"
[urlhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/sean-long-suicide-bid-rugby-3197278[/url
Shame on you whomever issued [url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_14307-london-broncos-confirm-long-exit.htmlTHIS[/url statement without first investigating further!
As I said earlier, I hope he gets the help he needs and gets through this terrible time with the support of those around him!'"
Why should they have to investigated further before London came out with the statement? Perhaps he hid from his new employers what was going on and maybe his performance was not what he has promised the club.He was working one day a week, perhaps he never turned up on time?
He had history at other clubs with off the field problems.Maybe London thought "Lets give him a chance" and he did not reach Londons expectations? |
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Drone just drone another drone excuse drone to drone attack drone the drone club drone
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| Quote ="gardener"Why should they have to investigated further before London came out with the statement? Perhaps he hid from his new employers what was going on and maybe his performance was not what he has promised the club.He was working one day a week, perhaps he never turned up on time?
He had history at other clubs with off the field problems.Maybe London thought "Lets give him a chance" and he did not reach Londons expectations?'"
The club has a duty of care to its employees. Money/Wages are increasingly seen as secondary to employees seeking "good employment" whereas working conditions, benefits etc are now a key element in selecting a prospective employer. If Long had "history" and the club were "taking a chance" then I would suggest that a certain amount of research and background checks would/should have been made. As it is, if he was "late" or "didn't turn up" then most employers would at first enquire as to 'why" and try to discover the root cause and offer a pathway to sorting any problems out. The Statement from the club is curt and to the point......and as a result, the subsequent suicide bid coming to light makes them look bad, regardless of whether they actually are or not.
This is not an attack on the club, but it does point to someone not really thinking through what they were going to say or how they were going to sound.
Quote ="Thecranewife"Drone just drone another drone excuse drone to drone attack drone the drone club drone'"
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| Quote ="Thecranewife"Quote drone paste drone self drone absorbed drone'" Not in this case.
He makes valid points and I'd like to see the club make a further statement and possibly an apology, dependent on what the facts were. Whoever put out the original one chose to remain anonymous, so responsibility for it must rest with the chief exec. |
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| Quote ="Thecranewife"Quote drone paste drone self drone absorbed drone'"
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I feel sorry for Sean & hope he makes a full recovery. However the article linked to says 2.5 years of depression while the club employed him for 2-3 months. Surely every organisation who employed him previously should be equally to blame given the scandal implied in the post.
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| Quote ="Torbreck"I feel sorry for Sean & hope he makes a full recovery. However the article linked to says 2.5 years of depression while the club employed him for 2-3 months. Surely every organisation who employed him previously should be equally to blame given the scandal implied in the post.'"
Ah......spread the blame around to lessen the embarrassment? Genius!
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The sad thing about people like Sean is if they go to an interview they are unlikely to give their true state of health if it means they won't get the job. The club may have contactd his previous employers but we don't know what they said - if anything. One thing your not alowed to do these days is give people a bad reference.
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I would say the statement issued by the club was as bad a reference as you are 'legally' ever going to see.
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Here is another article from The Guardian. Not pleasant. www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/m ... ed-suicide
[iSean Long has explained the shocking background to his mysterious recent departure from the London Broncos coaching staff, revealing that he considered suicide earlier this year.
The 37-year-old former St Helens and Great Britain scrum-half told the Sunday People that he had taken an overdose in January, and had been released by doctors only when his mother and brother agreed to look after him.
"I tried to take an overdose then I was going to go into the garage and try to start the car with the door down," he said. "That's all I could get in my head. Next day I couldn't remember any of it. I found out later who helped me."
At that point Long, who was forced to retire in 2011 after injuries had ruined a move to Hull, had just joined the Broncos as an assistant coach – having worked last season with Salford and Featherstone.
But the London club issued a statement last week confirming reports that he had been released, and Long was back at Salford for last Thursday night's heavy home defeat by St Helens at the AJ Bell Stadium, working for BBC Radio Manchester.
He seemed in reassuringly good spirits, and confirmed he is looking for another job in the game. "I feel the best I've felt in a long time," he told the People, thanking his former Saints team-mates Keiron Cunningham and Martin Gleeson for their support. "I'm wide awake and alert again. I think it's just been nipped in the bud.
"Any longer and I'd have gone under. I was off the scale but they helped bring me back down. It's a big thing, depression – it gets hold of you. I'm glad I'm out the other side."
Long's predicament brings back painful and tragic memories of the loss of Terry Newton, a former international team-mate and club rival, who took his own life in September 2010 after struggling to come to terms with a two-year drug suspension.
That led to the formation of the State of Mind , with a specific aim of addressing mental health issues for players and former players.[/i |
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Here is another article from The Guardian. Not pleasant. www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/m ... ed-suicide
[iSean Long has explained the shocking background to his mysterious recent departure from the London Broncos coaching staff, revealing that he considered suicide earlier this year.
The 37-year-old former St Helens and Great Britain scrum-half told the Sunday People that he had taken an overdose in January, and had been released by doctors only when his mother and brother agreed to look after him.
"I tried to take an overdose then I was going to go into the garage and try to start the car with the door down," he said. "That's all I could get in my head. Next day I couldn't remember any of it. I found out later who helped me."
At that point Long, who was forced to retire in 2011 after injuries had ruined a move to Hull, had just joined the Broncos as an assistant coach – having worked last season with Salford and Featherstone.
But the London club issued a statement last week confirming reports that he had been released, and Long was back at Salford for last Thursday night's heavy home defeat by St Helens at the AJ Bell Stadium, working for BBC Radio Manchester.
He seemed in reassuringly good spirits, and confirmed he is looking for another job in the game. "I feel the best I've felt in a long time," he told the People, thanking his former Saints team-mates Keiron Cunningham and Martin Gleeson for their support. "I'm wide awake and alert again. I think it's just been nipped in the bud.
"Any longer and I'd have gone under. I was off the scale but they helped bring me back down. It's a big thing, depression – it gets hold of you. I'm glad I'm out the other side."
Long's predicament brings back painful and tragic memories of the loss of Terry Newton, a former international team-mate and club rival, who took his own life in September 2010 after struggling to come to terms with a two-year drug suspension.
That led to the formation of the State of Mind , with a specific aim of addressing mental health issues for players and former players.[/i | |
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Take it if you were in the same position how would like to be treated? |
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| Quote ="daftdad"Take it if you were in the same position how would like to be treated?'"
I'm actually flattered that Thecranewife seems to have joined these boards with the sole intention of stalking me. It's just a shame that its other username felt the need to hide behind this identity rather than engaging in a debate, but hey......if it's following me the. At least it's not annoying other posters! |
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Stalking you? Nah he appears to point out how you go on and on with your version of reality. He's just less pleasant about it.
Don't be flattered.
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If SL didnt bring his issues to the attention of his employer then how can the employer support him.
If Longy was turning up late, not turning up, or smelling of booze etc and the employer doesnt know about the underlying issues then you can't hold LB accountable. I just felt it strange that LB made a statement about his release with a supporting line about why. What was the driver for that?
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It's a bit worrying that he thinks he's dealt with it and nipped it in the bud. You don't get over depression and suicidal thoughts that quickly.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Stalking you? Nah he appears to point out how you go on and on with your version of reality. He's just less pleasant about it.
Don't be flattered.'"
check out its 19 posts to date...that's stalking 
as for "my version" of reality, that's another way of actually saying MY OPINION isn't it?
My opinion in this matter is that the clubs statement was OTT when dealing with someone who is obviously in dire straits. If you disagree, then fine, but I say it doesn't paint the club in a good light to have fired someone who it then turns out is in need of medical help. He is displaying the classic symptoms of manic depression from what I can gather...Bipolar is the PC term used. |
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Stalking you? Nah he appears to point out how you go on and on with your version of reality. He's just less pleasant about it.
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..Bipolar is the PC term used.'"
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"You don't get over depression and suicidal thoughts that quickly.'"
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Drone drone drone'"
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