dont see why i should be ashamed of myself i gave it my all my voice is still croaking as i said earlier were i was sat lots of people were doing their best to make some racket, in the bottom tier.

what a load of tosh!

No offense, it's just a rant aimed at fickle fans who feel a team only deserves support when it's winning. There's a lot that's good goimg on at Huddersfield, and the team and everyone else involved deserves the fans support through thick and thin.

That's the spirit - BE PROUD OF YOUR CLUB!!!

You'd be the expert on supporting your team to finals, I guess, so you'd know.



I don't condemn anybody who can't face staying when their team has lost in a final but hey, if you want to alienate your fragile fanbase then go ahead. More fool you. Whatever.

how do you work that out when my point was about fans not getting behind the team when we were losing ??

Huddersfield fans dont come much more passionate than me so i know exactly what our support is like.

i think yesterday just made me realise how bad our fans really are when it comes to supporting the team

It wasn't aimed at you! Check the first post I made and you'll see it was in response to this:

"I'm not wanting to make waves, but the way we started, and then continued to play it was pretty tough to get enthused to shout about anything. After the first 20 mins it was pretty easy to see which way the game was going, we didnt look to offer much in the way of attack. Shame we had to play like that in the final. Our final must have been against saints. We played a hell of a lot better there.

Another case of "rabbits in the headlights" im afraid. Shame, some of our lads experienced twickenham, Wire didnt, why are we effected by Big occasions so much? Why could they hold there nerve?"

Every club has it's passionate fans, but some clubs have more than their fair share of 'grumpy gits' who only bother when they're winning.

Apologies then, but you quoted my post thats why i thought you were meaning me !

I would not have been happy if your pint glass had been dripping on me either. That is not atmosphere (probably that you had too much and could not hold it straight).

thats because theres more atmosphere, less nippers who tread on my toes every five minutes and im sick of singing on my own, shouting for the lads only to be stared at, im trying to gee them up and they look at me like im mud! pathetic, they need to know we are supporting them so im as loud as i an be! looking forward to having no voice more often lol

Seen as you are a Bulls supporter, you have nowt to shout about.
1996 St.Helens v Bradford 75994
1997 St.Helens v Bradford 78022
2003 Bradford v Leeds 71212

2009 Huddersfield v Warrington 76560

And this in a year of deep depression when many could not afford to go due to financial positions.
I personally thought it was a very good turnout considering the state of the country at the moment, so just think about things before putting your mouth in gear.

Heads up you lot....you have a team to be very proud of!

We (yes Warrington supporter for a very long time) may not reach the play-offs...unless a miracle happens



If we don't reach the play-offs then yeah count on my support!

Believe in your team!

Good luck....it will happen!

To be fair mate on the above point,

1996 - 75,994 Capacity 78,022
1997 - 78,022 Capacity 78,022 - sold out two weeks before the game.
2003 - 71,212 Capacity 73,000.

That said nearly 77,000 yesterday wasn't a bad effort.

Hey I have been going to the Cup Final for 30 years and there was not 30K from Warrington.
The neutrals like me (hate us all you like but we go and support the game of RL no matter who is at the Final) always make up about 60% of the gate, there were noticeably less in numbers this year I admit but by my reckoning thats 45K and Huddersfield had about 15% so 12K so there were 19K from Warrington.
Not an expert on crwods I admit but in the old Wembley days thats when teams took 30k when the crwods were 90K plus, not any more sadly.

I have to say for such a big town there should really have been more from Huddersfield or is it just a football town now? Poor turnout.

Sorry to hear that, we were in the Huddersfield end and had no problem with you lot cheering on your team it was your Final, most of us wanted you to win!

Let`s put this in perspective. Do you honestly think Wire would have been as loud as we were if we had got beat? And don`t you think some of our fickle fans would have left before the team had got their medals? Of co they would. Stop beating yourselves up and consentrate on the play offs. If you get to OT then the Wire neutrals will be shouting for yous (unless it`s against us

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always has been really.

The OP is as disappointed as anyone who has followed the Giants for a long time but answer this question before you continue bagging the fans.

Do we have more fans now than we did 2, 5, 10 or 20 years ago



Do we have more fans going to away games than we did 2,5,10 20 years ago



Do we have more fans singing than 2, 5, 10 or 20 years ago



Is there any shame in us taking 15,000 plus to a cup final



Are we a team that is moving forward




The answer to all the above is yes. We would all like it to be better and over time it will be.

There were more people singing yresterday than i can remember at ANY Giants game i have ever been to. Dont compare the issue of the atmosphere yesterday with some mythical brilliant support we took to Blackpool or Widnes.

Bagging the fans is about as useful as bagging the team.

It is bad enough with other teams slagging us off without our fans turning into a team of self loathers

Absolutely DG

Bagging some sections of the support because "they arent vocal enough" is just crap really.

Sometimes I sing and shout, sometimes I dont, but I sure as well wont be told I am not vocal enough.

It sounds like I am being told I am not as "good" a supporter as someone else and that I wont take from anyone.

I just got the 30k from someone else saying id say there were 25k warrington fans which is still good, regarding huddersfield people need to get off there fans backs, they have had poor fan base for along time n now thanks to offers, better form, there attracting more fans, the more fans in the game the better. hope huddersfield continue to improve

Well said that man - there are a lot of so called Giants supporters who really should bow there head in shame :-/

Whether they sang or not they still paid money to go, they probably bought merchandise from the club and even coach fares all of which will help the club continue to grow by putting money in the kitty. Surely the more fans we have the more money in the clubs pocket the better the players the better the team the more chances we will get at going to semi finals and finals and make even more money. We have, as many of us know, have had a bad run for many years and some fans got so used to not being vocal for fear of being laughed at by opposition that it is still hard for some to come to terms that we are now a good team and capable of beating anyone on our day. Money in the kitty is how Bradford, Saints, Wigan and Leeds all became great clubs by having the ability to buy the better players and therefore gaining success. Success means more fans and so the cycle goes on.

Now can we all stop moaning and bickering and concentrate on what we have left this season - the play offs. The cup has gone, it belongs to Warrington until next year. There is however still a cup on offer. Next up Celtic....then Wigan then the play offs.....COME ON YOU GIANTS!

Was sat in the warrington end and couldnt hear any singing from ur side at all, a lot of the wire fans tho were really drunk and that added to them shouting louder.
We saw loads of huddersfield fans travelling down in cars with just a small sticker in back window to say we are on way to wembley and when we got there there was alot of fans with just challenge cup final tshirts on.
Obviously those were the ones who dont go to matvhes/own shirts etc..they probably dont even know names of any players so may not have shouted for them thru fear of embarrasment at getting it wrong.

Alot of giants fans are lot older than wire fans as well so again will probably just sit there quietly .
Coming back down wembley way after match they were still trying to sell the giants scarfes and they had sold out of wolves scarfes before match.

We still saw loads of wire fans with tops on on sunday in town centre but we didnt see a single giants top, dont know if many stayed over or if you all went back same day, but there was certainlya lot of you at leicester forest services on way down at about 9 oclock.

Having read the first few pages and couldn't be bothered with the last 3, here's may take - and I apologise if I repeat anything that's already been said.

Point 1. In terms of atmosphere, I prefer going to away matches. We singers/chanters are all together and - when we are winning, playing well, or in with a shout - the noise is excellent. However, when we are losing badly, it is only the small, hardcore singers who continue to be vocal.

At the Galpharm there are probably as many singers in the Riverside as there are opposite us. However, we are spread out whereas in the Britannia there are all together.

Point 2. It's the old 'lost generations' point. 'New' people coming to watch will either be new, or supporters from years gone by. For the latter category, singing at rugby matches is a new experience. It didn't use to happen.

Point 3. Put 1 & 2 together and it's hardly surprising that we were lacking the noise that Wire were making. I started the game in a singing mood, but the team's performance soon put paid to that. Yes, we do need noise to lift the team, but as has already been stated, the team has to play its part too.

As the first half wore on it became increasingly obvious that it wasn't going to be our day and even I just sat there totally flat and almost devoid of any emotion.

Wire were on top, their fans made the noise. How many would have been singing had we been on top? [A rhetorical question, by the way. I don't want to start a slanging match with Warrington because I know they would have made .[isome[/i noise.

Interesting - and slightly odd - analysis!! I didn't realise that the stickers you had in your car or the clothes you wear to a match say anything about how long you have been supporting a club