Success for this game can only be measured in terms of how many newcomers it attracts and how many of those are persuaded to come back.

I fear, however, that success in those terms will be used to make the case for a move when all it will actually demonstrate is that the more effort you put into attracting people to games the more are likely to turn up.

People seem to be forgetting that there actually is no choice about playing away from the Stoop. Where we go is not really of interest to anyone at the stoop management, they need to treat the playing surface -end of.

In which case it is 'lucky' we got an away draw in the challenge Cup ...........isn't it?????

Regardless of the "supposed" reasons for being OTR, the fact that the club have apparently engaged in more marketing for these 2 games than they have since the move to the stoop in 2006, points to an awfull lot of eggs being put in one basket....

Have you noticed GF, that when we win a game, you come on here within a couple of days and coat the club off for something or another? Normally conveying the same message over and over.

Tbf while the message
Has often been the same so have the fundamental fowl ups at the club. It's beyond a joke now.

Really? Only when we win eh?
I have been "coating the club off" since 2003......win, lose or draw and yes, it is always the same subject....and it will continue to be until the penny drops. After the CEO announcing that commercial viability and 10k gates were the target back in January......we have instead seen crowds drop.......so yep, "a coating off" is the order of the day

Ticketing for this game with regard to ST holders was a farce.......putting a coach on at 20 quid is insanity beyond stupidity and advising people to get the Drain on a Sunday another example of things not being thought through properly......so yes, I will "coat off the club" because IMO they are stumbling from error to farce with alarming prefessionalism

By the way....beating the 4 teams we have this year is nothing to write home about....2 part time clubs and 2 other cellar dwellars......and we are only being kept off the floor by the new boys (who beat us) on points difference......but as I say, win lose or draw, until they start acting like a professional club, they will get "coated off"

Pre 2011......15 seasons of Superleague...about 200 games at home......3 times sub 2k gates. 18 home games since 2011......we've had 4....22% of our home games sub 2,000 gates.......yeah, they deserve a medal

I do totally empathise with everyone's frustrations, I really do. But that's easy for me to say 10,000 miles away and not living what you lot continually have to endure.

ONLY?

Who said only when we win? Not me. If that was the case you'd be posting a lot less.

Your frustration is repetitive on here. Send it all to the club. We've read them on here countless times. Many of us have been converted. Most of us know we are in a poor spot to say the least. No-one on here praises them much. So your medal comment says more about your projection of anger than anything based in fact.

And to think, you're not even there. I feel for the poor s back in blighty, not the ones who it has no real effect on in the anitpodes... like us.

Success for me will be a sound beating dished out to the Bulls

Simpy put....they are f()*king everything up at every stage......I know I come across as 100% negative and I swear by all that is sacred, I wish I didn't have to be, but the current scenario at the club is the worst it has been in the Superleague era...and that includes 2005!

Where's the word "ONLY" in the first statement, jbuzza?

It isn't, but the reference to "when we win" would be redundant if you were intending to suggest it happened in other circumstances. HTH.

Now if you had the money DH has it could be your very Own Toy! and then we could all sit back and be the armchair critics still here LOL!

I wouldn't expect anything else jaybs. If I had 10 million in the bank, I'd be single, but a part owner of a Pro Rugby League Club in a flash



It beggars belief that DH is willing to throw about 1.5 million a year into a black hole with no visible attempts to get the club to anything like a position of self sustainability......10% of that investment a year spent on Marketing would be the minimum expenditure you'd expect for a professional sports club with a Turn over of close to 4 million pounds.

I see that a crowd of 3k or the likes will be considered a success........FARCE is too Kind an expression. 2nd Highest gate last year at 4,253......we're aiming for 70% of that this year

The observation was that within a day or two of us winning we are treated to pounding negativity and a repeat of what we know. It is not ONLY when we win though as GF took it. Never said that, never entered my head. He, like you, were wrong.

Thanks for clearing that up RB



BTW, did you read this?
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/article/broncos-all-set-to-go-on-the-road/24995[/url

Basically is says "the Rebrand didn't work, the teams performances are the reason fans aren't turning up and we might move to East london to paper over the cracks rather than knuckle down and do some proper marketing in west london".

Unlike you RB, the club respond to my "negativity" directly through email and by phone......they see it for what it is, constructive criticism. I post the negative stuff but, often as not, I also post a potential solution.

Lastly, whatever you want to say you meant with regard to your original jibe, it came across as saying that I specifically attack the club after wins.....whether you meant Only or not, is neither here nor there......it's how it came across. As I replied, I attack the club 24/7-365....WIN LOSE OR DRAW and I will continue to do so until they get it right.

As I tell the others who tire of my repeat posting......don't bother reading it or responding to it if it irks you so much.

Or maybe we misunderstood what you said because it was badly written.

Always a possibility, with the written word and how it comes across.

Good for you.

Not really.......but good for them

Same Here Gutterfax! without doubt, but good to see like me you would want to be part owner!!!!!

So....we have discovered that 2,844 in a stadium that holds 9,270 creates a better atmosphere than 1,829 in a stadium that holds 14,816.

30% full better than 12%.......Job done