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| a number of super league clubs are twinning, bradford/dewsbury for example
with the under 19's comp not allowing any over age players to play where are the players in the squad going to get game time that arent getting in the super league team..
guess they could go out on loan to the championship.. but just wondering if we have any plans to twin with another..halifax? batley?
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| Wouldn't have thought Fax would sink to such depths - allowing themselves to be our 2nd club! You can just imagine their fans' reactions!!
We have had a good relationship with Batley in the recent past. Certainly the way to go IMHO.
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| I'm sure I read somewhere about Batley, I know they are in talks with 2 superleague clubs. One thing to bare in mind though would be the reciprocal benefit that could be gained in terms of players, what about a club outside the heartlands, where we could have first pick of their best players. Workington? Gloucestershire? or I know they are not in till 2014 but Coventry would be a good shout considering the catchment area for players, for the future.
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| Why not twin with Sheffield.........again, although you might not get a million £££s this time.
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| should twin with barrow.
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| some interesting points...most of the clubs that have twinned seem to be staying local though not stretching out to workington,barrow, coventry!
maybe to do with the travelling involved for players who are in the position of not quite getting in the team
sheffield ive been impressed with them lately!
aslong as hull fc twin with gateshead
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| Fc have twinned with York- hull kr with Workington!!!
From what I understand from a friend who works for fax with youngsters- fax don't want to be involved.
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| Do we have mods on here, or are trolls given free reign to disrupt any thread they want.
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| dont think we do anymore lol
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| Theres is one thing I was thinking of the other day with regards to the likes of Coventry and Gloucestershire, how would they attract players to the area? Basically any dual reg or new players could study in effect and move to their respective unit/colleges/fe establishments, splitting time between study and playing semi pro. I wouldn't be surprised if the All Golds even start to offer scholarships.
I believe this may be the route for the all Golds to go down, saves finding jobs (but this could be done with anyone, but more difficult). It would though, benefit dual reg players who fall into the age bracket for uni/college study. I know we have Hudds Uni but no good if you can't get a game or have to go out on dual reg somewhere.
Local would be the best option I know but at the mo only Batley is an option in that direction I think. Something worth thinking about, plus you are in an untapped RL market of kick and clap players.
Anyone any ideas who we are looking at in terms of link up?
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| Quote ="onlyanorthernsoul"Theres is one thing I was thinking of the other day with regards to the likes of Coventry and Gloucestershire, how would they attract players to the area? Basically any dual reg or new players could study in effect and move to their respective unit/colleges/fe establishments, splitting time between study and playing semi pro. I wouldn't be surprised if the All Golds even start to offer scholarships.
I believe this may be the route for the all Golds to go down, saves finding jobs (but this could be done with anyone, but more difficult). It would though, benefit dual reg players who fall into the age bracket for uni/college study. I know we have Hudds Uni but no good if you can't get a game or have to go out on dual reg somewhere.
Local would be the best option I know but at the mo only Batley is an option in that direction I think. Something worth thinking about, plus you are in an untapped RL market of kick and clap players.
Anyone any ideas who we are looking at in terms of link up?'"
As a Giants fan who also supports South Wales Scorpions when I can I'd say the scheme has been a nightmare in my opinion as they must have used well over a dozen Wigan players last season but very few played more than 1 or 2 games and half the time it seemed Wane and Harris had more control on who played than Dave Clarke. Also had the "interesting" situation of Tom Spencer playing for Wigan on Good Friday, SWS on the Monday and Leigh on the following Thursday which does not really sit well with me.
From a Giants point of view I can see benefits and if we have a settled 18 or 20 man nucleus of a squad it could work well with players not in contention basically going to wherever and it being seen as a long term thing so they can settle in and be part of the other club if it is just giving player a game now and then do not think it really benefits anyone be it either club or the player but with the new rules its is going to be messy and could well turn alot of people off the lower level game if not handled correctly.
I would much prefer a situation as in football where players go on set loan periods but can be recalled due to injury or suspensions as it at least gives some stabiblity and everyone knows where they stand.
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| We got to the point of sending a few lads to Batley a year over the past few seasons, didnt Jerry go for a bit?
Interesting to see Alex Brown has signed for Hull KR, will be interesting to see how he goes for them, always thought he looked a decent prospect for us, decent bit of pace plus hes an absolute unit! Probably make or break for him next year isnt he about 24/25?
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| Quote ="'fro nips"We got to the point of sending a few lads to Batley a year over the past few seasons, didnt Jerry go for a bit?
Interesting to see Alex Brown has signed for Hull KR, will be interesting to see how he goes for them, always thought he looked a decent prospect for us, decent bit of pace plus hes an absolute unit! Probably make or break for him next year isnt he about 24/25?'"
I like the idea of informal link ups such as that but when a SL side starts dictating who plays for the Champ/Champ 1 club it does not sit well for me.
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| Quote ="'fro nips"We got to the point of sending a few lads to Batley a year over the past few seasons, didnt Jerry go for a bit?
Interesting to see Alex Brown has signed for Hull KR, will be interesting to see how he goes for them, always thought he looked a decent prospect for us, decent bit of pace plus hes an absolute unit! Probably make or break for him next year isnt he about 24/25?'"
always liked brown.. played one super league game for us but im afraid he came along at the same time as mcgillvary and that johnson who was going to break through till his brush with the law.
could go very well for hull kr.
hull kr have linked up with workington distance doesnt seem to be a problem then!
halifax dont seem to be interested fev wont either, seeing as they have aspirations to be in super league, as do leigh and sheffield..batley on the other hand dont so you would think they are faves if we do decide to twin
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| Wasnt it only clubs allowed to choose that got a B Grade?
What did yous get, I cant remember?
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| Huddersfield Giants got a B grade, as did the old Bradford Bulls, if you look what happened there it suggests the grades mean little outside the licencing process.
Incidently the OK Bulls are not a B grade, they were not part of the licencing round but have been granted a Provisional Licence.
Whatever, as Bradford have twinned with Dewsbury I think your premise that only certain grades could twin is wrong. At least on paper, Bradford have the least sustainable licence in Super League
(In reality there are now probably at least 3 or 4 clubs at greater risk than Bradford, but rightly or wrongly the franchise licences are the baseline used).
Try again sometime
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| Quote ="brearley84"always liked brown.. played one super league game for us but im afraid he came along at the same time as mcgillvary and that johnson who was going to break through till his brush with the law.
could go very well for hull kr.
hull kr have linked up with workington
distance doesnt seem to be a problem then!
halifax dont seem to be interested
fev wont either, seeing as they have aspirations to be in super league, as do leigh and sheffield..batley on the other hand dont so you would think they are faves if we do decide to twin'"
I'm with the clubs who want to stay out of it, Crusaders for example did far better by taking a few players from Widnes on loan than Scorpions did using a dozen Wigan players who were there for a day. Distance is irrelevant as the SL players will not be training with their "junior" club in likelihood and if they play for Workington at say Donny they will go straight there and perhaps only ever meet their "team mates" in the dressing room.
Another factor is it could even limit players as if in a few years we had two or 3 good up and coming props (we can dream) would we be able to send them on loan to say Hunslet or York without upsetting the club we are tied to who might not want or need extra players in that position (or causing problems between that club and whoever they are tied to).
In our case I would again say avoid it as if we do stay out of it there will be at least 10 or more lower level "independent" clubs who are there to take players on loan from whoever they want and as some of them will be the best teams at that level it is no bad thing not to get involved.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Wasnt it only clubs allowed to choose that got a B Grade?
What did yous get, I cant remember?'"
Nothing to do with franchise score. Only those clubs that got a Green rating for its academy setup are allowed to do this. It doesn't stop clubs like Huddersfield from putting dual reg contracts, loan deals etc etc in place.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"I wasnt having a dig, I genuinley couldn't remember. I thought that's how it was, but cookie has explained how it works.'"
For your records, we got a B.
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| Look how jerry, walker and wardle have turned out when they came back from barrow!
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| Quote ="GiantsForLife"Look how jerry, walker and wardle have turned out when they came back from barrow!'"
jerry was already destined for stardom
wardle went to barrow?? not heard that one before?
sure the club will have thought about it and do what they feels will benefit them
york and hull fc link up confirmed today... they will upto 5 players to york at a time i think.. we could of done something with york maybe with chris thormans links?
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| Quote ="brearley84"jerry was already destined for stardom
wardle went to barrow?? not heard that one before?
sure the club will have thought about it and do what they feels will benefit them
york and hull fc link up confirmed today... they will upto 5 players to york at a time i think.. we could of done something with york maybe with chris thormans links?'"
Yes wardle did, only got a few games though
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| Should twin with Devon Sharks and players could call round me mums house for a cuppa
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| Can we twin with Melbourne Storm?
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