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| and where would we play whilst this dream stadium that you think can be built for peanuts is being built.
Shares were worth £2 each when Davy sold them back. Not sure we have 5 million of them to provide the 10 million we’d need to build it- even if we could find a suitable site. Those who think fartown - it will never happen as the site is simply no longer fit to have a stadium on in this day and age of the motor vehicle.
And that’s without taking into account we have a massively long lease, and we would need to get over all the legal caveats built in to prevent such a thing happening.
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| Peanuts?
£25million would build a perfectly decent RL stadium. That’s what Langtree Park cost.
Town have spent £45million so far this season on bringing players in.
Town are currently in 15th spot in the table. If that’s where they finish, their share of the prize money will be £108million
Believe me, if Town really want rid of the Giants the money is there. If they can string together a few years in the top flight, they could fart out a new rugby stadium every year and not notice.
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| Quote ="jools"
Shares were worth £2 each when Davy sold them back. Not sure we have 5 million of them to provide the 10 million we’d need to build it- even if we could find a suitable site. Those who think fartown - it will never happen as the site is simply no longer fit to have a stadium on in this day and age of the motor vehicle.
And that’s without taking into account we have a massively long lease, and we would need to get over all the legal caveats built in to prevent such a thing happening.'"
The shares in the stadium aren’t publicly traded, so they really are worth whatever the parties buying and selling them want them to be worth. That could be 20p or £20,000, it’s entirely up to them.
All leases and “legal caveats” are entirely surmountable if the parties involved want them to be.
The only really difficult, maybe impossible, problem you’ve mentioned with Fartown as a stadium site is the access. All the other problems are just a matter of getting all the stakeholders to decide to do it or not.
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| Quote ="Steve May"The shares in the stadium aren’t publicly traded, so they really are worth whatever the parties buying and selling them want them to be worth. That could be 20p or £20,000, it’s entirely up to them.
All leases and “legal caveats” are entirely surmountable if the parties involved want them to be.
The only really difficult, maybe impossible, problem you’ve mentioned with Fartown as a stadium site is the access. All the other problems are just a matter of getting all the stakeholders to decide to do it or not.'" All very well but can the Giants afford to run a new stadium?Not on crowds of 4k and more than likely in the Championship.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"All very well but can the Giants afford to run a new stadium?Not on crowds of 4k and more than likely in the Championship.'"
I agree with everything Steve May has said, If the parties wanted it done it could could be done. I also take your point which just re-enforces the argument that we are not really a Super league club, other than as making up the numbers till something better comes along, and we are not the only one, Far from it.
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"brian carney says he has heard a whisper the club are looking at an aussie whos not a head coach in the nrl... says fans will be underwhelmed..
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Simon Woolford is the name doing the rounds.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Simon Woolford is the name doing the rounds.'"
If this is true, then to me it implies that the board also think that Thorman is part of the problem. It's realistic to think that if Woolford is appointed, then Thorman won't be sticking around.
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| Quote ="bilko1941"All very well but can the Giants afford to run a new stadium?Not on crowds of 4k and more than likely in the Championship.'"
exactly.
perfectly fine where we are thanks, move on
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| yes woolford has popped up today as the front runner
never heard of him but then again never heard of tony smith or justin holbrook either!
former hooker for canberra.
working with nathan brown....... interesting!!! boomer has come here too so no doubt he has put a good word in for him or hes come over to check us our for woolford
we shall see
will he have to work with what we have or get his own back room staff.... think it will be the former as stone didnt get the luxury
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"exactly.
perfectly fine where we are thanks, move on'"
I think there are clearly more pressing problems facing the club so I’ll not comment further after this but I think the following:
The club has a massive identity problem, made worse by being seen as cuckooing in Town’s nest
The chances of the club ever pushing a 25,000 capacity are remote. They just don’t, and realistically never will, need those seats. Let’s not forget that under the licensing you got a point for an average of 10,000 and a point for averaging 40% of capacity. 40% of 25,000 is...
The atmosphere in the ground is terrible and will remain so unless we start to pull 12,000+. Which makes the Giants a bit of a sad proposition. Who wants to be part of a sp crowd rattling round a massive, empty ground.
On top of that there are many known problems with the way the stadium facilities are run (and for once we can’t blame Thewlis)
I really believe that the stadium is not an optimal home for the club. But it’s not going to change anytime soon so it’s really not worth commenting on further.
There are many, many things the club could do in the short/medium term beyond thinking about the stadium.
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| which super league club can get 25k crowds?
not many can even get 10k
dont worry about it , its not just hudds its a rugby league problem
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Be interesting seeing Woolford doing interviews after games.
He was banned from attending games when he coached in the Canberra comp for punching out a window in the coaches box.
www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/a ... je57k.html
He seems to be a good coach at improving individual skills. He has improved a lot of players in the Knights reserve grade.
Not nearly as good as Rick Stone though.
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Be interesting seeing Woolford doing interviews after games.
He was banned from attending games when he coached in the Canberra comp for punching out a window in the coaches box.
www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/a ... je57k.html
He seems to be a good coach at improving individual skills. He has improved a lot of players in the Knights reserve grade.
Not nearly as good as Rick Stone though.
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| 9 month ban seems harsh for that.. but it was end of the season so wont have affected much
has some fire in his belly by the sounds of it, maybe the giants need someone like that to ruffle a few feathers!
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| woolford has had an interview with the club, just waiting for a visa then they will announce it...
nathan brown gave him a great reference
dave kidwell also applied for the job former nz coach
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| Good luck to the bloke I will give him a chance and hope he does well it’s a total pin in the map choice from the club and does nothing to address the real issues
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| He’s currently in charge of the Newcastle feeder club, who were in the playoffs last year the first he took over -and are currently at the bottom of the table ......Yep sounds like the man with the credentials for the job
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| knew it would go down well with you jools.
bagging a coach (if announced) before he's even stepped foot in the country.
we as fans need to back him and give him a chance at the very least.
obviously thewlis saw something he liked in the interview or from what he heard from his mate nathan brown.
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| Cannot be worse than Thorman
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| And for when Jools says how do you know and defends him.
1 I was there when thewlis told brown not to quit as it would cost him money
2 baloo was very happy to tell everyone he got 70k to leave
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| Quote ="djhudds"And for when Jools says how do you know and defends him.
1 I was there when thewlis told brown not to quit as it would cost him money
2 baloo was very happy to tell everyone he got 70k to leave'"
Well you cannot dispute that.
Two seasons ago I said I would not go back to watching the giants until there was fundamental change at the club.
By that I did not mean tinkering with the players or the coach. Since then virtually everything that has happened at the club has smacked of either incompetence or something worse
The players signed, the length of contracts or what they have been paid.
Decisions in the back room .
For me although I have never said it the problem is Thewlis .
As long as he is there then I have no faith anything will change at the club.
No matter who we get it will fall apart with the incompetence at the top.
As long as Thewlis is there I will save my money.
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| I agree completely ( along with another 8 people) we also sponsor a player. I have followed HRLFC for 40 years and won’t be renewing if Thewlis is in charge. I walked out of the last game v Salford not even caring anymore which is sad. The whole set up is a shambles as I’ve said on here for a long time.
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| Quote ="jools"He’s currently in charge of the Newcastle feeder club, who were in the playoffs last year the first he took over -and are currently at the bottom of the table ......Yep sounds like the man with the credentials for the job
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I'm not sure I like Woolford, but to be fair, he took over a very young side last year who were at the bottom of the table about this far into the comp as well, and he improved them enough to make the finals.
This year the Knights shed 26 of their top 40, including all but 2 or 3 of last year's reserve grade team.
The side Woolford named for today has 8 guys who were playing under 20s last year, 4 who were playing country comps, 3 who were in and out of firstgrade, and 2 who were firstgrade regulars.
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| Quote ="roopy"I'm not sure I like Woolford, but to be fair, he took over a very young side last year who were at the bottom of the table about this far into the comp as well, and he improved them enough to make the finals.
This year the Knights shed 26 of their top 40, including all but 2 or 3 of last year's reserve grade team.
The side Woolford named for today has 8 guys who were playing under 20s last year, 4 who were playing country comps, 3 who were in and out of firstgrade, and 2 who were firstgrade regulars.'"
That would be enough to keep die hard Giants fans going in excuses for years to come.
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| might have changed his mind after lastnight
hope the injured players can save the day...get them ready for the middle 8s
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