Can not argue with that and we as supporters deserve everything we get when a vast majority of our fans give Ferres a standing ovation for basically handing the Saints a chance to get back in a game that was slipping away from us.

Game after game we give away far more penalties than our opponents and that is what is really holding us back.

If that was a fair penalty then he failed to give about fifty more during the match. I wonder why he chose to ignore the others and give that specific one?



You also have to wonder why he referred every try of yours to the VR and why Smith disallowed your first on the grounds of a knock on when the ball came backwards off a Saints player. I dare say he'd have disallowed the drop goal if he'd have got the referral. Something very iffy about the whole setup today.

Why was a Huddersfield player penalised for being hit? Why wasn't the voluntary tackle penalised? The list could go on.

It doesn't matter how many times he missed, if one went over he deserved it! No idea why Saints fans keep bringing up the fact that he had 3 charged down, like that somehow justifies Bentham disallowing the fourth.

All season decisions by video referee have proved inconclusive with us suffering against Leeds and today but especially on Sky there have been decisions where even with 4 or 5 camera angles nothing can be proved and referees are bottling it by going to the screen and if we are going to keep it at least go with the Australian or RU version where the referee gives a decision and if it can not be proven otherwise his call gets given.

That wouldn't have benefitted you today as Bentham had already called a knock on before going upstairs. I just couldn't believe it when Smith started saying "Yeah he's definitely lost it" - surely the direction and mechanism by which it is lost are what's important!

Yep, it was a goal and if he would have been playing for saints wire leeds or wigan - you betcha it was a goal. Refs are predisposed to favour the big teams - happens all the time. If a saints player did the Ferris tackle - it would have been on report - the refs cop out - we had two totally outrageous dangerous "assaults" that happened 5 feet in front of the ref leaving players injured against - both put on report - both players guilty - yet the ref was the only person in the ground that didn't see it.
Such a shame the game is in the pocket of the big clubs.

first of all...yes we lost! Yes Ferres should av been sent off, even tho there was no malice and no intent to injure lomax but he still deserved to be sent off, it was just one of them tackles, and im sure brett is as gutted as us fans are, he is not a malicious player.

Without creating a arguement about the reffing decisions for 78 mins, Broughs DG should have been given, it was clear as day, clear on the replays, we was robbed of a chance of progressing in to the next round and will lose money for this, what will Phil Bentham get? a slap on the wrist and dont do it again! if i made a mistake like that in my job id be sacked!! But we played well so dont let the result detract from the performance (i know that dont get us in the next round) onwards and upwards

Dont think the protest that was mentioned on twitter for the Hull game will be worth it unless we get the hull fans involved, lets have the whole stadium doing something to sort out refereeing in general not just out error from the idiot bentham as im sure every club has had a bad decicision go against them.

Firstly for obvious reasons my preferred result today would have been a Huddersfield win.

At first I thought the drop goal was clearly over. The more I watch it I honestly (and it pains me to say it) don't think it did. It was inconclusive at best.

The reason you lost today was poor discipline and a poor effort at a tackle from Ferres.

Not forgetting we did not go for 2 early in the 2nd half then coughed the ball up on the 3rd or 4th tackle. The kicking tee was bought on so I am guessing Baloo wanted to go for 2 and Brough made the decision not to.

I've re-watched it numerous times and changed my opinion, I don't think it went over. It's drifting out all the way after starting in line. By the time it gets to the posts, which is later than seems from the camera behind, I think it's drifted slightly too far, still an unbelievably tough decision though with countless replays.

If there was a league for moaning, Huddersfield and their fans would win the league leaders shield, grand final, challenge cup and the world club challenge. Moan, moan, moan.
The drop goal was wide anyway

As a Wigan fan I thought the drop goal was over but in all honestly it should never have gone to this you had a kickable penalty just after second half started and you elected to run the ball those 2 points if kicked would have won you the match.

People saying it 'clearly went over'. I have yet to see this clear evidence. I still can't decide whether I think it went over or not.

Two different angles contradict each other, so going to the VR would be pointless. Bentham was in a good position and it should be refs call.

waste of breath been saying for years RL bent and stick by it. Seen simular tackles to Ferres one each week but never seen a red before? Wont hold my breath for red card next time see one either unless its a Giants player getting red. Likes to send ours off old Phillip, games corrupt and has been for years, so called big 4 happy and try keep it brushed under the carpet while the game loses fans from all the other clubs in droves. Wont be wasting my brass next season either. Good Night, God Bless

Ferres cost the Giants the game.

They'll miss him and Brough for the next few weeks.

Plenty of cover for ferres, I'm not concerned there. What gets me is the saints fans who claim that because brough missed three he deserved to not be given the fourth


If the boot was on the other foot and you had just been denied in those circumstances would the saints players coach and fans have responded differently? No loving chance.

This.

Broughs execution was very poor for a player of his quality.

His first attempts were remarkably shallow and when he finally twigged he needed to be deeper he got a lot closer.

Tough game and a nailbiter to the end.

BENTHAM was in the right position for the drop goal call! sadly fellas he got it right! Nothing to do with it being you or any other team! Bloke on the pitch called it as he saw it.

To be fair he's not found his form at all this season and his kicking game has gone south at a rapid rate. Turning his and the teams form is critical but in truth we need to really sort out the amount of penalties we are giving away as that is crippling us and if we carry on doing that we will get nowhere this season. I also feel him constantly mouthing off in the referees faces is not helping us get the 50/50 calls and he needs to concentrate on leading the team constructively than acting like the spoilt brat that is coming to the fore far too often.

Just my twopenneth as a neutral and Cas fan.

Ferres deserved to be sent off, no problem with that call.

Can't believe Bentham did not give Brough's drop goal or at least go to the video ref to check.

Bentham is an absolute disgrace and needs to be dropped with immediate effect from all professional rugby matches. He is the most arrogant referee in the game and every match needs to made into the Phil Bentham show, we always end up talking about him rather than the game, and he has robbed you of progressing into the next round.

Maybe referees should be up before the RFL after a display like that. He certainly seems to have it in for Huddersfield!

I still think the same after watching the replay of the game.

But that doesn't explain why he didn't go to the screen like other decisions during the game. I mean he gave a drop out to Hudds in the first half then decided to go to the screen to check it, that was hardly a match deciding moment was it. But when it was a match deciding moment he decided to just give it as he saw it. That's everybody's beef.

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing ?



Giants were still robbed.

It happens to every team though. You can't say any team in particular is favoured, all the refs are equally as bad!