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| Voting on wednesday in a meeting with other clubs and rfl.
Giants not for it, along with Hull, wakefield and castleford.
looks like it will pass though, so if we are not for it does that mean we wont bother to get a marquee player..or was it rapira
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| Quote ="brearley84"Voting on wednesday in a meeting with other clubs and rfl.
Giants not for it, along with Hull, wakefield and castleford.
looks like it will pass though, so if we are not for it does that mean we wont bother to get a marquee player..or was it rapira
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Could it be Danny Brough?
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| Hasn't it got to be a unanimous decision?
Sir Ken says it has been proposed twice before and voted out, he thinks this time will be no different.
See his article in RLE, it makes a lot of sense and as has been proved at Salford ''You can't buy success''
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| Quote ="keefie"Hasn't it got to be a unanimous decision?
Sir Ken says it has been proposed twice before and voted out, he thinks this time will be no different.
See his article in RLE, it makes a lot of sense and as has been proved at Salford ''You can't buy success'''"
celtic and bradford prove the cap doesnt work
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| Quote ="Pieman"celtic and bradford prove the cap doesnt work'"
Eh? How the hell do you figure that two clubs run by very suspect management had anything to do with the salary cap?
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| Quote ="Pieman"celtic and bradford prove the cap doesnt work'"
but worked for widnes and hudds
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| its been passed, dont know if hudds changed and voted for it but its in now.
so will we sign a marquee player?!?! or fall further behind the big boys...
dont think any giants fan would complain if we signed billy slater or greg inglis
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"Could it be Danny Brough?
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yes we could take danny brough off the cap and spend money elsewhere on the squad
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| Those clubs that voted against shouldn't be allowed one imo
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| Quote ="brearley84"yes we could take danny brough off the cap and spend money elsewhere on the squad'"
Only if we are currently paying him more than £175,000 a year. It's not a free player it means that you can apply a salary of £100,000 to a club trained or £175,000 to a non club trained player. We could count Eorl's new contract as £100,000, for example, if it exceeds that amount. The wording is a bit vague as it says clubs can sign a player from 2016 so i don't know if that means a new signing, a new contract to an existing player or if you can actually just nominate a marquee player.
Doesn't really matter it's a **** idea anyway.
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| Quote ="keefie"Eh? How the hell do you figure that two clubs run by very suspect management had anything to do with the salary cap?'"
the cap was brought in to stop people going bust
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| Quote ="brearley84"but worked for widnes and hudds'"
how has it worked?
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| Quote ="Pieman"how has it worked?'"
both clubs have rebuilt over time and progressed well.
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| Quote ="Pieman"the cap was brought in to stop people going bust'" I think you will find that the cap was brought in to make all teams equal in the money they could spend on players.
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| This marquee player issue is just the wealthier clubs getting around the salary cap - simple as that. Cannot see any positive in this and will be very interested to see who these marquee players actually are - suspect they will not be high enough profile to affect attendance or anything.
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| Nothing much will change really, the same sides will still win everything. At least on the upside we will get the chance to see some top class players hopefully. League needs to keep the S Tomkins quality players over here, and more like him.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"I think you will find that the cap was brought in to make all teams equal in the money they could spend on players.'"
not at the time it wasnt, plus on that note not a lot of teams have won the cc and gf have they? pretty much like the non cap days
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| Quote ="Pieman"not at the time it wasnt, plus on that note not a lot of teams have won the cc and gf have they? pretty much like the non cap days'"
And under the rules probably the only teams who can use the marquee rule will be....... Those teams who have already won the CC and GF......
Stupid idea- the junior amateur game is already losing players to union- this isn't going to stem that flow- just make it heavier.
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| The salary cap has not gone up for years and we are losing players to Australia and Union. However this in my opinion is just an ill thought out gimmick open to abuse.
I don't think increasing the salary cap is going to stop this loss of players and I don't agree with an increase. However if you are going to increase the money available for players salaries why not just stick another £100k on the salary cap. That makes it easy to monitor. What we have instead is a gimmick that will be difficult to monitor.
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| Quote ="the stella kid"The salary cap has not gone up for years and we are losing players to Australia and Union. However this in my opinion is just an ill thought out gimmick open to abuse.
I don't think increasing the salary cap is going to stop this loss of players and I don't agree with an increase. However if you are going to increase the money available for players salaries why not just stick another £100k on the salary cap. That makes it easy to monitor. What we have instead is a gimmick that will be difficult to monitor.'"
Indeed and sticking another 100k on the cap is less likely to lead to clubs putting all their financial eggs in one basket and finding its a duck!
Stick a bit extra on the cap every couple of years, allows clubs to keep up rather than widening the gap between the haves and have nots.
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| get rid of the cap and ;ets see
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| If there is spare money available it would be better used bringing homegrown players through. Building younger players and helping them progress to the top flight. Giving one "Super Star" a greatly inflated salary is not going to make the rest of the team also Super stars. Todd Carney being a case in point. Certainly a star player when fit but Catalans also have some very talented players to back him up would he have been a marquee player if he'd waited a couple of years before signing for Dragons? As for signing big names from NRL increasing interest from the general public IMO the general public who aren't interested in RL now will not give flying damn about a big name signing from Aus.
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| Stupid idea which could lead to trouble for some teams in the future with regards to unrest in the camp due to over inflated wages of a team mate. Just sums Koukash up does this idea, he came into SL with a blaze of glory and threw good money after bad always spouting off in the media about what he was going to do and how Salford were going to win things and where has that got him and his club?
Luckily for us we've got an established set up from academy to first team which is now bearing fruit after such a long time in building, to go with that we've got a very settled and accomplished first team who are top 4 material and we should be able to ride the storm and maybe not need a marque signing to keep up with the teams that chose to go down that route.
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| The argument they put forward is that it will help stop us losing our top players to union and the NRL such as Burgess and Tomkins who have left before
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| Club statement on the change. Can't say I disagree with anything they said.
"Huddersfield Giants wish to reassure all supporters of the Giants that they did not “embrace the marquee player rule” as implied by an RFL press release yesterday.
We believe that the Marquee concept is fundamentally flawed and have consistently argued against it. Our view is that it is against the interests of home grown players and the equality of the Super League competition. The idea of a Club being able to pay an unlimited amount outside of the salary cap for a so called marquee player had already been rejected on three previous occasions and a third of clubs still voted against it on Wednesday. The fact is that the proposal put forward by the RFL executive was subjected to an initial amendment and then further amendment after clubs in favour were unable again to agree on the detail. The result was a cobbled together compromise which could still not gain the unanimous support of the Super League clubs.
Giants Managing Director Richard Thewlis who attended the Super League meeting on behalf of the Huddersfield Giants said: “We have never been in favour of the Marquee Player proposal and I have lost count of the number of different ideas that have been floated, tabled and discussed, not one of which has ever gained a majority prior to yesterday’s meeting and even then tactical voting was needed to get any semblance of agreement through. This decision creates an uneven playing field as only two or three of the richest clubs will be able to afford to take advantage of it just at time when spectators are enjoying greater uncertainty of outcome which is delivering closer games and greater excitement along with the tightest league table ever. The Marquee player rule will give an unfair advantage to the richer clubs which the salary cap was designed to prevent. In my view it does nothing for the development of English players and is against the long term interests of the game.”
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