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| Quote ="wantawin"You need to get out more if you think Broncos being thrashed again is a quality game of rugby league'"
I did get out more, hence why I went to The Hive. You telling me you didn't enjoy the Hive?
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| Quote ="wantawin"What is you solution to improve the way the club has gone down hill over the last 4 to 5 years and to bring back the fans we used to have back in the mid 2000's when we had gates of 5000 to 6000 for the big games (Wigan, Leeds Bradford and St Helens). I agree with a lot of what Gutterfax is saying perhaps all of you people who are knocking him could come up with ideas how the Broncos can go back to the good old days because turning up on a game day and supporting a second rate team will not get the club out of the situation it is currently in.
I have supported the Broncos for nearly 20 years and do not have any intention of going to the Hive as long as the current management structure is in place you have an Idiot at the top who has run the club into the ground. You have an back office team who know about administration for football but do not have a clue about Rugby League.'"
There is no solution, but ideas for solutions and progress net to reach it. To not turn up so most definitely not an idea for a solution. Try the Hive once, then poo poo it all you want. Until then, you are just cutting your nose to spite your face.
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| Great day out thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thought the team played well. Few experienced heads will enhance what we have. The team looked fit thats for sure.
Enjoyed the day. Bars were good, beer choice good all in all loved it.
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| Quote ="wire quin" Bars were good, beer choice good all in all loved it.'"
I wouldn't go to Edqeware just to go for a drink!
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| Quote ="RLLDN"I did get out more, hence why I went to The Hive. You telling me you didn't enjoy the Hive?'"
I think you missed the point about a good game of super league being beaten 18 - 44 is like getting beat 5 - 0 in football
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| Quote ="RLLDN"There is no solution, but ideas for solutions and progress net to reach it. To not turn up so most definitely not an idea for a solution. Try the Hive once, then poo poo it all you want. Until then, you are just cutting your nose to spite your face.'"
Why ask Gutterfax to provide solutions when you are now saying there are no solutions.
I have nothing against Broncos playing at the Hive or any other ground in the world my objection is against the way the club is being run, until you get rid of the idiot at the top the club is not going to succeed, this is not only my opinion but the opinion of hundreds of fans who have stopped supporting the Broncos over the last 5 years. What makes the Hive different to the many grounds the Broncos have played at over the years since they started you have seats, bars, food outlets and a game of Rugby League the same as what they have provided. What makes a successful club money, good management and a winning team as it stands Barnet score 0 out of 3 so what makes you think you can turn round a very sick Rugby League outfit who also at the end of the day just survives.
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| Quote ="wantawin"I think you missed the point about a good game of super league being beaten 18 - 44 is like getting beat 5 - 0 in football'"
At the same time, results don't often tell the tale of how a game went in terms of missed opportunities, poor refereeing in terms of a quite a forward passes missed today by the officials and the fight back from the players when last year heads would have dropped.
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| Quote ="wantawin"Why ask Gutterfax to provide solutions when you are now saying there are no solutions.
I have nothing against Broncos playing at the Hive or any other ground in the world my objection is against the way the club is being run, until you get rid of the idiot at the top the club is not going to succeed, this is not only my opinion but the opinion of hundreds of fans who have stopped supporting the Broncos over the last 5 years. What makes the Hive different to the many grounds the Broncos have played at over the years since they started you have seats, bars, food outlets and a game of Rugby League the same as what they have provided. What makes a successful club money, good management and a winning team as it stands Barnet score 0 out of 3 so what makes you think you can turn round a very sick Rugby League outfit who also at the end of the day just survives.'"
Reason being is that ideas for solutions are much more productive than repeating about a problem.Otherwise the club will fold and there will be no Super League club to follow but a start from zero with no guarantee of retaining the highest spot and thus the highest advert for the game.
What makes me think this is different? That successful RUgby League World Cup and a facility that International teams have used for their training - Brazil and Germany, along with a Lanlord that wants us there. The future is bright.Very bright.Come to a game, hen poopoo it all you want. Until then, you are cutting your nose to spite your face,
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"I enjoyed it more than any game for years. 16 players (Nesi didnt look d) playing together as a team and competing well. Winning is important but at this stage, with this sqyad, I was really pleased.'"
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| Quote ="wantawin"I have supported the Broncos for nearly 20 years and do not have any intention of going to the Hive as long as the current management structure is in place you have an Idiot at the top who has run the club into the ground.'"
Is the idiot Hughes or Mackay ?
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"I enjoyed it more than any game for years. 16 players (Nesi didnt look d) playing together as a team and competing well. Winning is important but at this stage, with this sqyad, I was really pleased.'"
Most enjoyable for years? Don't know how long you have been going or what years mean. So was it better than when we spanked Warrington at the Stoop or beat St Helens. Don't know if you travel but HKR last game last season was pretty good winning to avoid finishing last
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| Quote ="PC Plum"Is the idiot Hughes or Mackay ?'"
Both would qualify.
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| The score didn't reflect the effort and endeavour of the players, the forwards were rarely dominated, a relatively low eerror rare and the first 30 minutes I genuinely thought London could win.
Salfords tries generally came from a lack of understanding or communication and the fact the Salford fullback would give Usain Bolt a run for his money(how quick was he). The heads never went down, and i think that with the new additions to come and more combination plays in the training ground understanding each others game there's yet more improvement.
I've watched plenty of London games, From Griffin Park to yesterday and I will say it was (result aside) one of my favourite games. The stadium although small (an admission of accepting failure just for GF) is brilliant for RL, you're so close you hear every hit, you hear the player chatter( of which London did a lot also encouraging) the ref talking, it's amazing. The noise bounces around the stadium, I didn't see them but I know Rammo and PC Plum were there because I heard them, it had a really upbeat feel to it and everyone enjoyed it home and away fans alike.
So Paddock, Euclid, GF and all the other none attending detractors, yes complain about the top men all you want, most of us just want to see 80 min of entertainment and we got that, don't dare call people sheep for wanting to be entertained and going and enjoying it.
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| Quote ="poplar panther"I thought Gigot's distance kicking was excellent, the short stuff was poor. Cunningham was better than Moore I thought.'"
I agree. Gigot has very quickly worked out the size of the pitch when looking for 40/20s, kicking long etc, but we need someone with a very delicate foot inside the oppo 20 - Drinkwater?
On Gigot's kicking game, I think this is one reason why both Widnes's and Salford's back 3 have made so many metres against us. He turns the back 3 around but they get to build up some pace on the kick return because our chase isn't as good as the kick.
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| Quote ="RLLDN"At the same time, results don't often tell the tale of how a game went in terms of missed opportunities, poor refereeing in terms of a quite a forward passes missed today by the officials and the fight back from the players when last year heads would have dropped.'"
I still think you should get out more so that you can understand the results of a game, every game I have been to and watched on Sky supporter's think they have got a raw deal from the referee, if a team looses by a small margin you could probably say that the influence of the referee could decided the outcome of the game but to loose by 26 points to a team you need to beat to avoid relegation is not down to refereeing decisions it is down to a team which is not good enough on the day.
How long will the teams enthusiasm last if they are beaten by 20 plus points each week, we have seen it over the last 5 seasons there is lots of enthusiasm for the early games of the season but after loosing by a large margin each week that enthusiasm soon goes away.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"Is the idiot Hughes or Mackay ?'"
I should have put idiots, I admire D H for keeping the club afloat with his money but anybody who puts the millions into a business he has and makes decisions such as making the towel head coach and keeping him in that position when the club is loosing every week to me is a person who business decisions should be questioned. His business decisions should also be questioned over the CEOs he has employed since Nick Cartwright left. How many supporters have walked away from the club over the last 5 years because the club has gone from a supporter friendly club to a club who does not care about it supporters. The point which rammed home that the club did not care about the supporters was when the team stopped coming into the bar after the games.
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| Get behind your team Wantawin, PP & Gfx - These kids need your support - draw a line in the sand. They were pretty good yesterday and Brian Noble made a point to shake every players hand.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Most enjoyable for years? Don't know how long you have been going or what years mean. So was it better than when we spanked Warrington at the Stoop or beat St Helens. Don't know if you travel but HKR last game last season was pretty good winning to avoid finishing last'"
Was it better than when we beat Castleford in the C C semi final at Headingly, was it better than when we beat Saints at Knowsly Road for the first time in super league, was it better than when we drew with Leeds at Brentford when Liam Botham kicked a penalty in the last minute of the game, was it better than when we were 20 plus points down at half time and came back and beat Leeds in Perpignan.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Get behind your team Wantawin, PP & Gfx - These kids need your support - draw a line in the sand. They were pretty good yesterday and Brian Noble made a point to shake every players hand.'"
Nobby will always shake the players hands after a game, Tony Smith or Warrington will always do this as well it does not mean that they players have have played well they are just gentlemen of the game.
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| Quote ="wantawin"I still think you should get out more so that you can understand the results of a game, every game I have been to and watched on Sky supporter's think they have got a raw deal from the referee, if a team looses by a small margin you could probably say that the influence of the referee could decided the outcome of the game but to loose by 26 points to a team you need to beat to avoid relegation is not down to refereeing decisions it is down to a team which is not good enough on the day.
How long will the teams enthusiasm last if they are beaten by 20 plus points each week, we have seen it over the last 5 seasons there is lots of enthusiasm for the early games of the season but after loosing by a large margin each week that enthusiasm soon goes away.'"
I think you need to understand that RL score lines are not indicative of mass beatings but often attributed to mistakes through lack of concentration from something as simple as not being ready as a team when there is a quick tap restart. 12 point deficits can be reduced by mopping these simple mistakes. Also, did you see the 3 forward passes yesterday? What Stand were you in? They were big mistakes in the game while the scoreline was still manageable, but left a mountain to club when the speed and strength of Hansen came into play.
I think you need to get out more, especially to The Hive.
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| Quote ="RLLDN"I think you need to understand that RL score lines are not indicative of mass beatings but often attributed to mistakes through lack of concentration from something as simple as not being ready as a team when there is a quick tap restart. 12 point deficits can be reduced by mopping these simple mistakes. Also, did you see the 3 forward passes yesterday? What Stand were you in? They were big mistakes in the game while the scoreline was still manageable, but left a mountain to club when the speed and strength of Hansen came into play.
I think you need to get out more, especially to The Hive.'"
I think I have seen enough Super League games over the last 18 years at home and away and on Sky to understand what a rugby league result means there is a saying which comes to mind when reading your posts "don't teach you grandmother how to suck eggs I was probably watching rugby league when you were still a twinkle in your Dads eye.
I can remember when Eddy Wearing was commentating on television with his favourite saying that was a great up and under s or being a southerner my knowledge of rugby league is pretty good.
After supporting the club in the ground moves since super league started and on the road games there comes a point where you can not be bothered any more. I am sure the Hive is adequate for its purpose and will be great when we are playing in the championship but you keep on going on about going to the Hive to watch a game will not convince me to go to a home game the only games I may attend this year will be away games.
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| Quote ="wantawin"I think I have seen enough Super League games over the last 18 years at home and away and on Sky to understand what a rugby league result means there is a saying which comes to mind when reading your posts "don't teach you grandmother how to suck eggs I was probably watching rugby league when you were still a twinkle in your Dads eye.
I can remember when Eddy Wearing was commentating on television with his favourite saying that was a great up and under s or being a southerner my knowledge of rugby league is pretty good.
After supporting the club in the ground moves since super league started and on the road games there comes a point where you can not be bothered any more. I am sure the Hive is adequate for its purpose and will be great when we are playing in the championship but you keep on going on about going to the Hive to watch a game will not convince me to go to a home game the only games I may attend this year will be away games.'"
Same here. Been watching Rugby League from here and the NRL for 20 years, so don't you dare come up with sweeping statements. Even so, I would take on board other people's ideas regardless of how long they have watched the game, their point of view is still valid. It's called being open minded and not being arrogant to think your view is the be all and end all.
Try the Hive one day, then spout off.
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Same here. Been watching Rugby League from here and the NRL for 20 years, so don't you dare come up with sweeping statements. Even so, I would take on board other people's ideas regardless of how long they have watched the game, their point of view is still valid. It's called being open minded and not being arrogant to think your view is the be all and end all.
Try the Hive one day, then spout off.'"
Read your post who is not open minded We will have to agree to disagree
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| Quote ="wantawin"Read your post who is not open minded We will have to agree to disagree'"
Just pointing out that highlighting how long someone has watched the game does not make their point less or more valid. Being open minded regardless is what forums are about. Last thing I want is to push people away from this beautiful sport. Hope you do visit The Hive one day and you let us know your thoughts.
Till then, best wishes pal.
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