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| Quote ="Wire Yed""Nothing will ever change so long as you continue to bleat like sheep and turn up regardless."
How does one interpret that?'"
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"You bleat about crowd numbers yet encourage people to stay away, what paradoxical world are you living in, the idea should be accept the rubbish situation for what it is, encourage people to turn up and then you might actually see sponsors interested, players seeing a full stadium and wanting to play for London.
Gus is destroying the club through being inept hey but at least he wants it to improve, your attitude is, lets destroy the club to prove that i was right, seriously if you want an ego boost if theyd listened to you they might be in a better situation. So well done, you're an intelligent, articulate and succesfull person but you're also a boring negative ar5ehole, a man who would want a club burned to the ground just so he could say told you so.
How does New Zealand contain your ego, you thought of moving to Russia?
No one wants Gus there but stop raining on everyone's parade.'"
Quote ="brian2"agree totally with previous post.
gutterfax - if all you are going to say is DH is s***, Gus is???! the team is...., we will get relegated! we will not survive in the championship! we are not fit to describe ourselves as a professional team etc etc etc - we probably would agree with some of the analysis, but what is your solution other than saying we are DOOMED, GIVE UP NOW.?
I don't get it it. if you believe all you are posting then what is the point and why continue? sit on the other side of the world with a smug smirk on your face? if you have the money buy the club from DH, relocate and build another club. otherwise give it a rest, as others have said it's beyond boring...... also please don't quote the declining attendances over the past few years, we KNOW!'"
Right....let's deal with a few facts.
1. I have never encouraged anyone to stay away and no matter how many times some of you post it, it won't make it so. The implication that I could influence anyone to do anything by posting on a forum is quite laughable really, but it obviously eases some of your more furrowed bows believing that my posts in some way contributed to the record low crowd at the Hive.
2. I have most assuredly never suggested that anyone accept the current situation either. Not sure why you think my absolutely saying that we should [unot [/uaccept the current situation is actually saying stay away, but the reality is, that turning up and applauding 1.80 coffees and pleasant bar staff is ACCEPTING what you have.......
3. Gus wants what to improve? He is responsible for what we have and where we are yet your comment comes across as "cut the guy some slack"...well him. I am sorry, but he is incapable and deserves to never work in sports administration again.
4. An ego boost It always has to be about my ego doesn't it You may be surprised to hear, but I actually care what happens to the club, regardless of who is in charge. What you won't be so stunned to learn is that the clown in charge isn't delivering after 37 months and 40 "home games" he has, with each step, made mistake after gaffe after error. Because I don't "cut him some slack" you reckon it is my desire to say, "I told you so" that drives my posts.....you really are incapable of anything other than blind devotion aren't you
5. There was a parade for me to rain on? When was it? Was there an email about it? Did the club invite everyone, or was it just the "chosen few" who will nod like approving sheep? 108 points shipped in 160 minutes against a mid table outfit and a team that will just steer clear of the drop is not a parade.
6. In your earlier attempt to glean positivity from today, you said the Hive was suited to our size of crowds. That is acceptance of failure on your part. Because the owner and CEO are prepared to accept failure, it doesn't follow that fans should also accept it. The idea of a smaller ground being GOOD is farcical......but because your buddy who needs to be cut some slack couldn't add to crowds at the stoop (he actually cut them by 40%) he's moved us to a ground that makes him (and you apparently) feel better about the crowds. Only Catalans last year has attracted fewer fans to a London SL home game in 231 events. Go on, put some positive spin on that!
7. My attitude? Your saying I want to destroy the club shows how out of touch you are. I don't need the club to fall any further for me to be able to say I said was coming. I want the club to thrive, but for that to happen, HE HAS TO GO! It's not the club, it's the poison running it that is killing it!
Brian2.....I won't stop posting to make you feel better.....I'LL EASE OFF WHEN THE CLUB MAKE CHANGES.
Not standing up at a forum and saying "we'll try harder" but actually TRYING HARDER. Spend some money, hire professionals and if we are going to die as a Professional entity, then at least die trying....what a few on here are suggesting is akin to euthanasia
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Right....let's deal with a few facts.
1. I have never encouraged anyone to stay away and no matter how many times some of you post it, it won't make it so. The implication that I could influence anyone to do anything by posting on a forum is quite laughable really, but it obviously eases some of your more furrowed bows believing that my posts in some way contributed to the record low crowd at the Hive.
2. I have most assuredly never suggested that anyone accept the current situation either. Not sure why you think my absolutely saying that we should [unot [/uaccept the current situation is actually saying stay away, but the reality is, that turning up and applauding 1.80 coffees and pleasant bar staff is ACCEPTING what you have.......
3. Gus wants what to improve?
He is responsible for what we have and where we are yet your comment comes across as "cut the guy some slack"...well love him. I am sorry, but he is incapable and deserves to never work in sports administration again.
4. An ego boost
It always has to be about my ego doesn't it
You may be surprised to hear, but I actually care what happens to the club, regardless of who is in charge. What you won't be so stunned to learn is that the clown in charge isn't delivering after 37 months and 40 "home games" he has, with each step, made mistake after gaffe after error. Because I don't "cut him some slack" you reckon it is my desire to say, "I told you so" that drives my posts.....you really are incapable of anything other than blind devotion aren't you
5. There was a parade for me to rain on? When was it? Was there an email about it? Did the club invite everyone, or was it just the "chosen few" who will nod like approving sheep? 108 points shipped in 160 minutes against a mid table outfit and a team that will just steer clear of the drop is not a parade.
6. In your earlier attempt to glean positivity from today, you said the Hive was suited to our size of crowds. That is acceptance of failure on your part. Because the owner and CEO are prepared to accept failure, it doesn't follow that fans should also accept it. The idea of a smaller ground being GOOD is farcical......but because your buddy who needs to be cut some slack couldn't add to crowds at the stoop (he actually cut them by 40%) he's moved us to a ground that makes him (and you apparently) feel better about the poop crowds. Only Catalans last year has attracted fewer fans to a London SL home game in 231 events. Go on, put some positive spin on that!
7. My attitude? Your saying I want to destroy the club shows how out of touch you are. I don't need the club to fall any further for me to be able to say I said was coming. I want the club to thrive, but for that to happen, HE HAS TO GO! It's not the club, it's the poison running it that is killing it!
Brian2.....I won't stop posting to make you feel better.....I'LL EASE OFF WHEN THE CLUB MAKE CHANGES.
Not standing up at a forum and saying "we'll try harder" but actually TRYING HARDER. Spend some money, hire professionals and if we are going to die as a Professional entity, then at least die trying....what a few on here are suggesting is akin to euthanasia
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How did you find todays match and match day experience ?
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| I don't want you to cut Gus some slack, no one wants him here, cut your own fans some slack though and you might win some friends and people willing to help you. Currently you just derail every thread and are in essence saying "How dare you say anything positive about anything"
People share your frustration, I do and London are a hobby team for me, I want them back to the heights under Branson as much as anyone, just give it a rest with people looking for little chinks of positivity and beating them into submission, you might not be turning people away from The Hive but you sure as hell are turning them away from this site. I get PM's all the time asking me to ban you, I won't, but you're attacking the wrong people in your napalm collateral damage approach.
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| I think it is encouraging that the lads kept going to the end. Its more than they did against Widnes so some progress has been made. There was some very odd decision making which im sure TR will have to discuss with a few of them. Our safety first approach in bringing the ball out was working fine until McKeeken
i think it was tried to offload with 4 players tackling him and lost the ball from which a try came on that set. If Solomona is here for the next game and gets some experience that may help but we really need a few who can make an impact.James Greenwood the Prop coming back would help as well. Lets hope for more improvement in the next game.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"It didn't feel like a low crowd though, the stadium is very intimate and easy to generate an atmosphere.'"
If you put 50 people in my garden shed it will feel intimate and atmospheric
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Ah yes, very true, but can you play a Rugby League match in said Shed?'"
Irrelevant point, but as you ask the Hive pitch is not a big enough pitch for a proper rugby league game, so therefore you could have it in the garden with the crowd in the aforementioned atmospheric and intimate garden shed. Perhaps the bald fielding guru could serve up curry for the posh seats looking out from the dining room through the French windows.
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| Lol, MY point was irrelevant....riiiight. Really, have you been to The Hive? The scoreline did not reflect how well the Broncos had improved since last week, irrespective of pitch size, a pitch size ratified by the RFL of course, but keep knocking it...And your constant referrings about Gus are getting mind numbing. Comment about Solutions, not moan/whinge/childishly comment about already known problems.
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| I was pleased with the performance, we really looked like a team and can definitely win a few games this year. Nesi was poor though, didnt run with any purpose and was reluctant to hit the line. Good day, good stadium, good performance.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Irrelevant point, but as you ask the Hive pitch is not a big enough pitch for a proper rugby league game, so therefore you could have it in the garden with the crowd in the aforementioned atmospheric and intimate garden shed. Perhaps the bald fielding guru could serve up curry for the posh seats looking out from the dining room through the French windows.'"
What will it take for you to LOVE off ?
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| Quote ="PC Plum"How did you find todays match and match day experience ?'"
I wasn't there but a poll of all that were there said 600 liked it and 600 didn't....with 46 undecided. You get your calculator out and let me what those figures add up to...there's a good chap
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Lol, MY point was irrelevant....riiiight. Really, have you been to The Hive? The scoreline did not reflect how well the Broncos had improved since last week, irrespective of pitch size, a pitch size ratified by the RFL of course, but keep knocking it...And your constant referrings about Gus are getting mind numbing. Comment about Solutions, not moan/whinge/childishly comment about already known problems.'"
Yes twice thank you.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I wasn't there but a poll of all that were there said 600 liked it and 600 didn't....with 46 undecided. You get your calculator out and let me what those figures add up to...there's a good chap
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You like your stats dont you - but then again! How did you think the boys fared on the field today ?
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Nice one mate, thought I was a legend! You know what it will take,just see the signature.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"I don't want you to cut Gus some slack, no one wants him here, cut your own fans some slack though and you might win some friends and people willing to help you. Currently you just derail every thread and are in essence saying "How dare you say anything positive about anything"
People share your frustration, I do and London are a hobby team for me, I want them back to the heights under Branson as much as anyone, just give it a rest with people looking for little chinks of positivity and beating them into submission, you might not be turning people away from The Hive but you sure as hell are turning them away from this site. I get PM's all the time asking me to ban you, I won't, but you're attacking the wrong people in your napalm collateral damage approach.'"
2 things here.
1. I am not a "popularity" guy. I don't crave attention and if I receive it, I do not care 1 jot of it is either positive or negative, so as for the 'friends willing to help"...f()ck'em.
2. Requests to ban me? On what grounds? As I said above, it's not a popularity contest, so banning me for having a differing view would really send out a message to the shrinking audience.....either agree with the sheep or it's off to the wilderness with you There's an AUP and I adhere to it....and as for derailing this thread, check out the OP! Requests to ban me and they wonder why I refer to them as sheep
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PP you are a legend but you need to move on. None of us like it but we have to get on with it. You are becoming far too much like the merchant banker GF, please don't go there.
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They lost by a margin of 26 points to the team who finished bottom last year and are at best, looking at 8th spot this season. The made less yards and more tackles than the opposition, more errors and less line breaks too...all in a stadium that was 77% empty........
a stadium that was 23% full.......3,415 would make the Twickenham Stoop 23% full........we averaged 3,380 in the year before Gus. But hey...nice cheap coffee swings it for some
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| Quote ="PC Plum"PP you are a legend but you need to move on. None of us like it but we have to get on with it. You are becoming far too much like the merchant banker GF, please don't go there.'"
Sorry mate I care too much to go quietly. From the size of the crowd I am not the only one but at least I come on here and try and make a point. I had a great afternoon at SW London chargers watching a very good game, so I have at least moved sideways!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"They lost by a margin of 26 points to the team who finished bottom last year and are at best, looking at 8th spot this season. The made less yards and more tackles than the opposition, more errors and less line breaks too...all in a stadium that was 77% empty........
a stadium that was 23% full.......3,415 would make the Twickenham Stoop 23% full........we averaged 3,380 in the year before Gus. But hey...nice cheap coffee swings it for some
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| Quote ="RLLDN"Comment about Solutions.'"
Done that, got plenty of T-shirts....actually, I've put a lot into what I suggested over the years into action over here for a professional sports team who play in an indoor arena...they have pre-sold out ALL their games for the coming season, so yeah, I can walk the walk as well as talk the talk!
Not that the above is me massaging my ego.....because all I have done is come up with plans, get buy in from the club and then work my (and their) s off to make it work......and that my little newbie, is why you get the repetitive pointing out of the problems, because the track record in the last 5 seasons has been to blame something else, discount heavily and move/change names rather than actually do some work.
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| Gutterfax is the Sheldon Cooper of this site. And I love Sheldon Cooper but he does go on! and of course he is never wrong and will not accept any restraint.
I am reminded of a Nietzsche quote: " If you fight dragons, eventually you will turn in to one yourself". Give your self a break man. We know!
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