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| Quote ="Chetnik"Ken is a legend, but that doesn't mean he can't make mistakes...
Also, regarding the silence. It could well be a tactical silence, I would prefer matter to be dealt with privately within the organisation. As long matters are being dealt with. Because it's obvious things need changing.
All the years of poor management have come and bit us on our booty. A quote from a player not me, and that was a quarter of the way into the season. So the players know that there ia problems at the club.
A lot of people are blaming the players, but you can't expect them to perform at their peak if the management is not at the same level as their required Performance. Just like with any job. A lot of the blame has to be put on the management of the club, which Ken Davy is responsible for..'"
I agree that there's not much to be gained by putting things out in public. Not quite sure I agree with poor management affecting what happens on the field though. I've worked for some really sh.. managers in my time, but it hasn't stopped me doing my job to the best of my ability. It's been said time and again- the coach the managers and the directors don't miss tackles, drop balls or kick out on the full.
Rudyard Kipling has it spot on with IF. Right now the players aren't being men.
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| silence just leads to rumours and the fans guessing about whats going on
hull kr and salford have come out and said things so the fans are informed but its just a closed shop at the giants and dont engage with the fans
thewlis has to go, the management has been shocking and they have been caught out now, going into this season with such a small squad was criminal
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| Quote ="jools"I agree that there's not much to be gained by putting things out in public. Not quite sure I agree with poor management affecting what happens on the field though. I've worked for some really sh.. managers in my time, but it hasn't stopped me doing my job to the best of my ability. It's been said time and again- the coach the managers and the directors don't miss tackles, drop balls or kick out on the full.
Rudyard Kipling has it spot on with IF. Right now the players aren't being men.'"
So you're saying poor management can't knock the confidence of the players, which will then have a negative effect on the field?
You may react differently to shi* managers than other people, everyone is different.
Also, let's not forget there are other factors such as Robinson, Ferres, Injuries, Anderson. Everything sort of went wrong at once.
I would also hugely question the recruitment or lack of it over the last few years too...
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| Quote ="Chetnik"So you're saying poor management can't knock the confidence of the players, which will then have a negative effect on the field?
You may react differently to shi* managers than other people, everyone is different.
Also, let's not forget there are other factors such as Robinson, Ferres, Injuries, Anderson. Everything sort of went wrong at once.
I would also hugely question the recruitment or lack of it over the last few years too...'"
I agree we've had a lot go wrong- and recruitment has been poor. But none of that turns good players into bad ones overnight. We have a lack of leaders at the club- and that has manifested itself in a poor reaction by the players to those things that have gone wrong. The management are at fault for SOME of WHAT has gone wrong yes but the players are at fault for the poor way THEY have handled them. Some of them need to grow some whatits and show determination to fight. (Metaphorically speaking) for the club.
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| Quote ="jools"I agree we've had a lot go wrong- and recruitment has been poor. But none of that turns good players into bad ones overnight. We have a lack of leaders at the club- and that has manifested itself in a poor reaction by the players to those things that have gone wrong. The management are at fault for SOME of WHAT has gone wrong yes but the players are at fault for the poor way THEY have handled them. Some of them need to grow some whatits and show determination to fight. (Metaphorically speaking) for the club.'"
Valid points that I can't disagree with. No matter what has happened off the field, once they step onto that field the responsibility IS in their hands.
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| Quote ="manwinoname"Nothing from Ken but Cudjoe has surfaced to apologise for the no show by Giants defence last Sunday , usual waffle that were all tired of hearing , If Connors is picked for this Sundays game then our family are not going , if we dont it will be the first game in years that we have missed but were not prepared to waste our time watching rubbish like that , yes our family are Grixie fans and while hes far from perfect he is a far better full back than Connors'"
So you wont go and support the TEAM in an important game that could decide our future because you don't agree with ONE player being picked?
You're entitled to your opinion and whatever your beef is with Connor, only one of him, surely the idea is you support the TEAM?
Seems a bit strange to complain about the performances and excuses etc then withdraw your support because of ONE player, but each to their own.
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| Quote ="brearley84"silence just leads to rumours and the fans guessing about whats going on
hull kr and salford have come out and said things so the fans are informed but its just a closed shop at the giants and dont engage with the fans
thewlis has to go, the management has been shocking and they have been caught out now, going into this season with such a small squad was criminal'"
I kind of know where you're coming from, bit again, what would you expect ken to say exactly? Don't forget the owners of Salford and Hull KR are loudmouth egotistical maniacs compared to Ken.
All he could say would be, we've been poor, we sacked the coach that people wanted sacking as he was the reason we were in the poo to begin with , according to the fans who are in the know, but we haven't improved, and i can't bring a guy from the other side of the world then sack him, so the blame is with the CEO?
Yes RT has made errors, yes he might not be everyone's cup of tea but what happens on the field is the players responsibility nobody else, whatever happens at board level or at management level with the coaching staff, ultimately the players have let themselves, the fans, the coaches , the directors and Ken down, no one else but the players.
Yes, we're all frustrated but hearing or reading a speech from Ken isn't going to change anything, there are 17 people in the club who can determine it's immediate future and guess who they are?
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| suppose could always buy the match programme to get something out of ken davy
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| Can't believe people on here criticise Ken Davy. You should all get on your knees to him every match.
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| Sir Ken knows what the Huddersfield fans think about him,we made that very clear when he arrived at Leigh.
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| Quote ="meast"I kind of know where you're coming from, bit again, what would you expect ken to say exactly? Don't forget the owners of Salford and Hull KR are loudmouth egotistical maniacs compared to Ken.
All he could say would be, we've been poor, we sacked the coach that people wanted sacking as he was the reason we were in the poo to begin with , according to the fans who are in the know, but we haven't improved, and i can't bring a guy from the other side of the world then sack him, so the blame is with the CEO?
Yes RT has made errors, yes he might not be everyone's cup of tea but what happens on the field is the players responsibility nobody else, whatever happens at board level or at management level with the coaching staff, ultimately the players have let themselves, the fans, the coaches , the directors and Ken down, no one else but the players.
Yes, we're all frustrated but hearing or reading a speech from Ken isn't going to change anything, there are 17 people in the club who can determine it's immediate future and guess who they are?'"
I don't think our chairman would have said anything to the fans if he hadn't been forced into it by koukash coming out and saying Sheens was going to be our coach next year
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"Can't believe people on here criticise Ken Davy. You should all get on your knees to him every match.'"
we know what ken davy has done for us and we praise him.
more frustration with his mate thewlis and the silence from the club which leads to rumours
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| Ken is Fartown. When he eventually gives it up we should remember him with a statue or something. I for one will not blame him for the current mess. After all he will still be bankrolling us now. There are people behind the scenes who have under performed in the last couple of seasons, not just Anderson and I am sure KD knows who has done what, but he has made a living by not making rash decisions, and he has taken us from nothing to league leaders, and cup finalists by following the same rules.
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| Wonder if Ken will say owt this week
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| Quote ="meast"Wonder if Ken will say owt this week
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No - hes not like me and you Martin !
Hed say "anything"!
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| anyone buy the matchday programme to find out?
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| ken davy speaks!
not on the giants
but on the rugby league museum moving to bradford in 2020. hes disappointed
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| they still had 18k for a monday night game, we can only dream of that
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| What we should be doing is watching and learning and trying to adapt and use good things to promote our club ( cue hysteria on here as any negativity means you are not a true fan)
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| Quote ="brearley84"they still had 18k for a monday night game, we can only dream of that'"
You can not compare to soccer in any way though brearley. On any weekend of League with a full program of Games for the 3 divisions, just one of the top soccer clubs will pull in more fans on their own, It's a sad fact and one i will never understand because i fail to see what people like about the game but it is fantastically popular.
On top of that we have to remember that Rugby league is just the opposite, It is very poorly supported by and large, I can remember times when it was far more popular," unless it just seemed that way ". If Sky had not come along and changed the game to Summer, it would be gone now other than as a poor semi-pro sort of game.
Sky own the game now , fans through the turnstiles although very desirable are a bonus, and are basically the main reason the same clubs win everything year on year, Simply because they have more to spend, " there are other factors as well but i think that's the main one.
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| Quote ="hxgiant"What we should be doing is watching and learning and trying to adapt and use good things to promote our club ( cue hysteria on here as any negativity means you are not a true fan)'"
i think they have tried this time to be fair, discounted tickets and spreading the word well with plenty of exposure
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"You can not compare to soccer in any way though brearley. On any weekend of League with a full program of Games for the 3 divisions, just one of the top soccer clubs will pull in more fans on their own, It's a sad fact and one i will never understand because i fail to see what people like about the game but it is fantastically popular.
On top of that we have to remember that Rugby league is just the opposite, It is very poorly supported by and large, I can remember times when it was far more popular," unless it just seemed that way ". If Sky had not come along and changed the game to Summer, it would be gone now other than as a poor semi-pro sort of game.
Sky own the game now , fans through the turnstiles although very desirable are a bonus, and are basically the main reason the same clubs win everything year on year, Simply because they have more to spend, " there are other factors as well but i think that's the main one.'"
oh i know, football is king and always will be here
just pointing out that the football club are still doing very well regarding crowds and maybe not results at the moment
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| I agree they have made a bit more effort to be fair
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| Quote ="hxgiant"I agree they have made a bit more effort to be fair'"
Also we have to remember. Town were practically giving away season tickets for this season. If I remember, but can`t be absolutely sure, I think they worked out at around £8 a game which is cheaper than our fantastically low priced season tickets.
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