In answer to your question jo- in my eyes the governing body should help to fund the game at grassroots level- it’s they who need to figure out how to facilitate that-as far as I’m concerned that’s their job. It will be partly funded by SL clubs in some respects anyway. There are ways that clubs could be involved for minimal cost such as running training sessions/coaching etc- which they could VOLUNTEER TO DO. Just like the regular coaches/first Aiders/touchline managers etc do!
I know some of this goes on-but more could be done. So many young kids move on to Union, not because it’s a better game, but because the coaching and facilities are better.

Amazing how two of Chorley Jean's (Jean Capdouze) alter ego's find a thread on the Huddersfield board on the same day!! (Canoeman and Lebron James)

The gate has increased at pretty well every game that Toronto has played in the UK. This includes League 1 last year and Championship this year. Check out the numbers for yourself...they are factual. Your concerns about Toronto not bringing and putting fans into the seats over there is your own false misconception and any conclusions you draw from said false innuendo are not based in fact.
Check out the number for yourself if you don't believe me....you seem to have an unfounded inherent bias against Toronto which is not based in/on any fact but rather non-supported opinion...and a false one at that!

They will come to Canada eventually...they always do! Give us a bit of time...just look at what we have done in 1 1/2 years!!!!!!!!

It is certainly fair to say that in the entire history of Rugby League "No Club has ever come so far, in so short of a time, to the joy and disdain of so many!"

"Run With The Pack!"

I know you won't believe me but we are in the process of changing that over here...JUST WATCH US DO IT!!!!!!!

"Learn With The Pack!"

As I posted earlier....shake that head hard 20 times so your jowls flap....blub, blub. blub, blub.

Good...now get off the booze and start seeing things in a more clear light....have a shower and a pot of coffee....maybe some buttermilk to settle the stomach.

Hang in there....the false delusions will eventually just fade away like Leigh in the Championship!

I would welcome any side provided they meet the ESL criteria but as I stands the so called Canadian team is made up of overseas players ie Aussies,Brits etc very few if any Canucks.The whole idea of having rules is so each and every side plays under them no exceptions If The Wolfpack can meet the criteria theN I have no doubt most supporters will welcome Them.As it stand WP will have to get rid of quite a few players too comply with ESL rules.It could or may put a hole in your canoe Canoeman. One more point that works both ways travelling a day to get to Canada or UK a day to recover play the game . Then a high intensity game a day back a day rest leaves no time to prepare for the next game! Think about it most fans here have.

Don't get too hung up on the rules...rules change and some rules are made to be broken. I know this goes against the grain over there (rule compliant) but we (over here on the other side of the pond) are like a free range stallion that is in a corral....we are free! It seems the rules and benchmarks in the RFL are in a constant state of flux anyway....can you disagree?

Don't let that doomsday English attitude about the future of RL get you down...there are easy solutions. I have gotten holes in my canoe on numerous trips...ever hear of duct tape? Good as new I tell ya! Easy fix!

As far as the travel goes CDN/US football and hockey teams do it all the time over here...simply a question of proper scheduling and flexibility ...see....problem solved. RL needs a very large influx of Canadian 'Can-Do' attitude to move forward...TWP is the key to the future for RL...merely put the key in the lock, turn and push.

BINGO you are now in!!!!!! That wasn't so hard was it?

"Grow With The Pack!"

Well done Canoe man paddling away i n choppy waters

He does a lot of travelling, from Chorley, to Perpignan to Toronto!! All in the name of expansion (allegedly)

And rest...you need some rest to get away from the delusional visions.

I prefer to think of them as shimmering waters and it is a following sea none the less...what a beautiful paddle today!
P.S. And the fishing is good too!

I think most people over here want the game to take off over the Atlantic Canoeman, I certainly do , but one team travelling backwards and forwards thousands of miles hardly seems as though it's going to be the saviour of the sport somehow," despite your undoubted enthusiasm ".

It needs a league over there to start with and despite all your hype and boasting about what Canadians can do " which i know is just banter " You have as someone has already said done nothing that any other city could not have done with the same money, What you have in fact done is purchase a foreign team with your Billionaires money, play against the lesser sides in the league and then claim to be the only hope for Rugby League to survive.

IMO if some of that lovely money doesn't find it's way into the coffers of the ESL i doubt you will last two seasons, Had you been dealing with the RFL well anything could happen, but you will be dealing with men of a different ilk, who are not all your Flat cap wearing, whippet breading Pidgeon fanciers.

End of the day we just have to wait and see, but you have to appreciate we have seen saviours come and go before, Don't think we don't wish you well over there, but i think you need to think about expansion of your own.

Fair enough and you just might be right...but I just might be right and this just might be the time. I believe that in three years time from today the picture will be alot clearer...either one way or another. I believe in the future, in the TWP and in our owner...I have not been given any factual evidence to think otherwise...nothing whatsoever.

Well another 64pts for the magnificent Pack against 16 men one of whom had come out of retirement to help,all of whom are part time and a team that was nothing like full strength and after a transatlantic flight.

Mmmm there appears to be a pattern here !!

No shouting about this shambles by the RFL

As per my original post logic defying and the death knell of Rugby League if these cock eyed games are the future, time to admit this experiment ain’t working for the game if this team was anywhere else in the UK expanding the game yes but in Canada get SERIOUS !!

The title of the thread is Toronto Wolfpack Defies Logic....and it is true. We are not going anywhere; we are here to stay and everyone is running scared because we all know what happens to teams that play us! We are winning all of your plates and trophies and league titles (100% success rate so far).

You can come up with false excuses why you should never play us etc. etc. but your time to approach the chopping block will come...your day of reckoning will soon be upon you! No amount of squirming will allow you to avoid your date with destiny....your appointment with the Big Bad Wolf!

"Hunt With The Pack!"

Love it , We will hold ourselves in readiness, all the best.

It’s in yer head fella...

Warrington 66-10 Toronto, Rugby League Challenge Cup 2018

Unless you talk, read or write in Japanese (the wrong way around) it appears that your 100% of plates and trophies isn’t quite right.





If Warrington were running scared god help you/TW if they had fancied the job !!

Hey this isn't a dig at your club.

At least 10 Super League clubs think like Neil Hudgell it's simply his turn to leak a bit of info.

Responsibility for local grassroots development was given to the clubs a few years ago (about 2014 if memory serves). It’s up to the SL club to get involved and develop its own area with coaching sessions/school visits/coach education/coaching courses etc. If the RFL were to do this then each club would have to have reduced central funding to do this. That’s why at the last TV deal there was a decent figure given directly by Sky to each clubs’ Foundation.

All of that happens school visits, coach sessions etc but it’s all pretty meaningless if the basics aren’t in place and the club itself doesn’t exist- or are you saying SL clubs should set up amateur clubs now? Oh and crucially -something there currently isn’t- safeguarding and coaching courses- which have to be provided for clubs to exist.

Yes. The SL clubs are in charge of amateur development in their area. They take the central funding that would otherwise need to be spent on it.

It’s a choice for the clubs. Either do the development or give the money back.

The clubs do their bit- IMO The RFL do not.

OR, as in the case of Toronto...do the development and pay for it totally yourselves since we give you no central funding whatsoever, like we do to everyone else......

Answer: Not a problem, we in Toronto will do it anyways because its good for the game....no money issues on this end....stuff is growing on the trees over here. Lots of dough, money EVERYWHERE!