When there is only 35 of us here on the forum, I wonder what is a great many.

I fully accepted that some did express concerns but we all know who they are, so I'm unsure why GF needed to raise it again. Obsessed, I do think some will not let the name change go, or it would not keep getting raised over and over again.

The re-branding would have worked if it had been done properly - i.e. with a decent marketing budget (DOWN Gutters!). I did think of an admittedly drastic solution to the 'get rid of Powell' problem, but I didn't fancy spending what years are left to me in Parkhurst!

No! don't want to see that happen to you however drastic the situation is!

The RFL seem to be pulling out all the stop for Bradford, so how about them taking Powell to work in Development in the South? but I seriously wonder who would take us on as a club now at this stage of the season and the mess we are in, would anyone other than a top coach be able to put in some input to what is getting close to saving the club?

I wouldn't worry, given the evidence of the past 2 seasons there's no jury in the land that would convict you!!

It's the name change that is to blame



If Powell's contract is up at the end of the year, wouldn't it be nice if the club come out and said that it wouldn't be renewed and that they were actively searching for the new man? We can all wish though.

Nice to see that another thread has been derailed by GF though.

Can that be true, our fine moderators always bring people to task when they do this and issue warnings

Given up in disgust.

Where did I say that?


On this we agree

But on this....


Powell is the problem.......to the extent where the CEO has gone on record and said that all the other woes are don to the team not performing....where does my post below derail this thread...?

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...please, if you're going to be an argumentative idiot, have something other than your and jaybs opinion to back it up....otherwise you just become more marginalised in your standpoint.

The Morning Joke! to take up to Moe, it seems if we do not 100% with the master himself GF we are idiots & will become marginalised, never fails to amaze me with his only I can ever be right attitude!

It's not about me always being right.....it's about you being constantly wrong



As for being marginalised....all I've heard from you and ML is that the club should move east because:
It's less distance to travel to games for you
There are thousands of RL fans in East London
er....that's it.

Go on you keep on believing you are right! if it keeps you happy.

I have never mentioned moving East for months, as there are far more urgent problems to be concerned about, such as if we will be around as a Super League club for much longer if serious action is not taken.

GF I have gone to every ground the London Club has played at never stop from the first match at Fulham, even though I never liked a few of the grounds. When did I ever say it is "less distance for me to travel East" please produce the evidence? you are always quick to bring others and myself up about being wrong. In fact it is 250 miles each way to London for home games for me, wherever we play only adds on 10 or so miles for me, I'm not around 11,600 approx miles from the The Stoop and hardly visit like some?



It is about time we stop all these "petty" games, there are serious problems to be put right, not one of us have all the answers whoever we are, currently survival is more important for the club in Super League.

GF, you too freely call people idiot and that's really not on.

People may have perhaps poorly articulated views, but they still have the right to air them without abuse.

Although moving the East London, or anywhere else will have little if any impact upon the Club the problems are:

1) Results
2) Lack of marketing

and Point 1 has to be resolved before you can sort out Point 2, because at the moment any new comers are highly unlikely to come back watching the crap we serve up.

Brilliant

Lack of marketing is not the problem
Lack of doing the basic fundamentals right is the problem

Given the unfolding disaster best place to be if you ask me.

In fact I'm not sure it's far enough away.

Half right as I said earlier, you have to have something to market first before you try and sell the product.

No matter how good a marketing person is, that can't sell a crap experience twice and who would want to pay again to see us???

The Club should sack Powell now, get in a decent coach, give all current season ticket holders renewal at 50% of this years price and work their s off from now till next season marketing and training.

I understand the sentiment but I personally would be more than happy to pay £99 again, but I think the damage has already been done. Our 'brand' has been irrevocably tarnished, associated with complete and utter dismal failure. Powell is only at fault for what he is in control of i.e. on-pitch matters. Off the field no investor in their right mind would touch us, so short of the RFL and Sky clubbing together to buy a controlling stake in us I just don't see where we go once Hughes runs out of patience.

Lots of teams fail on the pitch. We seem to be one of the few that accept it.

Surely his problem is too much patience.

I realise it's his train set & he can do what he likes with it but it feels more like a live action re-enactment of [iBrewster's Millions[/i day by day.

At least we all seem to be in agreement that far too much patience has been shown which has ended up creating what is now a crisis, good job the game is badly handling the Bradford situation it had detracted away from our position, but unfortunately I can't see anything changing at our club this season has been a disaster so far on and off the pitch.

My reasons for moving East are;

1.) Closeness to a number of amateur clubs. For example, Medway Dragons wouldn't be the end of the earth in terms of travelling time from Stratford International. Its a known fact that thousands of tickets were given to the Medway club for the Gillingham game, by moving nearer more may be tempted to buy season tickets/attend the odd game or three.

2.) 2012. This year as we well know, we have the Olympic Games in the East of the City. There will then be thousands of houses built on the site, which will eventually be filled, giving the club even more people to aim at. Also, the sporting facilities left behind will be top notch and of Olympic standard. Better facilities will result in better Academy products in the future but that bit is just my opinion.

3.) Public transport. One stop from Leyton and you're in Stratford. From there you can get to France and also Kent and Essex. Not only that but you will be in the West End/City within 30 minutes. Also, the A12 meets up with the M25 and M1 which is handy for the fans of the SEVEN Yorkshire based clubs.

Not only just for my purpose.

How do you know thousands of tickets were given to MD? Would you like to make clear that tickets were purchased?

I'm sure it was posted on here that MD were given a large amount (may not be thousands, but still a large amount) of free tickets and 'given' a stand at Priestfield. I'm sure some tickets were purchased also.

Quote ="Moe Lester"My reasons for moving East are; 1.) Closeness to a number of amateur clubs. For example, Medway Dragons wouldn't be the end of the earth in terms of travelling time from Stratford International. Its a known fact that thousands of tickets were given to the Medway club for the Gillingham game, by moving nearer more may be tempted to buy season tickets/attend the odd game or three. '" Don't let facts spoil your rant www.londonrl.com/clubs Fairly equal spread across the capital Quote ="Moe Lester" 2.) 2012. This year as we well know, we have the Olympic Games in the East of the City. There will then be thousands of houses built on the site, which will eventually be filled, giving the club even more people to aim at. Also, the sporting facilities left behind will be top notch and of Olympic standard. Better facilities will result in better Academy products in the future but that bit is just my opinion. '" None of the sites are suitable for RL. Why move to an area that will eventually be filled when you are already in one that is? Quote ="Moe Lester" 3.) Public transport. One stop from Leyton and you're in Stratford. From there you can get to France and also Kent and Essex. Not only that but you will be in the West End/City within 30 minutes. Also, the A12 meets up with the M25 and M1 which is handy for the fans of the SEVEN Yorkshire based clubs. Not only just for my purpose.'" Yeah the links to Twickenham are terrible - How RU managed to get those people to turn up is anyone's guess. Public transport in London is fine pretty much wherever you are. Oh and your France logic is the most ridiculous thing I've heard on here might as well say that Twickenham is closer to Heathrow and Gatwick and therefore perfect to get to from anywhere in the world.

Quote ="Moe Lester"My reasons for moving East are; 1.) Closeness to a number of amateur clubs. For example, Medway Dragons wouldn't be the end of the earth in terms of travelling time from Stratford International. Its a known fact that thousands of tickets were given to the Medway club for the Gillingham game, by moving nearer more may be tempted to buy season tickets/attend the odd game or three. '" Don't let facts spoil your rant www.londonrl.com/clubs Fairly equal spread across the capital Quote ="Moe Lester" 2.) 2012. This year as we well know, we have the Olympic Games in the East of the City. There will then be thousands of houses built on the site, which will eventually be filled, giving the club even more people to aim at. Also, the sporting facilities left behind will be top notch and of Olympic standard. Better facilities will result in better Academy products in the future but that bit is just my opinion. '" None of the sites are suitable for RL. Why move to an area that will eventually be filled when you are already in one that is? Quote ="Moe Lester" 3.) Public transport. One stop from Leyton and you're in Stratford. From there you can get to France and also Kent and Essex. Not only that but you will be in the West End/City within 30 minutes. Also, the A12 meets up with the M25 and M1 which is handy for the fans of the SEVEN Yorkshire based clubs. Not only just for my purpose.'" Yeah the links to Twickenham are terrible - How RU managed to get those people to turn up is anyone's guess. Public transport in London is fine pretty much wherever you are. Oh and your France logic is the most ridiculous thing I've heard on here might as well say that Twickenham is closer to Heathrow and Gatwick and therefore perfect to get to from anywhere in the world.

Point 1. The London RL have pumped money into the East End. The club had a successful attendance in Kent, rather than many at Twickenham.

Point 2. I'm not on about a ground, I was mentioning tranining facilities rather than any possible sole RL ground.

Point 3. You can get to France, thats a fact. I never debated where was closer, I was stating a fact. You can get from East London to France. The large majority of people, RU enthusiasts mainly, say that Twickenham is a pain to get too. Its not just my opinion, its shared by many.