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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"i couldn't believe it when i saw a guy walkin in the BR stand with one of those Kermit coloured scarfs on today ...with 2 pints and some food to take his seat to watch the Giants.......if they knew about that on DATM they would set up a campaign to hunt this traitor down...
just thought to myself ........does he actually know what he's wearing that scarf for ?'"
He'll have been threatened j( or just liked the colour as they do look comfy )ust like the pitch announcer last week questioning a town fan for not wearing a scarf! That was out of order!!!! Many wearing the Tshirt had no idea why they were wearing them!
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| If he was a town fan supporting this campaign i just thought it was a bit naive and hypocritical of him to spend a day putting money in Ken's pocket while wearing something to protest against the very same man !!!
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| I know you'll never see the queues on a Town match but seriously there's loads supposedly supporting this campaign for the return of the shares still buying their pies and pints at the matches!! Like I told you last week when the bars were shutting they even used the campaign to try and get the bar staff to sell them beer after they'd stopped selling beer! Saying I'm behind the boycott so sell me some beer! Doh!!!
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| even protesters have to eat and drink lol
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| the chant of theres only one ken davy at the end was good but met with one guy shouting some bile....and a few angry exchanges were had between him and giants fans as he was walking down the stairs after the chant
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| Was that him who was doing all that aggressive finger pointing & swearing at some Giants fans towards the end of the match on the Kilner Bank side? Then he stormed off down the steps? I wondered what all that was about...I actually assumed it was a disgruntled Widnes fan.
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| Quote ="fartownfan"Was that him who was doing all that aggressive finger pointing & swearing at some Giants fans towards the end of the match on the Kilner Bank side? Then he stormed off down the steps? I wondered what all that was about...I actually assumed it was a disgruntled Widnes fan.'"
Thats the guy, started by verbally abusing Ken Davy, then threatening all and sundry, the guy was clearly a bit on the thick side and to come to a Giants game dressed like that and to behave like that was clearly seeking confrontation.
Most of us will never know the ins and outs of dealings between KD & Dean Hoyle, but if you read DATM the orchestrators imply they have Hoyles support (though he must officially keep out of it). Well if that guy yesterday is the face of what DH is stoking up then Ken should have nothing to do with them. I believe though that guy was just an idiot who probably looks for trouble/confrontation in all aspects of life.
Personally I suspect that the ringleaders of this campaign do not have Dean Hoyles support, but neither will he outright condemn them, their bile is poison and Dean needs to make sure that hateful mob do not turn on him like they did to Ken, that will not do Town any good.
Most Town fans I know take the same view as most Giants fans - let Ken & Dean sort it out. That may not be a representative sample but it does really seem the best thing to do
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| well done dave on the letter and distancing himself from comments made by the mobsters in the examiner.
let it be known that whatever ken davy's faults ( he is human,he will have some) that we,at the giants will always hold the man in high regard, whether we agree or disagree that the issue between himself and HTFC/HTSA/dean hoyle or whoever else, for what he has done for OUR rugby club and sport in HUDDERSFIELD in general he will always be our messiah!!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"apparently Dave is a 'disgrace' for 'stirring up hatred' '"
Think I read something similar on here.....
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| Think what was said on here was more of a point to be seen to distance HGSA with them rather than a personal attack on you.
As people who know who will know you are definitely someone with Fartown's best interest's in mind.
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| They miss the point. ATEOTD the way they are going about things is not going to get them the shares back into HTFC. They go overboard on everything; they think they are more important than they are. They even complain about the time the Leyton Orient game got cancelled like they could do a better job. It's a reflection of the way things are going generally with the press etc. They interfere and escalate things where there is just no need to get involved at all. Why have a molehill when you can have a mountain and pontificate like you're the worlds expert on everything when in reality you know sweet FA about anything.
Had these guys kept their big, ill-informed beaks out and tried to basically bully and intimidate their way to get what they wanted it could have all have been over now. We'll never know for sure but what we do know is that Ken Davy doesn't like taking crap from neanderthal oiks with delusions of grandeur.
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| Quote ="Danril" They go overboard on everything; they think they are more important than they are. They even complain about the time the Leyton Orient game got cancelled like they could do a better job. '"
This really made me laugh when I read it in the paper today. They invented the world and everything in it, didn't they? Like the rest of the universe should sit cross-legged on the floor with fingers on lips whilst they lecture everyone on how things should be done.
Talk about absolutely no self-awareness at all.
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| Quote ="Danril"icon_lol.gif
Another insightful post from Billy Bullsh*t!
If you turn around you'll find South Korea. Amazing how much room there is up your a4se; North Korea, South Korea [iand[/i your head! You must get through some toilet roll.'"
Billy Bull?
In my 6 or so previous posts on here I posted nothing but facts that I CLEARLY stated could be backed up in the press and through official statements. I then said anyone wanting to challenge what I put should reply with facts and not some here say propaganda because your chairman can do no wrong in your eyes.
So it really is beyond me that you say bull when if you want to go back and quote my posts and challenge the bits you assume to be 'bull', I'll be able to back them up. Each one.
As I stated on DATM I really don't give a whether the Giants get on board or not, I can't see too much of a benefit to it. I posted where I was coming from and backed it up, the only legitimate response I got that somewhat answered the points I made was 'He rescued the club and legally took control of the shares, so he can do whatever he wants with them, and why shouldn't he?' Which is a fair enough response. Can't argue with that view.
End of the day you don't have any share in the stadium that was built for you either. It may be all cushty now but with the way things are going in sport there may well be a time when you're desperate for investment or to be saved and a sporting club with no share in the stadium they play in is far less an attractive prospect than one with (look ar Stockport County for an example)
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| Quote ="fartownfan"This really made me laugh when I read it in the paper today. They invented the world and everything in it, didn't they? Like the rest of the universe should sit cross-legged on the floor with fingers on lips whilst they lecture everyone on how things should be done.
Talk about absolutely no self-awareness at all.'"
Actually it was more to do with the fact that they could have carried out a pitch inspection the day before which would have saved our fans the 190+ mile journey which turned out to be made in vain when they decided to call it off on the day of the game, when many were already on their way.
It's thinking ahead, it's a recession, it's considerate.
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| Quote ="Smithfield Building"Actually it was more to do with the fact that they could have carried out a pitch inspection the day before which would have saved our fans the 190+ mile journey which turned out to be made in vain when they decided to call it off on the day of the game, when many were already on their way.
It's thinking ahead, it's a recession, it's considerate.'"
They did a pitch inspection the day before, it was playable. Alas the world carried on turning after that and the situation changed. Weather changes, recession or not.
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| Quote ="Smithfield Building"Actually it was more to do with the fact that they could have carried out a pitch inspection the day before which would have saved our fans the 190+ mile journey which turned out to be made in vain when they decided to call it off on the day of the game, when many were already on their way.
It's thinking ahead, it's a recession, it's considerate.'"
Think you need to have a look at some other sports this weekend! Hull FC fans spending hundreds to go to the south of france and even though the ref was confident it would go ahead the night before it was postponed only hours before ko, Stade de France tell those 10000 Irish fans again spending a lot of money who come from a worst hit financial country than ours and their match being postponed only minutes prior!!! And what about those Middleborough fans travelling down to Ipswich and only getting to see 37 mins of the game!! Think you need to look at the wider picture!!
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| Yeah the wider picture being the said authorities need to treat supporters with a bit more respect in consideration instead of the TV £'sssssss sign.
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| Quote ="Smithfield Building"Billy Bull?
In my 6 or so previous posts on here I posted nothing but facts that I CLEARLY stated could be backed up in the press and through official statements. I then said anyone wanting to challenge what I put should reply with facts and not some here say propaganda because your chairman can do no wrong in your eyes.
So it really is beyond me that you say bull when if you want to go back and quote my posts and challenge the bits you assume to be 'bull', I'll be able to back them up. Each one.
As I stated on DATM I really don't give a love whether the Giants get on board or not, I can't see too much of a benefit to it. I posted where I was coming from and backed it up, the only legitimate response I got that somewhat answered the points I made was 'He rescued the club and legally took control of the shares, so he can do whatever he wants with them, and why shouldn't he?' Which is a fair enough response. Can't argue with that view.
End of the day you don't have any share in the stadium that was built for you either. It may be all cushty now but with the way things are going in sport there may well be a time when you're desperate for investment or to be saved and a sporting club with no share in the stadium they play in is far less an attractive prospect than one with (look ar Stockport County for an example)'"
Well for a start the shares were transferred for a quid. But hey, the t-shirts had been printed by the time you sussed that one out eh!
Quote ="Billy"This isn't about business or legality or denying that Ken saved our club from the brink of collapse (however reluctantly or with what motives) this is about morals and ethics. That ground was built for our clubs, and for our clubs to have a share in so that we could both prosper from it. These are sports clubs that our grandfathers watched and hopefully grandchildren will watch. Our 40% share which is rightfully ours should be returned so that we can benefit from the revenue it produces. We pay 75% of the rent for it!'"
Morals and ethics? If the man has, by your own apparent admission here, done nothing legally wrong then this isn't morals and ethics. It's BUSINESS and you're not going to get a better deal by pathetic attempts at intimidation.
You haven't actually made any solid claims at all. You've just stated KD is evil and it's all in the public domain. There is nothing to disprove because you've essentially said nothing noteworthy that is up for debate. It's all piffle, every word. If the cap fits Billy boy.
And this North Korea referencing; why not just go the whole hog and admit defeat by doing the traditional internet whine and reference Hitler instead. It's the go-to post when you've lost the argument!
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| Quote ="Smithfield Building"Yeah the wider picture being the said authorities need to treat supporters with a bit more respect in consideration instead of the TV £'sssssss sign.'"
Translation: we think we're more important than the game.
The pitch was inspected Friday and was playable. It was inspected early Saturday morning and deemed unplayable. It is unfortunate but it is life. But it seems some people think their lives are worth more than others.
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| Quote ="Danril"Morals and ethics? If the man has, by your own apparent admission here, done nothing legally wrong then this isn't morals and ethics.'"
If you're suggesting that if something is legal then it can't be morally or ethically wrong then we're done here. You're wasting my time.
Lost what argument....you haven't made a point? You can't just say 'you lost the argument'. Don't be a moron.
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| I don't recall the Leyton Orient game scheduled for tv!!
It's a risk you take tbh afterall it is winter!
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| Some of these guys are obviously not stupid people but the red mist has descended. Being a loyal supporter and having the courage of your convictions are both commendable virtues when not taken to such extremes. It's not about the shares any more; it's a peeing contest. Play the player, not the game.
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| Quote ="Danril"Translation: we think we're more important than the game.
The pitch was inspected Friday and was playable. It was inspected early Saturday morning and deemed unplayable. It is unfortunate but it is life. But it seems some people think their lives are worth more than others.'"
Lives are worth more than who others? You're comparing people to a football and grass. This is the point I'm making.
Fans are more important than the game. At the end of the day the game is played for the fans. No one no where plays in a prospective sport with no one in attendance to watch.
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| Quote ="Smithfield Building"If you're suggesting that if something is legal then it can't be morally or ethically wrong then we're done here.'"
No my friend. He's suggesting that the bottom line is the legality of the situation and not the morality.
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You're wasting my time.
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Au contraire, old bean. It is you who is wasting your own time.
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