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| If he had half a decent game last you would have beat Saints comfortably - he was shocking - does he actually look where he his passing the ball?
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| Have to agree but Saints were solid last night. We missed Brown last night.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms" you would have beat Saints comfortably
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"Quote ="Serge A. Storms" you would have beat Saints comfortably
wind up of the day this one..
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He's been on the Wakey board trying to "wind up" thankfully he's like tissue paper.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Quote ="RIGSBY"
He's been on the Wakey board trying to "wind up" thankfully he's like tissue paper.'" '"
This is not a wind up - if Huddersfield had had a half back that had played anything like the result would have been the same as the SF - sadly the x-factor on that day Kevin Brown wasn't playing. Robinson was unable to control the plays when it really mattered - Saints were pretty poor on the night and were there for the taking - I lost count of the number of errors Robinson made in the middle 20 minutes of the 2nd half when the Giants had Saints on the rack.
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| robinson is a decent half back for the bottom half of SL. If you want to win the biggest games he is out of his depth.
He can't kick , can't pass l to r and cannot control a game. Big heart and nice guy but lacking what it takes.
Looking at the wakey game last nice we could do with someone like a Drew ( playing better) or a Grix
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"had had a half back that had played anything like the result would have been the same as the SF - sadly the x-factor on that day Kevin Brown wasn't playing. Robinson was unable to control the plays when it really mattered - Saints were pretty poor on the night and were there for the taking - I lost count of the number of errors Robinson made in the middle 20 minutes of the 2nd half when the Giants had Saints on the rack.'"
I'm very aware of how rubbish Saints have been for a lot of this season, and indeed have readily admitted it. However, on this occasion you are talking total bollox. We defended last night like our lives depended on it. Had we not given our own silly penalties away - something that needs to be addressed - we would have nilled Hudds. The reason for that was our defence, which we used to pin Hudds down, just as they used it against us in the CC semi. Likewise, Hudds defended very well themselves. We were helped with one try in that a forward pass went undetected, but other than that Hudds never stopped their own pressure all night. It was down to who had the best defence and last night, it happened to be us. It would not have mattered who Hudds played, we were up for it last night and we had clearly worked hard on rediscovering the one thing we really can do well when we want to and that is defend.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I'm very aware of how rubbish Saints have been for a lot of this season, and indeed have readily admitted it. However, on this occasion you are talking total bollox. We defended last night like our lives depended on it. Had we not given our own silly penalties away - something that needs to be addressed - we would have nilled Hudds. The reason for that was our defence, which we used to pin Hudds down, just as they used it against us in the CC semi. Likewise, Hudds defended very well themselves. We were helped with one try in that a forward pass went undetected, but other than that Hudds never stopped their own pressure all night. It was down to who had the best defence and last night, it happened to be us. It would not have mattered who Hudds played, we were up for it last night and we had clearly worked hard on rediscovering the one thing we really can do well when we want to and that is defend.'"
You're not wrong. It's OK all the TV pundits saying Saints are past it but they have done everything they needed to. Lost a few games that they should really have been expected to win but still finished top two, home game for the play offs and lifted it a level last night. Job done so far and one game from Old Trafford. Well played Saints.
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| Robinson was left to do too much running himself last night, odd team selection from our coach too I think didnt help matters.
Hopefully a few more players in contention this Friday
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| agree robinson was terrible, once again a big games and he doesnt perform just like the cup final
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| Tell me any halfback that can perform with the amount of space and time he had last night?
Our forwards are the ones that failed not Robinson, same as they did in the CC final.
Robinson was trying everything but gettting smothered by saints, not that he was being given many options by his players, no runners, no one looking for work.
Dont blame Robinson for this one, he is one halfback who had no support.
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| Quote ="Code13"Tell me any halfback that can perform with the amount of space and time he had last night?
Our forwards are the ones that failed not Robinson, same as they did in the CC final.
Robinson was trying everything but gettting smothered by saints, not that he was being given many options by his players, no runners, no one looking for work.
Dont blame Robinson for this one, he is one halfback who had no support.'"
In intense games your time and space is cut. When it happens Robbo is found wanting.
His performance in the CCF was dreadful.
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| So was the performance of about 12 other players on that day too.
In fact, tell me of any players that came out of that game with much glory intact?
Yes his time and space is cut down, but when he has no runners, no support play what is he supposed to do?
Pass it to a Saints player for a clear run to the line?
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| Quote ="Code13"So was the performance of about 12 other players on that day too.
In fact, tell me of any players that came out of that game with much glory intact?
Yes his time and space is cut down, but when he has no runners, no support play what is he supposed to do?
Pass it to a Saints player for a clear run to the line?'"
Lunt was the one who stood out that day for me...he seemed to be trying IMO.
As for Robinson I tend to agree with some of the comments made. I feel that he holds on to the ball too long, he is very readable at times. You can tell when the pressure has got to him because he goes red like a beetroot and looks panicky. He has had good games for us but he can be frustrating to watch at times. Last night from the get go I knew he wasnt in the right frame of mind.
IMO we are struggling for a decent half back combination that regularly goes out there and runs the show.
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| Quote ="danna-blue2"Lunt was the one who stood out that day for me...he seemed to be trying IMO.
As for Robinson I tend to agree with some of the comments made. I feel that he holds on to the ball too long, he is very readable at times. You can tell when the pressure has got to him because he goes red like a beetroot and looks panicky. He has had good games for us but he can be frustrating to watch at times. Last night from the get go I knew he wasnt in the right frame of mind.
IMO we are struggling for a decent half back combination that regularly goes out there and runs the show.'"
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| Now that last line I will agree with.
To be honest, the moment I saw the team line up I though we were in trouble, too many players in odd positions imo, should have left the lineup as was, just given another young player a runout at hooker. imo
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| Quote ="Code13"So was the performance of about 12 other players on that day too.
In fact, tell me of any players that came out of that game with much glory intact?
Yes his time and space is cut down, but when he has no runners, no support play what is he supposed to do?
Pass it to a Saints player for a clear run to the line?'"
There were 16 other players on the day. It was robbo's 'glory plays' that cost us 2 tries. halves and hookers set the tone. Moore and Robbo stank. Lunt and Brown did not.
he has a severely limited kicking game and he can only pass in one direction. I have seen him fluff 3 clean breaks when he failed to deliver the 'money pass'.
He is not a top 2 half back and that is what we need.
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| Now I wont dissagree with that last sentiment, however how many of such a beast are there our in RL land? Not many.
Robbo and Brown were starting to gell and compliment each other a lot until Browns injury, now Robbo is trying too hard, same as he did in the CC final.
Moore hasnt had a good game since he got picked for England imo.
I think if Fulton had been left at 6 instead of pushed to hooker and Hodgo had been left at fullback instead of pushed to 6 we might have seen a different game all together.
But yeah, when we have played poorly, Robbo's passing has been obviously terrible, and his glory seeking has cost us tries. But by the same token, Hodgo's passing and kicking has often gone astray in those games too, along with our forwards going missing.
Simple thing is not to get on his back, but to help lift him, because like it or not, he isnt going anywhere soon, and if he was, who would he be replaced by?
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| I'm not getting on his back and wouldnt sit in the crowd and call him.
I am just stating my opinion.
I think we would fair much better with someone of Sean Long's ability. Dont like Sean Long, never have, but he has been an awesome play maker, has a great kicking game and can change a game around. I dont get that feeling from Robinson sadly. He was the same at Salford.
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| Quote ="Code13"
But yeah, when we have played poorly, Robbo's passing has been obviously terrible, and his glory seeking has cost us tries. But by the same token, Hodgo's passing and kicking has often gone astray in those games too, along with our forwards going missing.
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I am not just saying he has bad games. I am saying he does not have the capability to do the things we need from a half back at the highest level.
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| I know what you are saying, what i am suggesting is no matter how good he was, it wouldnt matter when none of the players around him are performing.
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| theres a good shop on X Church Street where you can get knives sharpened !!
Doesnt take long does it !!
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| Shush you
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| Quote ="Code13"I know what you are saying, what i am suggesting is no matter how good he was, it wouldnt matter when none of the players around him are performing.'"
And what I am suggesting is that whether the players around him are playing well or not he is not a top class half back.
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| Quote ="Crackerjack"theres a good shop on X Church Street where you can get knives sharpened !!
Doesnt take long does it !!
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Anything on the topic?
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