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| Wrong team selection and wrong team tactics IMHO.
Wigan played the game with 6 props. They won the game in the forwards which was seen with the amount of time Eorl spent off the pitch.
They made far more metres and gave themselves better field position and left Giants on the back foot.
The tactics off trying to play with the ball too much also backfired. Too many errors and dropped ball. We should have kept it simple wet weather rugby but with a smaller team particularly in the forwards we could not do that effectively.
Wigan deserved the win .
We really could have done with Fielden out there today.
Still we live to fight another day.
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| We'll get to Old Trafford the hard way. Team selection was ok by me but I'd have brought Lunt on a lot earlier than he did in the second half. Wood is good but not a patch on Lunt. Still all to play for and if we do make it through to the semis the club call could be very interesting!!!
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| It was the right team as far as I am concerned. It was the performance that was poor. too much dropped ball partly due to the weather but mainly due to shocking passing from the pivots.
I would say only Grix and Chan can say they were anywhere near their best.
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| Was having a week off a factor. As we all know well having a week off before a high pressure game as caused a few teams to go off the boil and lose their edge.
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| Do you think resting almost the entire team last week was a mistake?
Wigan Leeds wire and Catalan are all coming into the playoffs on the back of a tough game with there best side out.
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| Can someone tell me why we need 2 hookers, its not like its the hardest job on the field. Wood tonight was a makeweight, l woud have much rather seen Ta ai, Cording, or Mullally, on the bench, we were deffo bossed in the forwards, still we live to fight another day.
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| Dig in next week lads, you are still a good team, just hold your nerve... Be reet..
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| and we usually beat wigan away anyway lol
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Do you think resting almost the entire team last week was a mistake?
Wigan Leeds wire and Catalan are all coming into the playoffs on the back of a tough game with there best side out.'"
No I don't think so. That game will hopefully have got us battled hardened again and ready for whichever team we meet next weekend. The same could be said for Wigan tonight. Could a week off affect them unlike the teams who'll be playing for the full 3 weeks of the playoffs?
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| I Don't think we passed the ball enough! Leroy only touched the ball half a dozen times, we didn't play our usual game and that's where we went wrong- that and the fact we came out like a train then relaxed after 10 minutes when we looked like we were on top, brough was targeted and lost his head. Hey ho so cats hull or KR next.
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"and we usually beat wigan away anyway lol'"
Not when it matters
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| Quote ="jools"I Don't think we passed the ball enough! Leroy only touched the ball half a dozen times, we didn't play our usual game and that's where we went wrong- that and the fact we came out like a train then relaxed after 10 minutes when we looked like we were on top, brough was targeted and lost his head. Hey ho so cats hull or KR next.'"
But you cannot play a passing game in weather like that with the new ball.
You also have to earn the right to pass and when you are on the back foot in the forwards it is hard to get on the front foot.
Lose in the forwards , lose territory , make mistakes and you will lose a game..
Should have had 4 forwards on the bench with fooey and lunt interrchanging.
It is a long time since Eorl went off so early on commentary it said he was being spelled. If he was not injured than it shows how tough it was out in the middle.
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| Club call could be a bit different this year.
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| I said if fit I would have preferred Ta'ai to Wood with Fuey who I thought played well doing the spell of Lunt at dummy half.
Wigan did to us what we did to them last time out and congrats to them they deserved to win tonight.
We have had a few of these blips this season but our completion rate was poor tonight and for me only Grix, Lawrence, Chan and Faiumu played near their best but the games gone we need our heads on next week.
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| I would imagine Crabtree was taken off early because he was having a bad game. He was run over the top of by a Wigan forward then missed Tomkins and followed this by fumbling the ball in his own in goal area
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"But you cannot play a passing game in weather like that with the new ball.
You also have to earn the right to pass and when you are on the back foot in the forwards it is hard to get on the front foot.
Lose in the forwards , lose territory , make mistakes and you will lose a game..
Should have had 4 forwards on the bench with fooey and lunt interrchanging.
It is a long time since Eorl went off so early on commentary it said he was being spelled. If he was not injured than it shows how tough it was out in the middle.'"
You say you cannot play a passing game in those conditions Well Wigan did! Many times they passed from one side of the pitch to the other- they came away with nothing due to our decent defence- if we had done that who knows! Broughs decision making was poor tonight as was his kicking game.
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| Quote ="the stella kid"I would imagine Crabtree was taken off early because he was having a bad game. He was run over the top of by a Wigan forward then missed Tomkins and followed this by fumbling the ball in his own in goal area'"
You do realise Eorl has only missed 7 tackles ALL SEASON!
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| Quote ="jools"You say you cannot play a passing game in those conditions Well Wigan did! Many times they passed from one side of the pitch to the other- they came away with nothing due to our decent defence- if we had done that who knows! Broughs decision making was poor tonight as was his kicking game.'"
But they had time to do it which is why i made the point you have to dominate in the middle to earn the right to move the ball. We were hammered in the middle so never had the line speed to put them under as much defensive pressure which gave them more time to organise and get their passing going.
If we were winning the ruck we would have pressurised them more in defence which would have stopped them moving the ball as much.
Anyway we lost in the forwards and that is the problem.
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| Wigan got their tactics spot on tonight, it was awful to watch but it worked for them. the constant slowing our play the ball down, timewasting( 7 times i counted them kicking or throwing the ball away) etc were obviously intended to stop us playing and credit to them, it did. can't fault them for trying it its up to the officials to police this and i feel they didn't tonight, Wigan were in control of ruck speed, messing about etc because the officials gave them free reign to do this and we just couldn't get going on the back of it and it negated our plan - like i said it seemed to be a tactic tonight and it worked, no complaints we were 2nd best.
Also, we had Lunt, Wood and Faiumu tonight - why all 3 ? surely Lunt is good enough to play 60 + mins with one of the others spelling them, we are a totally different team with Lunt on the field so why isn't he on more ?
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| Brough is a great player, and has been all season, but when he has a bad game there's no one else able to put their hand up.
Enjoyed the game, after the first 20 minutes I thought Huddersfield would run away with it but Wigan are resolute!
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| Quote ="jools"You do realise Eorl has only missed 7 tackles ALL SEASON!'"
That does not make Stella's observations about the errors any less true though. Eorl would probably say the same.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Wigan got their tactics spot on tonight, it was awful to watch but it worked for them. the constant slowing our play the ball down, timewasting( 7 times i counted them kicking or throwing the ball away) etc were obviously intended to stop us playing and credit to them, it did. can't fault them for trying it its up to the officials to police this and i feel they didn't tonight, Wigan were in control of ruck speed, messing about etc because the officials gave them free reign to do this and we just couldn't get going on the back of it and it negated our plan - like i said it seemed to be a tactic tonight and it worked, no complaints we were 2nd best.
Also, we had Lunt, Wood and Faiumu tonight - why all 3 ? surely Lunt is good enough to play 60 + mins with one of the others spelling them, we are a totally different team with Lunt on the field so why isn't he on more ?'"
No complaints? Your comments are full of them!!
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| They aren't complaints, they are observations, i've said it was good tactics by Wigan to play this way as it stopped us playing and helped you control the game your way. We weren't good enough tonight, you were.
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| I do and he missed two in five minutes tonight. He really looked to be struggling. Brough also made a hatful of errors but was probably trying too hard.
Credit to Wigan they played well and were effectively a man short as Powell was woeful
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| I just don't understand why we would take off one of our three props. Even if hes not playing as well as he can do. Faiumu is not and should never be used as a prop forward. Didn't like it when brown did it and i don't like it now.
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