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| Quote ="onlyanorthernsoul"You could argue we lost quite a few games because we just switched off at crucial times towards the end. How many games did we lose by a converted score? 8 in the normal season in fact. I didn't see a great deal to the fitness issue many have mentioned. The guy that was scapegoated early on is still at the club so can't have been that bad, I appreciate another guy has come in with some great experience in rugby but we weren't getting hammered every game were we. The awful conditioning tag I just don't buy, wheres the evidence?'"
mcgillvary confirms fitness a problem last season
[urlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_24298-mcgillvary-we-re-getting-fitter.html[/url
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| The evidence is it was also bloody obvious they lacked condition, especially early on!
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| Quote ="brearley84"mcgillvary confirms fitness a problem last season
[urlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_24298-mcgillvary-we-re-getting-fitter.html[/url'"
How convenient.
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| Quote ="vastman"How convenient.'"
Almost as good as Leeds with their flooded training facilities malarkey.
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| After we were told by all and sundry they were strong and fitter than ever before...
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| Remember they ran out of gas in a lot of games 'cos they spent most of the game giving possession away through silly errors / ill-discipline and then had to defend those errors. That must have taken it's toll over the season no matter how fit they were.
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| I remember them running on in game one and my Mrs asking why they all looked tubby...
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| Quote ="Code13"I remember them running on in game one and my Mrs asking why they all looked tubby...'"
That reminds me of my favourite moment (now I can look back on it) from last season when Jamie Ellis bombed that chance from Jerry's inside pass at Leigh.
I'm convinced his belly got in the way of the ball before his hands could get to it.
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| Quote ="vastman"How convenient.'"
most fans suspected it very early on in the season
infact i rememeber hamstrings going on players even before the season started!!
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| Talking about tuby,s, did you see the bellies on those Ossies in the 4 nations. It isn,t the weight you carry, its how you carry the weight, l never had a problem with Ellis, or his weight . l thought he did his job, and thats all l ask, Thurston was packing plenty of extra, but he did his job.
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| Quote ="boomer"Talking about tuby,s, did you see the bellies on those Ossies in the 4 nations. It isn,t the weight you carry, its how you carry the weight, l never had a problem with Ellis, or his weight . l thought he did his job, and thats all l ask, Thurston was packing plenty of extra, but he did his job.'"
me too i dont see a problem with ellis's weight, hes always been the same just his build
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| Jamie Ellis last season
When he first joined Huddersfield
When he was at St Helens
I am betting he will have cut some weight this season when he turns out for Hull KR. He was carrying too much fat.
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| He was too heavy and two slow to ever be a top Half, He had enough clubs to prove himself. Doesn't mean he can never be a top player though, I would have thought he has all he needs to make it as a Hooker.
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| Quote ="brearley84"icon_lol.gif
first pic full shot
second one half a body
third pic a youngster at saints
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Mate, it illustrates well that he has put fat on.
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| Robbo confirmed at the HGSA on Tuesday that last season fitness was a problem, Baloo and the conditioning team got it all wrong in this department but under Steve Walsh and Kane Daniels they can already see differences from last year.
He also said the door isn't closed for Jamie Ellis, he's basically out on loan to get fit and see if he can get some form.
Gave a very good insight into how the fitness an S&C works.
Hopefully we will see fitter and/or stronger players next year depending on their individual circumstances and what Rick wants from them.
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| Yet club individuals last season were saying fitness wasn't a problem.......
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| They're hardly gonna admit it at the time are they ?
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| Why would a SL club send a player to the championship to get fit.?
if a player is deemed to be fat, overweight, who,s fault is that.?
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| Superb and very frank assessment from Luke a great lad the honesty about our position was refreshing and a slight glimmer of hope that Rick Stone now in sole charge of trying to rebuild the squad. Let's hope he does well he certainly has our support
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| Quote ="boomer"Why would a SL club send a player to the championship to get fit.?
if a player is deemed to be fat, overweight, who,s fault is that.?'" Could be the clubs way of a kick up the A**E
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| Ellis was told he was leaving before stone came in, guess stone has decided to spare him for now
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| Quote ="jools"Yet club individuals last season were saying fitness wasn't a problem.......'"
It was so obvious looking at them that they were unfit. I've been banging on about that since March, now Robbo confirmed it.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"They're hardly gonna admit it at the time are they ?'"
Well quite-
But now you are admiring their "honesty" - just like you were believing what was said previously. What things we are being told now will turn out to be untrue later I wonder.
When I and others mentioned their lack of fitness, and questioned whether some of our soft tissue injuries were linked some of these things said by those at the club were used to poo poo the idea. Yet now suddenly they are admitting that fitness was an issue.
They can spin like a seasoned politician it seems.
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| Quote ="jools"Well quite-
But now you are admiring their "honesty" - just like you were believing what was said previously. What things we are being told now will turn out to be untrue later I wonder.
When I and others mentioned their lack of fitness, and questioned whether some of our soft tissue injuries were linked some of these things said by those at the club were used to poo poo the idea. Yet now suddenly they are admitting that fitness was an issue.
They can spin like a seasoned politician it seems.'"
Where have i said i was admiring their honesty ?
i was just saying what had been said and how someone from the club has now come out and admitted it was an issue, at the beginning of the season when people were blaming the conditioning i will admit i was reluctant to join in and was one that was prepared to give things time to turn round but as they wont on and didn't i questioned it myself and realised that was as issue.
And at the end of they day until we are told differently then we have to believe what comes out of the club as that's the only official lines we get
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