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| According to reports.
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| if the money is good enough let him go
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| Quote ="golcargiant65"if the money is good enough let him go'"
What let a home grown player, with leadership qualities, and great ability. A potential England no9, who’s one of the best 9s we’ve had in a long number of years go to a rival for a bit of cash? We don’t need the money- but we need players like him who will give his all for his hometown club- not the money!!!
If we get a bit of money for him how would we spend it? We still have to stick within the cap so would only be able to pay a player a similar amount. So who could we get- as good and pay the same amount in salary?
He’s exactly the kind of player we should be building around. Not shipping off.
Or as we like to say on here “let go”
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| I agree with you about Leeming jools , But to be fair would you change job if it was a big step up, and if you were a League player which of the two clubs would you rather play for.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"I agree with you about Leeming jools , But to be fair would you change job if it was a big step up, and if you were a League player which of the two clubs would you rather play for.'"
Leeds isnt a big step up anymore!
And if I was a hometown boy I’d imagine playing and winning for your Hometown club would be a bigger want for me than going to a rival team. And as an up and coming hooker who would you rather be coached by, an ex top NRL hooker or a championship half.
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| Quote ="jools"Leeds isnt a big step up anymore!
And if I was a hometown boy I’d imagine playing and winning for your Hometown club would be a bigger want for me than going to a rival team. And as an up and coming hooker who would you rather be coached by, an ex top NRL hooker or a championship half.'"
He grew up in fax, and Leeds will offer him money than us , we have AOB and butterworth so it wouldn’t be the end of the world I’d rather keep him but money talks.
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| Quote ="Joehudds"He grew up in fax, and Leeds will offer him money than us , we have AOB and butterworth so it wouldn’t be the end of the world I’d rather keep him but money talks.'"
Money may indeed talk as far as the player is concerned- but for our club possibly less important. He’s still contracted next year and I would expect the club to ask him to honour that contract. As they did with other players such as Jerry.
I just don’t see how the club would benefit from taking the money and going with AOB and butterworth- without disrespecting butterwirth he does not appear to me -YET- a better player than leeming, and who would then play in our reserves as we have sadly lost jack Flynn from the club this season. And who else would be available, as good, for the same amount?
I just don’t see how it would make good business sense for our club to take a fee for him.
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| Quote ="jools"Leeds isnt a big step up anymore!
And if I was a hometown boy I’d imagine playing and winning for your Hometown club would be a bigger want for me than going to a rival team. And as an up and coming hooker who would you rather be coached by, an ex top NRL hooker or a championship half.'" ,
Well if you don't see the Rhino's as a step up from the Giants i find that very strange, I would say they are arguably the biggest club in the game , unless you are basing your opinion on their their form this last few season, but then you would have to apply the same standards to the Giants and we both know what that's been.
If i had to put money on which of the two would win one of the trophies first i know where my money would be, not palatable maybe but a fairly safe bet i would say ( much as i would have it otherwise ). Leeds will not be happy to let things drag on for years as some clubs do, hoping for some kind of divine intervention, they have been multiple championship winners in the last 10 years and they will be wanting to get back to that.
Regarding the coaching comment , a top NRL hooker does not necessarily make a top S league coach Though in our case he hasn't had much chance yet ( maybe he can make his mark this coming season ) With Leeming i hope you are right, I don't want him to leave either but i think the reality is that 90% of players would put their livelihood and their families first just like they would in any other walk of life, although i know you get exceptions to this.
Anyway we shall know in the fullness of time but like you i hope he is with us next year, He has lots of potential but it really is all about coaching.
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| Make of this what you want but Holmes has been training at 9 whole pre season.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Make of this what you want but Holmes has been training at 9 whole pre season.'"
Possibly because we don’t have enough 9s to play in the reserves as jack Flynn has quit.
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| Leeming has handed in a transfer request
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| So if it's true, it's "thank you for putting me on display /all the best --and bye bye!!
Thank goodness for Jerry and others who are still up for the "fight"
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"So if it's true, it's "thank you for putting me on display /all the best --and bye bye!!
Thank goodness for Jerry and others who are still up for the "fight"'"
The club blocked a similar bid for Jerry.
Who are these “others” because Kruise was one of them!
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| Getting a bit messy now. Kruise has handed in a transfer request. Halifax don't want Frawley. Typical pre-season at the Giants. Lets hope we can resolve the issues before the season starts.
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| Poor work by woolford.
That's seriously hindered 2020
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| Quote ="jools"Poor work by woolford.
That's seriously hindered 2020'"
What can you do if a player hands in a request? keep an unhappy player among the group?
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| Quote ="jools"Poor work by woolford.
That's seriously hindered 2020'"
Just out of interest, why is it poor work from Woolford if the player's had his head turned?
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| Quote ="jools"Poor work by woolford.
That's seriously hindered 2020'"
How is this poor work by Woolford? If the player wants to leave let him go as if he stays he will upset the rest of the camp.
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| That wasn’t the clubs attitude when Jerry wanted to go to the NRL.
We as a club can’t convince a young up and coming hooker not to leave the sport, and a hooker with obvious massive potential to stay see his contract out when we have an ex NRL Hooker as coach- what does that say!
We are now in a position where we have to run two teams with only 2 hookers- one who’s completely untested in SL. No time to get another and no one of note available. Poor management.
Surely this is going to massively affect our upcoming season.
If AOB gets injured we really are screwed. Poor management.
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| Quote ="jools"That wasn’t the clubs attitude when Jerry wanted to go to the NRL.
We as a club can’t convince a young up and coming hooker not to leave the sport, and a hooker with obvious massive potential to stay see his contract out when we have an ex NRL Hooker as coach- what does that say!
We are now in a position where we have to run two teams with only 2 hookers- one who’s completely untested in SL. No time to get another and no one of note available. Poor management.
Surely this is going to massively affect our upcoming season.
If AOB gets injured we really are screwed. Poor management.'" I Understand your reasoning Jools but it was pretty clear last season that Kruise had been tapped up the only thing that wasn't known was by who I wouldn't be surprise if he was approached the same time as Mellor.
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| Quote ="jools"That wasn’t the clubs attitude when Jerry wanted to go to the NRL.
We as a club can’t convince a young up and coming hooker not to leave the sport, and a hooker with obvious massive potential to stay see his contract out when we have an ex NRL Hooker as coach- what does that say!
We are now in a position where we have to run two teams with only 2 hookers- one who’s completely untested in SL. No time to get another and no one of note available. Poor management.
Surely this is going to massively affect our upcoming season.
If AOB gets injured we really are screwed. Poor management.'"
Wigan couldn't keep hold of their star half back when they have an international half back as coach. Player power and money talks... if a player decides they want to go, there is very little the club can do.... if they keep the player against their wishes they run the very serious risk of them sulking and affecting the rest of the team.
I know in your eyes Kruise can do no wrong, but it might just be that he has flatly refused to stay.
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| Quote ="Country Giant"Wigan couldn't keep hold of their star half back when they have an international half back as coach. Player power and money talks... if a player decides they want to go, there is very little the club can do.... if they keep the player against their wishes they run the very serious risk of them sulking and affecting the rest of the team.
I know in your eyes Kruise can do no wrong, but it might just be that he has flatly refused to stay.'" Exactly CG but Leeming is still under contract which makes it a little bit awkward.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"Exactly CG but Leeming is still under contract which makes it a little bit awkward.'"
Agreed bilko, which makes it very disappointing that Kruise has put in a transfer request when he is still under contract.
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