Good luck guys for tomorrows game and a special congratulations to Robbo and Griff on their full international debut (?).

Good luck to all 3. All deserve to play and hope they do the club and most importantly themselves proud

Absolutely. We are all very proud of the players picked. I wish them all well. Do your best boys!

We nearly had 2 try scorers.

Was Brown impeded before he pushed?

Robbo almost did a 'Drew'!

all did there job well... the pick of the bunch was prob robbo

I would like to see Brown attack the line more but it seems that Macca wants him to run across the line and give the inside ball all the time.

Please tell me you're kidding!

so you think brown and griffin were better

It's no surprise that your most active topic happens to be called "Our Huddersfield Trolls" on the Leeds Board is it?

All we have to do is to simply look at your profile and we can see you are fishing.

Apart from the daft penalty that gave NZ field position for their third try, and making exactly the same mistake as he did last week in letting a player get on the outside of him (NZ fourth try) and not tracking across.

Griffin was poor and although I've always liked Brown he was totally out of his depth today.

Crabtree for Griffin next week and O'Loughlin to stand off.

At least these guys were TRYING to get involved. Unlike Joel Tomkins. He did absolutely nothing again. Infact Manu Vatuvei had a better game than J.Tomkins.

crabtree in for fielden more like

brown did ok today... we know hes not a kicker at the giants though which lets him down.

joel tomkins (was he on the pitch) and goulding was poor today too, nz targeted him and he wasnt upto it.

Brown gave the pass to O'Loughlin to assist in his break and also gave the pass to Widdop for his try. IMO it's more of what Macca is wanting him to do that is the issue rather than Brown's performance itself. But then, it's all too easy to look for scapegoats on the pitch, isn't it.

Sorry sweetheart but if my most active topic is on OUR board how does that equate to ME 'fishing'. I'm flattered that you care so much though!
I thought Robbo was the better of the 3 but to say 'all did there (sic) job well' is blinkered-fekkwittery the like of which would send Kieth Swiftcorn (the pish-artist formerly known as AP) apoplectic. I see you and the Wigan fans are now involved in a 'your player was crapper than our player' spat on the VT. Hilarious!

How did you rate the Leeds players?

Who's obsessed with Joel now ey! haha.

Joel didn't get on the pitch till mid-way through the 2nd half did he? Started the move for our 2nd try with quick hands and tackled anything that came near him.

Robbo had a good game when he was on, lively and always looked like he was getting the forwards and backs linked.

Griff was solid, did the hard yards and the tough work

Brown was out of the game for the first quarter, but then so was the rest of the team. Once he got involved he was looking pretty good, as has been said put O'Loughlin through a gap (who could have passed left to Robbo for a better scoring chance), Put Widdop in for his try

Fielden was garbage, got knocked back every time he took the ball up and was generally annonymous
Widdop was garbage, showed why he cant get a 1st team game
Joel Tomkins, did he play?

I think Brown and Robbo need to start in the halves, Widdop needs to be dropped and Sam Tomkins back to fullback and Crabtree to replace Fielden

Quote ="Code13" Griff was solid, did the hard yards and the tough work '" Robinson did have a good game, again. Unfortunate that his legs are about a foot long though! Griffin did hardly any tough work and didn't make any hard yards according to the stats. 5 drives for 33 metres and 17 tackles compared to Fieldens 12 drives for 85 + 25 tackles (albeit with a couple of errors). I can barely remember Griffin taking a drive in! I'd have Crabtree in but ahead of Griffin. live.nrlstats.com/matches/nrl/match3976.html Wish they'd put the minutes up though, hard to keep track of how long everyone was on the pitch.

Quote ="Code13" Griff was solid, did the hard yards and the tough work '" Robinson did have a good game, again. Unfortunate that his legs are about a foot long though! Griffin did hardly any tough work and didn't make any hard yards according to the stats. 5 drives for 33 metres and 17 tackles compared to Fieldens 12 drives for 85 + 25 tackles (albeit with a couple of errors). I can barely remember Griffin taking a drive in! I'd have Crabtree in but ahead of Griffin. live.nrlstats.com/matches/nrl/match3976.html Wish they'd put the minutes up though, hard to keep track of how long everyone was on the pitch.

Apart from Robinson all the other Hudds players were anonymous. Poor showing all round.

My take on the Giants players:

It looked to me like Brown's been told to play second fiddle to Tomkins. Or maybe he's lacking confidence. He didn't try to do much with the ball in hand. He was unlucky with the kick that went out on the full. He's a better player than he's showed so far though and should back himself more.

I thought Griffin was pretty poor defensively. He needs to get more aggressive. I noticed he looked at Isaac Luke in half shock when Luke started justling at the PTB. TBH, I would have had Crabtree in there for his offloads against the Kiwis.

Robinson did well, though he made the mistake of pulling the defensive line out of shape for Marshall's try in the mid/late second half. Marshall and the centre (Nightingale? sp) are class though.

With a kind video ref could have been a different game. Best team won though.

Drop Widdup and Atkins, Tomkins to fullback, Robinson to scrum half and Lunty on the Bench.

Crabtree to replace Griffin. Cudjoe on the wing and Darryl Goulding at Centre.

Would have said drop Shenton but e was much improved in the second stanza.

The idea of O'loughlin at 6 is laughable. If Farrel and sculthorpe couldn't do it then he certainly can't

Just doing to wind you up to be totally honest. I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

Those stats you put up from the NRL website are very interesting. O'Loughlin really did put in a massive defensive effort.

lol, I got incredibly wound up. Honest.

That's why I stopped for a few hours. I wasn't busy doing other things.

Aye, the best team definitely won.

Atkins and Brown were in the same boat IMO. They hesitated and didn't assert themselves. If they play with confidence and don't cut it then fair enough. It's a shame that professionals who make their mark in SL doubt themselves in an international. That's how it looked to me anyway.

I think you're maybe being harsh on Widdup. Apart from the knock on he was pretty solid. And he was out in the centres for a quarter of the game which is not his natural position. And he doesn't know any of his team mates like the others.