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| Do not shoot the messenger but I have been informed our new arrival is almost certain not to play for the Giants.
The reason there is an issue is because apparently theapplication involves a maths, english and verbal reasoning test and our player cannot pass the test as he can not read or write well enough.
Has anyone else heard anything ?
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| your on the right lines
it is very embarrassing for the player which is why im guessing they did not say
not sure if this means he will not play for the giants at all or he will keep taking the test
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| Don't see what difference it makes tbh- surely he's coming to this country as one of the top players of his sport- plenty of folk can't read or write- it isn't going to stop him doing his job. I'd like to bet there's a few Wendyball players who are illiterate too.
Didn't stop them welcoming a host of immigrants unable to read or write coming into the country in the 60s to do the jobs no one else wanted to do either!
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| If true then it's ridiculous - I know of students who after just a short pre-sessional English course are here on a 3-4 year course, can still hardly string together 2 words of spoken/written English and who have had no problem at all getting a visa. Can the club not give an undertaking that if this is the only stumbling block (and Ta'ai isn't in fact a mass murderer) that these 'shortcomings' could be addressed when he is here. Not sure how not being adept at English, maths or verbal reasoning is actually relevant to playing rugby league - heck I think a few/some/most/all (delete as appropriate)of our home-grown players would be hard-pushed to pass a test of that nature..sorry boys, harsh but quite possibly true
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| Anyone got Shaun Wanes number? Can they recall hock and sell to us? will be disappointed if we dont get taai
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| Farcical - some salary cap now free - mid season signing ?
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| I heard this 6 weeks ago think we need another quality player if he not coming just feel others like hull have strengthened and I'm afraid we just won't be good enough hope I'm wrong
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| What is it with the Giants and overseas signings???
We don't seem to get a fair "rub of the green" so to speak - remember the Ivan Cleary and Todd Carney fails from the past!!!
In terms of Ta'ai - if this is the reason it is an absolute joke - the guy has a job to come to guaranteed - what does it matter whether he can speak or write english?
Stanley Gene claims in his biography that he could not speak any english when he arrived at HKR - so what has changed.
Let's hope the Giants can get this sorted
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| I blame the club.
We should not be signing anyone without at least a masters degree
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| And there was me thinking he'd got a job over here playing Rugby League. Assuming he can speak English and isn't claiming benefits (plenty immigrants in hudds who can't read, write speak a word of English claiming housing, dole, involved with illegal activities etc, how many alleged terrorists seek refuge over here ? who we welcome with open arms) don't really see what the problem is. He'll be earning a decent wage and paying his dues and demands, how bright he is shouldn't really come into it. If he was a foriegn footballer coming here I don't think there'd be a problem, what's the difference. Perhaps a way around this is for him would be to change his name and speak some eastern european language or apply to be an asylum seeker.
This country's immigration/visa policy is a joke.
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| Jesus!! Half of Dewsbury and Batley can't speak English but that doesn't seem to be a problem.
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| Or we could wait to see what's actually happening rather that pay any attention to pointless speculation that encourages people to make blanket, bigoted comments.
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| Quote ="Code13"Or we could wait to see what's actually happening rather that pay any attention to pointless speculation that encourages people to make blanket, bigoted comments.'"
Well said.
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| OT Durham l have sent you a PM l am sure it went through please answer re Tickets
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| Quote ="Code13"Or we could wait to see what's actually happening rather that pay any attention to pointless speculation that encourages people to make blanket, bigoted comments.'"
i agree, wait and see.
they are still confident hes coming over..the longer it lingers the more the rumours will come out though.
anycase does he even get in our first 17???? not seen him play have we... maybe he would with lawrence being out now but if lawrence wasnt then maybe not for me.
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| Just in case anyone is interested my enquiry to our MP Barry Sheerman in reference to Ukuma Ta'ai (and other RL overseas players)has being passed on to Mark Harper at the Foreign Office.
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| How is it these Spanish speaking south American,or French speaking West african wendyball players seem to waltz in no problem.
How long will it take for the slippery politician to come back with a lame answer/excuse.
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| That'll be because they earn alot more and pay alot more tax, money talks.
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| Whats more to the point is, have they all had to pass the same tests that RL players have to?
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"That'll be because they earn alot more and pay alot more tax, money talks.'"
But do they pay much tax? I'm sure I read that there are lots of sportsmen who do a Jimmy Carr and have these tax schemes set up. As for our new signing if language is a reason, then you do wonder why this seems only to be an issue for RL and not other sports. Well played bilko for digging over this.
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| you will find most footballs both overseas or uk are selfemployed so the pay very little income tax so fat over paib numtey on about 200k per week sould pay 90000 in tax under paye will pay less than 2000 under self employed by using normal legal tax dodgers becouse he works for fatmuppet ltd not the football club
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| just been informed by my good source
the giants have not given up yet
he has re filled his paperwork in and sent it off
hes just awaiting his visa now to come through and it could arrive any point
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| Hmmm just watched a Chelsea player kick a child in an act of absolute petulance! Though the Ball boy diid appear to be wasting time I still cannot grasp how this selfish petulant individual was deemed worthy of a work permit?
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| Was just gonna post the same GiantDee.
Incredible the goon earns £200k a week but goes around assaulting teenagers. Well Done UK a superb role model welcomed into the country with open arms
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| The player in question is Belgian. He doesn't need a work permit or visa as he's an EU citizen. His actions are irrelevant.
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