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| Well done to our coach on being totally honest about the position at the club and him being saddled with players he doesn't really want. I admire him for his honesty he could just feed us the same rubbish that has come from the top of the club for the last 3 years which the majority of the fans can see through. Let's hope he stays to see the job through us fans need to back him and stay patient if he keeps us up again this year he will have done a good job in an ever more competitive league the recruitment at the likes of Wakefield shows how tough it will be. Good luck Rick hope you can get a couple of your own players in soon to boost our chances.
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| The recruitment of Wakefield?
They have signed
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kyle Wood
Keegan Hurst
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Mason Caton Brown
Do you consider that good recruitment?
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| It's better than ours and you have missed off their Aussie NRL prop and they finished 8 last year. Castleford also are very strong now as well their recruitment much better than ours and they didnt run last either!
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| Show me where Rick Stone said he has "been saddled with players he doesnt want"
It seems to me you are determined to have your spin on events to be taken as fact.
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Quote ="jumper"Show me where Rick Stone said he has "been saddled with players he doesnt want"
It seems to me you are determined to have your spin on events to be taken as fact.'"
He hasn't said those things exactly but he has said he is unhappy with recruitment- read between the lines in this piece and it could be construed by some www.totalrl.com/giants-coach-unh ... cruitment/
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Quote ="jumper"Show me where Rick Stone said he has "been saddled with players he doesnt want"
It seems to me you are determined to have your spin on events to be taken as fact.'"
He hasn't said those things exactly but he has said he is unhappy with recruitment- read between the lines in this piece and it could be construed by some www.totalrl.com/giants-coach-unh ... cruitment/
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| Which part of the 7th paragraph do you not understand?
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| "HE hasnt said that exactly" He has also said he is comfortable with recruitment so far,
I repeat you seem determined to have to have your spin on events taken as fact!
Well Im afraid they are not facts, just your spin!!
I personally spoke to Rick Stone on Wednesday and he was very happy how things are progressing, sorry if that disappoints you, it would seem you would prefer doom and gloom.
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| he was also saying we have problems with the cap . if we are up to the full super league cap then there must have been some major panic buying the end of last year .it would be nice to know what our cap is then we can judge how well or not we are doing when it comes to recrutment
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| Stone has been saddled with recruitment and deals he would not have made and seems he is being honest and making the best of it. Interesting to see he has said he does not see it as the end for Ellis at the club. Wants him to get fit and change attitude and in meantime spares some salary cap. Have to say it is all really frustrating at the moment. Gaskell could be good, Clough is squad at best. If we are to climb we need 3 decent signings I think. If we fail to recruit further then I think we will struggle yet again
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| Let's be rite about this! We are where we are! We have tried and get players in still are trying! Stone has pointed out all the issues we bemoaned about last season, fitness, aggression, small squad and is trying to rectify!
With all that's happened early doors, with injuries, retirements and the ferres saga we had a squad that was massively unsettled.
With all that 8 games we lost by 8 points or fewer! For me whole sale changes are not required! A new strength and conditioning team, a change of tactic and a fresh start for the boys...let's back them!
If we need them new faces will come I am sure but only those that stone wants and he doesn't seem to be singing just anyone!
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| Quote ="adamhuddsgiant"Let's be rite about this! We are where we are! We have tried and get players in still are trying! Stone has pointed out all the issues we bemoaned about last season, fitness, aggression, small squad and is trying to rectify!
With all that's happened early doors, with injuries, retirements and the ferres saga we had a squad that was massively unsettled.
With all that 8 games we lost by 8 points or fewer! For me whole sale changes are not required! A new strength and conditioning team, a change of tactic and a fresh start for the boys...let's back them!
If we need them new faces will come I am sure but only those that stone wants and he doesn't seem to be singing just anyone!'"
Of course we will back them, always do. I am just not as confident as you we are as close to turning the corner from last season. Hope I am wrong.
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| Like Rick Stone I am not doom and gloom just reality he knows recruitment not good enough if we had won the final last year let alone finished bottom it would not be good enough the major problems lie elsewhere at the club and are not his making I am totally behind him and wish him all the best but I am realistic about what he can do with what he's got sorry if that disappoints people on here
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| Quote ="hxgiant"Like Rick Stone I am not doom and gloom just reality he knows recruitment not good enough if we had won the final last year let alone finished bottom it would not be good enough the major problems lie elsewhere at the club and are not his making I am totally behind him and wish him all the best but I am realistic about what he can do with what he's got sorry if that disappoints people on here'"
I get that totally! I am not expecting us to sky rocket up the league, just think the 1st team is certainly a competitive one, if fit, settled and well drilled! Stone isn't happy about recruitment but has said this and the fact he is voicing his opinions and making the changes, eorl not at his best and suffering with injury, Ellis carrying the weight, attempting to freshen up full back...he is a breath of fresh air, and can imagine he will build his team although it will take maybe 2 seasons to get it rite
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| Quote ="jumper""HE hasnt said that exactly" He has also said he is comfortable with recruitment so far,
I repeat you seem determined to have to have your spin on events taken as fact!
Well Im afraid they are not facts, just your spin!!
I personally spoke to Rick Stone on Wednesday and he was very happy how things are progressing, sorry if that disappoints you, it would seem you would prefer doom and gloom.'"
It has resulted in a section of Huddersfield’s supporters voicing their frustrations and, although Stone insists he is “comfortable” with his squad as it stands, the Australian has expressed a level of dissatisfaction with how recruitment has gone.
“We haven’t brought anyone in of note yet, which is disappointing,” he said.
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So where does he say he is comfortable with recruitment, It says he is comfortable with his squad "as it stands".
It says, The Australian has expressed a level of "Dissatisfaction" with how recruitment has gone. We haven't brought anyone in of note yet.
Just who is doing the spinning here.
End of the day it doesn't really matter what he says, It's what he does that will count, and whoever he has in the squad he is with us and deserves the chance to take us forward, He is safe in the knowledge that he would struggle to take us backward from last season. Everyone on here whatever their opinions will be behind them on match day, Don't know why people get so upset
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| The reason I get upset is because the club is run so badly off the field. It's my club I want us to do well but it won't happen under current regime Ken Davy must be happy at the end of the day it's his money i wish Rick all the best he's working with 1 hand behind his back !
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| I agree hxgiant.
We're kept in the dark and told very little.
I see other clubs have appointed new CEO's whilst we're still saddled with Richard Cluelis.
How he's still in situ, heaven only knows..
Maybe he's got the negatives??
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| Nail on the head!
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| Quote ="hxgiant"The reason I get upset is because the club is run so badly off the field. It's my club I want us to do well but it won't happen under current regime Ken Davy must be happy at the end of the day it's his money i wish Rick all the best he's working with 1 hand behind his back !'"
But it's not your club is it.....
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| Quote ="hxgiant"The reason I get upset is because the club is run so badly off the field. It's my club I want us to do well but it won't happen under current regime Ken Davy must be happy at the end of the day it's his money i wish Rick all the best he's working with 1 hand behind his back !'"
I totally understand what your saying mate, I have said much the same thing in the past. As far as I'm concerned you are entitled to state your opinion, I maybe don't regard it as my club to the same extent as you do ,because I am not a local person, I have watched them since around 1990 and I regard them as my team now simply because they are the only side i pay to go and watch.
I think jools makes a valid point when she says " It's not your club " It's your club in the sense you are a fan, which i think is probably what you meant, But the club is a business and we as fans have no right to information regards the running of It. Really It's no different to any other business, You pay your money and you accept what you get, or you don''t pay and you don't go, "The position the majority of Huddersfield people take unfortunately".
That works both ways for me though, when things go poorly, don' t let the club or anyone else start blaming the fans, They have nothing to do with the running of the club, they just pay their money.
The club obviously put out a certain amount of info in the interest of trying to pacify fans, It seems little to nothing compared to some clubs but If that's the way it is then that's it, we live with it, The one thing no one can fault K Davy on is the amount of commitment he has shown to the club, The season tick deal alone is about as good as it gets, so for me, Whoever he wants to employ is his business. I doubt i am any happier than you about a lot of it but at least you can come on here and give your opinion on that ,or any other thing to do with the Giants, If your posts upset anyone, they don't have to read them, or they can counter with their own opinions.
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| Spot on mate an excellent post of course I am only a fan jools takes everything literally and must think we live in North Korea and have to tow the party line. The great irony of that is at the start of the post I highlighted our head coaches words people rushed on to condemn me and accused me of making it up till they went away and listened to him actually say it! As you rightly say we owe Ken Davy a large debt but that doesn't mean the club / business is being run well and we should not as fans be allowed to comment on it. We all want success!
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| Quote ="the stella kid"The recruitment of Wakefield?
They have signed
Scott Grix
kyle Wood
Keegan Hurst
Sam Williams
Mason Caton Brown
Do you consider that good recruitment?'"
Yes I think most people would consider Sam Williams and Caron Brown as very good signings. Hirst is a bit of a punt as is Grix. Wood is a sound signing. Added to that we will shortly announce Allgood from HKR who is a big tough unit.
However what really matters is who we've kept for example Johnstone, Fifita and Jowitt, remember them!
Which for me suggests we've strengthened - what more can you ask for.
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| Shannon wakeman of Illawarra Cutters hinted at by the giants fans fb page (they do seem to get a lot of the rumours right too).
His stats for last season are immense (although admittedly not in the top comp).
Played every game, averaged 155mts per game, 28 tackles per game, named in the comp (NSW) team of the year. 26 years old, never played 1st grade, which loads of st.george fans on their forums are having dickey fits about, and seem pretty outraged that he's not getting a chance.
I'd be chuffed with us taking a punt on him.
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| He would be a good addition - just wonder if anyone else might have to move on before this log-jam is sorted?
Seems like it might be necessary but I wonder who?
Wakeman played for Italy in the Euro Nations just gone and is just the sort of player we should be looking to sign imo. Young, hungry and with a point to prove.
Hope there will be at least another two (plus Fergie) and with Stones' connections, we might get some nuggets yet to help improve the squad - and morale.
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| I'd rather we get a fullback because as things stand we are starting the season without an experienced fullback!!!!
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| Quote ="vastman"Yes I think most people would consider Sam Williams and Caron Brown as very good signings. Hirst is a bit of a punt as is Grix. Wood is a sound signing. Added to that we will shortly announce Allgood from HKR who is a big tough unit.
However what really matters is who we've kept for example Johnstone, Fifita and Jowitt, remember them!
Which for me suggests we've strengthened - what more can you ask for.'"
Not knocking your squad at all. Just pointing out to the poster who claimed Wakefield's recruitment was far stronger than the Giants that neither of us have signed any world class superstars and not everything should be so doom and gloom form a Giants perspective.
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