This makes it worse had we done any defending at all in the first half and finished strong against a tiring side the game was there to be won and to score 40 pts away from home and still lose stinks just too many mistakes and missed tackles.

Don't give this team any Kudos you play for 80 minutes not just 25 the final score makes the performance just so much worse any bottle and fight and the game was there to be won.

Of all the dire days I've had watching this club over the years this ranks as one of the worst !!

It can't be a fitness problem if they come to life at 60 minutes.

It's attitude.

Some of those players need to be handed P45s.

Two thirds of them Steve.

Your performance was very similar to how Bradford have played for the last two years while under Lowes. A "we're too good for this and we just need to turn up and be awarded the win" attitude. If you end up in the MPG with that attitude then you'll likely get your wish for players to get P45s as they leave to join SL clubs.

erm leigh had won the game thats why we came back, intensity had dropped, we didnt have it first half

like batley did to us we came back... all about attitude and mind set

Also, once it was lost there was no pressure. They're a good side - much better than Leigh if we're honest - but only when there's no pressure on them.

The spine of the team is totally, er, spineless. Has been for a long time.

I had hoped Hinchcliffe would help this and provide some leadership but that hasn't worked out.


The Giants are flat track bullies who've been found out.

This is exactly correct and has been for some time. Due to a combination of coaching, onfield leadership (or lack of) and general ethos of the club, we cannot cope with any form of pressure at all, and this has been the story not only this year, but for the last few (playoff's anyone?). The ONLY time the team play to their potential is when there is no pressure applied, this year we have beaten Hull, Warrington and St Helens because there was no expectation to win, therefore no pressure, 'just go out and do your best!!' We still have that small club mentality of needing to be written off before we can perform. Last year we got found out in the playoffs, this year it is at the other end of the table. Sadly, it may well take relegation and a total clearout to get this monkey off the clubs back, because nothing has changed in this regard despite various coaches and personnel changing.

That small club mentality is something that many fans share.

Just think - at the beginning of this season we had the opportunity to play a match against an NRL side. But the officials, players (yes, the players) and many of the fans didn't want to do it.

We're a small club. And we're about to get a lot smaller.

We need to savour the upcoming Leeds game, because it's going to be a hell of a long time before we play Leeds again in the league.

Sadly. I think you are right.

I just hope a championship Fartwon is a viable Fartown and we don't disappear from RL altogether.

yep!!!

All this.

If you go down and I feel you wont btw, you get £770k from central and have a bloke who will ensure you spend full cap - this is what the 8's wanted, strong club to go down be well funded and bounce back, Bulls were not as financially strong and had a smaller cap to work with but this season the RFL addressed that. We will have two SL tens in 2019 imo as we will have 20 FT pro clubs, at this point licencing will return.

Fight back!! yeh right, the Leigh players probably had a few pints at half time, the ship had sailed, docked, discharged its cargo, and the crew were having a laugh.

The fightback helped our points difference,which may still count for something yet.

With you on this, 38 points could have been lost rather than 8!

Interesting thing is when we go away from the structured plan we seem to be able to rack up some points! Scored the most points in our group so far

But you've played all four Championship teams. Salford have two more games against Championship teams and will now enhance their PD.

Adam, please can you tell me where you drink, assuming you are old enough, l really need a few pints of whatever your on, its not easy out here.