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| Quote ="Mr Logic"Leyton Orient would be great. Only 20 mins on the train. I reckon they may possibly move one outside of London. Like matthew said Reading or maybe somewhere like Watford?'"
Reading already share with London Irish so a NO NO. Watford have just got into a position to dump Saracens so again it will not be Watford.
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| It has already been said that its going to be East London and South East London.
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| Orient would be a real stab in the dark, but with the Olympics and good marketing who knows. The only thing in the east is football maybe it is time to give them something else.
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| 2 from Brighton, Gillingham, Orient, Upton Park and Selhurst Park I would think.
As for it being pointless Listy.....what would you suggest for the visits of say Salford, Catalans or Huddersfield next year? All 3 have an average of sub 3k at the stoop since 2006.....why not take a game on-the-road and try and get a few thousand curious locals in?
Gus has said the club will look at subsidised travel for ST holders....so not much if any additional cost to you to travel....somewhere different to have a pre/post match pint and a chance to spread the word......and if it's the price of the RFL giving the club exposure like that seen at Wembley, then it's a price worth paying IMO.
BTW....the 3 teams named above got a total of 6,650 fans combined to the stoop last year.....if done properly, you might see that crowd for just 1 OTR game....and I assure you you'll get more than the 2,216 average whether it's done properly or not
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| As a Palace fan living on the South coast near Brighton, two of those stadiums would be good for me.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"2 from Brighton, Gillingham, Orient, Upton Park and Selhurst Park I would think.
As for it being pointless Listy.....what would you suggest for the visits of say Salford, Catalans or Huddersfield next year? All 3 have an average of sub 3k at the stoop since 2006.....why not take a game on-the-road and try and get a few thousand curious locals in?'"
Unless those "curious locals" are going to start travelling to The Stoop to watch further games I don't see the point. Given the amount of effort that will have to go into attracting a crowd to a one-off venue, I'd have thought it better to concentrate on attracting more people to our regular ground, which is a better ground for us than any of the others suggested so far.
Of those listed, Orient is the only remotely sensible suggestion in terms of size and location. Brighton is fifty miles away, Gillingham isn't much closer and is one of the last towns in the Home Counties I'd want to visit in any case, Upton Park has about 35,000 seats and Selhurst Park is also far too big, although convenient for me personally.
What's the point in rebranding the club as London Broncos if we're immediately going to start playing matches in other towns and cities like Brighton and Gillingham? It sounds like yet more of the muddled thinking that has already plagued the club for so long.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"Unless those "curious locals" are going to start travelling to The Stoop to watch further games I don't see the point. Given the amount of effort that will have to go into attracting a crowd to a one-off venue, I'd have thought it better to concentrate on attracting more people to our regular ground, which is a better ground for us than any of the others suggested so far.
Of those listed, Orient is the only remotely sensible suggestion in terms of size and location. Brighton is fifty miles away, Gillingham isn't much closer and is one of the last towns in the Home Counties I'd want to visit in any case, Upton Park has about 35,000 seats and Selhurst Park is also far too big, although convenient for me personally.
What's the point in rebranding the club as London Broncos if we're immediately going to start playing matches in other towns and cities like Brighton and Gillingham? It sounds like yet more of the muddled thinking that has already plagued the club for so long.'" As Lister has pointed out earlier in this thread, the club has already said it would be E.,S.E. London.
The only point that I can see in this exercise would be to test the water for moving the whole operation in a few years time, though I'm not convinced that a couple of one-off matches would achieve much at all. Presumably if one or the other is deemed "a success" then it would be repeated in future years (assuming we're still at The Stoop).
On the bright side, Milton Keynes now seems to be well off the radar.
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| Although the Stoop is a great stadium and very handy for me, The club are obviously with the RFL looking at having a London Franchise in its own stadium. This year will be interesting on lots of fronts especially behind the scenes.
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| PofD spot on as usual.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"Of those listed, Orient is the only remotely sensible suggestion in terms of size and location. '"
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"As Lister has pointed out earlier in this thread, the club has already said it would be E.,S.E. London./quote
When was that said please, I missed that one. The reason I ask is that on the trip home from one away match last season a group of fans were told by someone high up in the club that Brighton and Gillingham were likely venues for the on the road games. Obviously if the club have now said they will be in London something has changed.
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| It has been said on more than 1 occasion it will be East and South East London. Either way, pointless and stupid, for the reasons Prince of Denmark has stated. The club seem to be determined not to lay any routes anywhere, instead chopping and changing every single year. Look at all the big clubs and where their core support comes from - the immediate locality. Yet we are doing the opposite, taking fixtures away from a brilliant stadium, to play in completely irrelevant areas.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"2 from Brighton, Gillingham, Orient, Upton Park and Selhurst Park I would think.
As for it being pointless Listy.....what would you suggest for the visits of say Salford, Catalans or Huddersfield next year? All 3 have an average of sub 3k at the stoop since 2006.....why not take a game on-the-road and try and get a few thousand curious locals in?
Gus has said the club will look at subsidised travel for ST holders....so not much if any additional cost to you to travel....somewhere different to have a pre/post match pint and a chance to spread the word......and if it's the price of the RFL giving the club exposure like that seen at Wembley, then it's a price worth paying IMO.
BTW....the 3 teams named above got a total of 6,650 fans combined to the stoop last year.....if done properly, you might see that crowd for just 1 OTR game....and I assure you you'll get more than the 2,216 average whether it's done properly or not
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So your solution to improve attendances at games that classically don't attract many supporters is to move the game to the other side of London? Good lord. Having been to a few away games in the past, I have noticed that whenever we are in town, the opposition undertake all sorts of initiatives to get supporters to the match, none of which involve changing the venue.
I couldn't care less about the cost of travel. I go to home games because I like watching Rugby League at The Stoop, not at the bloody Valley or the Matchroom Stadium. Taking St Helens games to Widnes did them a world of good didn't it? And before you point out that a trip to Widnes isn't particularly appealing, neither is a visit to SE7, especially if your only good reason for going is to have a different place to go for a beer before and after the game.
So, going by your theory, the 'thousands of curious locals' that turn up from the Charlton area to watch our wonderful match against Salford (electric atmopshere obviously) do what - all come flocking over to Twickenham to watch more games?
It's the most illogical move by the club since the season ticket debacle (on going).
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"As Lister has pointed out earlier in this thread, the club has already said it would be E.,S.E. London.'"
Quote ="Halfdan of t'wide embrace"When was that said please, I missed that one. The reason I ask is that on the trip home from one away match last season a group of fans were told by someone high up in the club that Brighton and Gillingham were likely venues for the on the road games. Obviously if the club have now said they will be in London something has changed.'"
Um, I was afraid someone would ask that. It's been said in one communication from the club in the last couple of weeks, but I can't find it now. So, you'll just have to believe, or not, me and Lister. Sorry.
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| I;ve no probs with the games moving.
So few of us bother to attend the home ones anyway
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| I went on the website yesterday to buy ST for next year and it was about as clear as mud. I spent 10 minutes on it and I came away with no idea what a ST costs and where I can sit. Really really poor. I will get one but Im too impatient for that cr*p for now. I dont mind waiting for the website to be updated properly but dont launch the ST like that. Grrrr.
Btw I thought we had to leave London during Olympics? Hence a couple of otr games.
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| Anybody know when the st tickets are issued?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"It's the most illogical move by the club since the season ticket debacle (on going).'"
Seriously.....99 quid and sit where you want....it only becomes an issue if we hit 7 or 8k at a game...
On the road games, like them or not will boost the seasons average attendance as well as spreading the game....ticking an RFL box and getting us one step nearer to 3 more years in 2014....
....but you'd rather we ger 2K and change at the games I mentioned, because you like the stoop.
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| Quote ="daftdad"Anybody know when the st tickets are issued?'"
Last year january.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Seriously.....99 quid and sit where you want....it only becomes an issue if we hit 7 or 8k at a game...
On the road games, like them or not will boost the seasons average attendance as well as spreading the game....ticking an RFL box and getting us one step nearer to 3 more years in 2014....
....but you'd rather we ger 2K and change at the games I mentioned, because you like the stoop.
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So you think massaging our attendance figures will get us brownie points from the RFL, and they won't notice how we did it? here is a barmy idea, how about introducing the element of stability it an attempt to establish ourselves in 1 area? Can you imagine any professional side in any soccer league doing this? I have noted that you decided to dodge my other points, instead continuing with your blind defence of the shambolic decisions made by the club. Its hardly like its only me criticising them either.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister".... continuing with your blind defence of the shambolic decisions made by the club. Its hardly like its only me criticising them either.'"
I will be the first to jump all over them if they mess this up, but for now, I am prepared to hold fire and see what February Brings in the way of attendances........as well as the on-line shop, marketing, communications and everything else.
I am fully aware where you, PP and others stand when it comes to the name change, I was there too, but the re-branding did get us seen by thousands at Wembley and that alone is a positive.
As for the shirts and the cricket manufacturer.....I have no doubt that Puma/Kooga or anyone else are only interested in clubs that shift 100's of replicas....we don't, so for 2012 we have a smaller firm making our kit........do you remember the terrible streetwise crap from 2005....now that was shocking!
Yes, the ticketing issue is a bummer, but Gus has said he will look at the level of unhappiness and act accordingly...so instead of being a keyboard warrior (oh the irony isn't lost on me), email him and tell him what you think. If you don't ask, you don't get!
I repeat, September 2010, we didn't know if we'd even have a club for 2011.....DH sorted that out and DH has decided that GMc is the guy to drag this club up to where it should be.......and what is it they say about making an omlette?
It's not blind defence BTW.......it's just patience and as you get older, you'll understand this
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"I went on the website yesterday to buy ST for next year and it was about as clear as mud. I spent 10 minutes on it and I came away with no idea what a ST costs and where I can sit. Really really poor. I will get one but Im too impatient for that cr*p for now. I dont mind waiting for the website to be updated properly but dont launch the ST like that. Grrrr.
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Really. I thought it was pretty simple. £99, sit where you like regardless of what stand it says on your season ticket. £175 to sit where you like and get the added extras.
What wasn't clear?
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| Anyone know who cheques are made out to for season tickets? The letter from Gus about STs did not even have a telephone number on it!
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| Quote ="poplar panther"Anyone know who cheques are made out to for season tickets? The letter from Gus about STs did not even have a telephone number on it!'"
I made mine out to London Broncos RLFC and sent off 2 weeks ago. It has however not yet been presented to the bank for payment.
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