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| To put it bluntly, we are the Findus of Super League, last season we served up dog food - how do we get our punters back now we are selling fillet steak?
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"Lets not gloss over things and tell it like it is, Leeds have had a 20,000 gate, Wigan have had 2 and Hull FC got 19,000 v KR.
If we get 10,000 at any game this season we will be more than happy and just saying because everyone elses crowds are down we should just accept it is not the way to go. Leeds, Wigan and to a lesser extent Hull can deal with a thousand less on their average attendance and not bat an eyelid when it comes to next years budget and player signings.....can we honestly say the same????
It was a rubbish crowd set against every game this season bar possibly Wigan being a poor crowd and to blame away support is totally passing the buck and as we keep seeing on here does Huddersfield want a top SL team.....the answer is probably yes, are they willing to come out and support it??? The answer at present is a very firm NO!!!!'"
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| I don't think telling people when we play is enough. I have no idea when town play or who they are playing because I have no interest in football.
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| It's easy to tell when town are at home
The town centre is full of police and meatheads
But we need to at least communicate that the team exists and is doing pretty well, that's not happening - like I said, treat it like we are selling a commodity - last year our product was crap and the buyers have stayed away, now we need to tell them it's new and improved and they want to buy again
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| 7044 - follow the giants twitter page
2960 - follow the facebook page
these two are plastered with giants info about matches
get good enough coverage in the examiner too.
dont really agree about no one knowing when the giants play, this is because they arent interested in the first place and certainly wouldn't put their hands in their pockets to pay for a game.
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| You seem determined to suggest we should give up?
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| But how many of those 'followers' are already fans who either come to the games or know they are on but dont come ??
How many will be potential fans who aren't sure etc?
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| 1. I'm not on twitter
2. I don't read the examiner
3. Facebook feeds are only useful if you see them regularly (maybe the Facebook user at the club should create an event/invite for each game)
Either way 7k twitterati is basicay sod all in the world of publicity generation
The club isn't connected with the town. This needs to change
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| Points 1 and 2 i'm the same and point 3 i agree with - make it a weekly thing and get everyone who's 'liked' it to send invites to their mates too
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| next home game is against warrington if we beat batley and catalan we will be in a very strong position for the season going into that big match, we need to start selling that match now, i like wigans approach of the big 1,2,3,4 concept where they advertise massively maybe summat we should look to start doing granted i dont expect big crowds against teams like london with the prices that are being charged for them games but at least get some good attedances for the big games, still have leeds warrington saints and catalan to come and should really put them games in the spot light
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| Quote ="TRAV123"next home game is against warrington if we beat batley and catalan we will be in a very strong position for the season going into that big match, we need to start selling that match now, i like wigans approach of the big 1,2,3,4 concept where they advertise massively maybe summat we should look to start doing granted i dont expect big crowds against teams like london with the prices that are being charged for them games but at least get some good attedances for the big games, still have leeds warrington saints and catalan to come and should really put them games in the spot light'"
we would advertise the warrington game on sunday only for it to be changed to fri or sat for sky
send crabtree to stand outside the kingsgate a few days before a game on sunday and give him tickets at £21 to flog, see how many he sells.... not many!!!
can just picture it now, '£21 !! your having a laugh mr crabtree!'
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| going to catalan £18 bargin 21 or 24 is just to much not just stopping locals from coming to try supper league but also visiting fans both wigan and hull kr normal bring a large following very poor this year better 1500 at 18 or 20 then 250 at 21 or 24
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"Lets not gloss over things and tell it like it is, Leeds have had a 20,000 gate, Wigan have had 2 and Hull FC got 19,000 v KR.
If we get 10,000 at any game this season we will be more than happy and just saying because everyone elses crowds are down we should just accept it is not the way to go. Leeds, Wigan and to a lesser extent Hull can deal with a thousand less on their average attendance and not bat an eyelid when it comes to next years budget and player signings.....can we honestly say the same????
It was a rubbish crowd set against every game this season bar possibly Wigan being a poor crowd and to blame away support is totally passing the buck and as we keep seeing on here does Huddersfield want a top SL team.....the answer is probably yes, are they willing to come out and support it??? The answer at present is a very firm NO!!!!'"
Those games you have highlighted were over Easter and local derby`s, Leeds game this weekend just gone against London only 12000 plus, about 4000 down for them. And Bradford against Wigan would normally get 14000 but they got less than 10000 and Wigan would have taken a good few.
So the games you highlighted were exceptional.
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"Those games you have highlighted were over Easter and local derby`s, Leeds game this weekend just gone against London only 12000 plus, about 4000 down for them. And Bradford against Wigan would normally get 14000 but they got less than 10000 and Wigan would have taken a good few.
So the games you highlighted were exceptional.'"
But the point is we never get exceptional gates and Leeds will not mind 12,000 v London I am sure as most games will get far more than that....can we guarentee yesterdays gate will be our lowest for the rest of the season?????
My main point a 1,000 drop in average gate for the big teams is managable for us it is not so whatever the rest of the top 6 or 7 in RL are getting is pretty irrelevant as they are on a much more stable footing in terms of support where we rely on one man who quite rightly is sounding off about our lack of support and even the 10,000 Bradford got v Wigan is unlikely to be seen at our ground for a very long time and that is the real cause for concern.
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| I went to the Hull match and it cost me 24 quid, I 'm afraid that'll stop me being part of the walk-up crowd again.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"We certainly need to do something.....get someone in town ....someone recognisable like Eorl or Robbie HP with Big G to ask people :
.If they know about the Giants?
.Do they go to the games?
.Why they dont attend ?
.Would they be interested ?
.Give them a flyer informing them about our season/players/aims etc
.Show them a short promotional film/DVD of our best tries/biggest hits etc
.Offer them a buy one get one free or buy one game get next one free type deal
Find out why people aren't coming and try and sell the club and the product to them rather than just thinking that because we're 2nd in the league people will come....they aren't and without any hard pro-active marketing, they wont !'"
I agree. It's not much use asking a rhetorical question about whether or not the town want super league. What is a must is finding out what people do want. What they'd be willing to spend. What would make them likely to attend. Maybe a market research leaflet drop to households in Huddersfield. Whereby those who fill it in and return it get free entry to London or Catalan game.
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| Quote ="Nephilim"I agree. It's not much use asking a rhetorical question about whether or not the town want super league. What is a must is finding out what people do want. What they'd be willing to spend. What would make them likely to attend. Maybe a market research leaflet drop to households in Huddersfield. Whereby those who fill it in and return it get free entry to London or Catalan game.'"
Was this not the purpose of RHP's survey?
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"I went to the Hull match and it cost me 24 quid, I 'm afraid that'll stop me being part of the walk-up crowd again.'"
you could of got in for under £8 if you bought a £99 season ticket at the start of the season.
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| Quote ="HuddsRL5"Was this not the purpose of RHP's survey?'"
Exactly. Has RHP been demoted to match day announcer?
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| Quote ="brearley84"you could of got in for under £8 if you bought a £99 season ticket at the start of the season.'"
thats harsh!
some people don't go to every game,maybe only decide on the day or day before to go to a game,so they hardly gonna spend £99 just in case they want to go to a game in future? plus the £99 tickets are cheap because the view and facilities in that stand are poor and would probably put more people off than encourage them.
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| Quote ="HuddsRL5"Was this not the purpose of RHP's survey?'"
What survey? Who was it targetted at and what incentive was there to fill it in? I keep getting bombarded with emails from the club and most of the time I never even open the emails. I was thinking more of a leaflet drop to households in general rather than a survey of existing fans. If the leaflet offered something attractive as a prize for returning the survey then maybe Ken would get some answer as to what the people of Huddersfield do want.
What about using George, Cudjoe and McGillvary and marketing them as the Giants very own "Spice Boys" (I believe these three have connections to Grenada which is known as the spice island). Maybe an offer of an entry into a draw to win a free trip to the spice island. Condition of entry being that the survey is filled in and returned.
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| Quote ="Nephilim"What survey? Who was it targetted at and what incentive was there to fill it in? I keep getting bombarded with emails from the club and most of the time I never even open the emails. I was thinking more of a leaflet drop to households in general rather than a survey of existing fans. If the leaflet offered something attractive as a prize for returning the survey then maybe Ken would get some answer as to what the people of Huddersfield do want.
What about using George, Cudjoe and McGillvary and marketing them as the Giants very own "Spice Boys" (I believe these three have connections to Grenada which is known as the spice island). Maybe an offer of an entry into a draw to win a free trip to the spice island. Condition of entry being that the survey is filled in and returned.'"
There was quite a big deal made of it at the start of last year, it came through online via email.
While i agree with you that we need to target people who arent necessarily season ticket holders, i dont know if a letter drop is the right idea, I'd disguard one of these quicker than i would an email and it is more costly to run these to a large audience.
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| maybe get some flyers/offers into pubs, workplaces etc? think i've seen it mentioned before but how about a works deal where say, 5 people take up the offer,£15 each, 10 people £10 each, 20 people £5 each? get some contact details and maybe then ask them to fill a survey in after the game and gauge reaction, if it's mainly positive,offer them a ticket for the next home game for a reduced price or even free travel to an away game?
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| Great cover poster on the giants website at the moment advertising the warrington match
this needs a big marekting push and to be plastered everywhere, facebook/twitter/examiner/flyers
should at least get over 8k for this game...
watch it get changed to saturday for sky though
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| Quote ="meast"thats harsh!
some people don't go to every game,maybe only decide on the day or day before to go to a game,so they hardly gonna spend £99 just in case they want to go to a game in future? plus the £99 tickets are cheap because the view and facilities in that stand are poor and would probably put more people off than encourage them.'"
The view is fantastic in my opinion, or at least a view i prefer, not there because of price alone. In my opinion we dont have as many do or die hardcore supporters as some other teams do besides anything else which could be done, hopefully as the team get more results and a good run in the cup will help.
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