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| must admit i was gutted last night as other posters have said wigan deserved the win, but the seasons not over yet, i for one thought we looked under cooked from not playing last week, even though thought that was the right move at the time.
I do think the 6 props v 3 was a big factor in the game wigans pack dominated ours, overall i dont think we played that badly just wigan were better, we need to turn round like wigan did after leeds game last week, which im confident we can.
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| Quote ="goodie"must admit i was gutted last night as other posters have said wigan deserved the win, but the seasons not over yet, i for one thought we looked under cooked from not playing last week, even though thought that was the right move at the time.
I do think the 6 props v 3 was a big factor in the game wigans pack dominated ours, overall i dont think we played that badly just wigan were better, we need to turn round like wigan did after leeds game last week, which im confident we can.'"
I will second that! The players competed and know they have to step up a gear to win! Wigans defence was awesome, the way we played would have put many to the sword but Wigan were simply too good on the nught
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| Quote ="brearley84"considering faiumu isnt a prop when he has played there he has been one of the best! been in great form this season and a top performer in the latter half'"
He has when coming on against tired packs in games which we have been able to dominate the opposition, or in good weather when we have been able to utilise our backs more.
In a straight up fight in the middle he is not a prop.
He is one of our top earners and his salary would cover two craig Kopczaks. I know what i would have preferred last night and having two koppys on the bench would have been better IMHO
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| So incredibly deflated this morning. We can't blame the ref or the weather for this one, just beaten by the better team on the day.
However, I'm gradually consoling myself with thoughts that every time we've been beaten this season (ignoring the Bradford game last week for obvious reasons), we've come back stronger. With a home game against the lowest ranked side next week there's no reason we shouldn't be confident and still look to getting to the Grand Final.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"He has when coming on against tired packs in games which we have been able to dominate the opposition, or in good weather when we have been able to utilise our backs more.
In a straight up fight in the middle he is not a prop.
He is one of our top earners and his salary would cover two craig Kopczaks. I know what i would have preferred last night and having two koppys on the bench would have been better IMHO'"
We could certainly do with a replacement for Fielden, but there are not too many Koppys or Fieldens about, who is there available?
Will Mullally show a big step forward? Can Josh Johnson play 10-15 matches next season? With Wakey in meltdown would there be value in getting Andy Raleigh back for a season? I don't know, I am sure Paul Anderson has a plan and have confidence it will be a good plan but we do absolutely need to improve our front row options.
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| It was a very simple game, blaming anything but your own performance is classless. Wigan's defence is excellent, their attack virtually always the same, but performed (yesterday at least) swiftly & clinically, & always threatening. Hudds attack had no fluidity or organisation when you tried to spread it. It reminded me of Bradford under Noble.
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| Wigan were the better team and deserved to win on the night end of. They won the night and a right to have a week off, they haven't won anything other than that at this point.
We have to lick our wounds and prepare for Thursday, do what we have been doing all season and we will make the semi's, this is when it really starts, it's eliminations rounds all the way.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"He has when coming on against tired packs in games which we have been able to dominate the opposition, or in good weather when we have been able to utilise our backs more.
In a straight up fight in the middle he is not a prop.
He is one of our top earners and his salary would cover two craig Kopczaks. I know what i would have preferred last night and having two koppys on the bench would have been better IMHO'"
im glad you agree he has been one of the best.
i wasnt talking about what money he is on.
the bench was lastnight was wrong on this occasion, lawrence should not of been on it. He should of done 80mins tackling like he has been doing most of the season.
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| Quote ="GiantDee"We could certainly do with a replacement for Fielden, but there are not too many Koppys or Fieldens about, who is there available?
Will Mullally show a big step forward? Can Josh Johnson play 10-15 matches next season? With Wakey in meltdown would there be value in getting Andy Raleigh back for a season? I don't know, I am sure Paul Anderson has a plan and have confidence it will be a good plan but we do absolutely need to improve our front row options.'"
Hope I'm wrong but neither Mullally and Johnson make me think they will do much next season and certainly might not still be in SL in 4 or 5 years time but we shall see.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Of course they were the best team i haven't even tried to deny that, my point was they came with a tactic designed to negate the way we play, it did, which meant we had to play differently which we couldn't hence we lost the game cos of this.'"
Spot on.
In fact how many times did Tomkins slyly kick the ball away to gain time, instead of us getting on with the job. The officials should have penalised him a few times but chose to ignore it.
Not complaining too much as we were second best, after a good 20 minutes, and apart from the above mentioned errors, I thought Benson refereed quite well.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Of course they were the best team i haven't even tried to deny that, my point was they came with a tactic designed to negate the way we play, it did, which meant we had to play differently which we couldn't hence we lost the game cos of this.'"
Absolutely right Daz, way to beat the Giants is spoil, Wire did it in Cup, Wigan did it last night, the ref (ironically same man on both occasions) seems to like a slow snail pace of a game.
We were nullified out wide, Ferres was marked out of the game and Wardle hardly touched the ball due to this.
We always struggle against teams that push the boundaries, not sure I saw Wigan onside much last night, but where Was the little chip over, Tomkins was 30-40 yard behind defensive line who were shooting up.
Chip over and even if dont get the ball I guarantee the defensive line won't be as eager to dash up, we tried it with 6 mins left!! Our kicks were shocking and mostly down the throat of Richards or Charnley and the chase was that bad they ran the ball back to where it would have been with a chip over, we wouldn't have lost owt by trying it.
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| 4,970 at Hull and they say we've got crap support!!!!!
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| that hull crowd will be justified though.
it was a Friday night on sky, weather was poor, no away fans,it was in hull etc
its only us that get embarrassing crowds
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| Quote ="moggie"4,970 at Hull and they say we've got crap support!!!!!'"
is this on the VT??? would be in meltdown if it was at huddersfield!
it was an elimination game too
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"Hope I'm wrong but neither Mullally and Johnson make me think they will do much next season and certainly might not still be in SL in 4 or 5 years time but we shall see.'"
mulllally has been disappointing but think anderson sees him as a long term project... similar stature to crabtree and took eorl a while.
still prepared to give johnson time too... a highly rated youngster and not gone too bad when thrown in at SL level
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| You were outclassed and shown to be the team that you are.
An average team that ended up in first place after the regular rounds. A prize that none of the big teams gave a monkeys about, but you were suckered into believing was worth something.
Season over for you chaps.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"You were outclassed and shown to be the team that you are.
An average team that ended up in first place after the regular rounds. A prize that none of the big teams gave a monkeys about, but you were suckered into believing was worth something.
Season over for you chaps.'"
I think you'll find we have at least one more game. But don't let that get in the way of a good troll.
Now toddle off under your bridge until next week.
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| That's him finally on my ignore list ...shame others still have to put up with him !
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| Beer and the internet make BrettKenny go karayzeee...
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"You were outclassed and shown to be the team that you are.
An average team that ended up in first place after the regular rounds. A prize that none of the big teams gave a monkeys about, but you were suckered into believing was worth something.
Season over for you chaps.'"
What a ti-t do you honestly believe any amateur or pro player ever goes on a field to lose. Pride will not let you do it.
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"What a ti-t do you honestly believe any amateur or pro player ever goes on a field to lose. Pride will not let you do it.'"
No, but I do believe the level of effort and intensity that they put into a game varies massively.
btw aplogies to some of the more decent posters on here for the tone of my previous post- bit too much
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| As intensity goes we started well! Koppy and eorl were massive for us, but the Wigan pack gradually ground us down as we could not match with size! We had opportunities to score and pressure but on the day we couldn't take them! Danny had an off day with his kicking at least in the second half and the pack was beaten on the day! No stress and certainly not a compitulation as we have seen before
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"You were outclassed and shown to be the team that you are.
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Season over for you chaps.'"
Too bored to respond any more. I've blocked this guy too.
His opinion is immaterial.
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| Quote ="adamhuddsgiant"As intensity goes we started well! Koppy and eorl were massive for us, but the Wigan pack gradually ground us down as we could not match with size! We had opportunities to score and pressure but on the day we couldn't take them! Danny had an off day with his kicking at least in the second half and the pack was beaten on the day! No stress and certainly not a compitulation as we have seen before'"
yep but we could see that from the stands that we were getting hammered, when the charnley 2nd try went in i just thought to myself it has been coming! with those repeated drop out too... but nothing was done about it to stem the flow which was frustrating to see.. should of had lunt and crabtree on far earlier.
hope we get it right this thursday.. taai , faiumu, patrick and ferguson on the bench with lawrence starting.
taai at prop with patrick, faiumu changing with lunt when he needs a rest and fergy to get through some gaps!
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